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top post again - ah well....I cant imagine nige being diplomatic about
anything, seems he has a chip on his shoulder about something. perhaps if he
was polite i might take notice!
(two more less readers now!)



"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:10:32 +0100, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Richard wrote:
>>> what i meant was the esso is a few hundred yards away but all the
>>> others are within 2 miles. the furthest is the bp which i use to fill
>>> up with lpg :)
>>
>>
>>Look cock, your posts are ****ing annoying as **** with your retarded top
>>posting. Wil you please stop
>>doing it or you're in the killfile.
>
> pithy and to the point, but hardly all that diplomatic.
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "It is a characteristic of the human mind to hate the man one has injured"
> Tacitus (c.55 - c.117) Agricola, 45


 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:10:32 +0100, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Richard wrote:
>>> what i meant was the esso is a few hundred yards away but all the
>>> others are within 2 miles. the furthest is the bp which i use to fill
>>> up with lpg :)
>>
>>
>>Look cock, your posts are ****ing annoying as **** with your retarded top
>>posting. Wil you please stop
>>doing it or you're in the killfile.
>
> pithy and to the point, but hardly all that diplomatic.

I cant imagine nige being diplomatic about
anything, seems he has a chip on his shoulder about something. perhaps if he
was polite i might take notice!


> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "It is a characteristic of the human mind to hate the man one has injured"
> Tacitus (c.55 - c.117) Agricola, 45


 
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> On or around Wed, 14 Sep 2005 08:25:25 GMT, Jeremy Mortimer
> <[email protected]_this.org> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote in
>>news:m65ei117ojf0jj9in0bqc3qmokbf34lr9u@ 4ax.com:
>>
>>> Let's scrap road tax and fuel tax entirely and have a proper road
>>> tolling scheme based on fairness and environmental damage.
>>
>>I realise you were making some other points (and perhaps a bit tongue
>>in cheek too) but it's worth noting that in principle fuel tax is not
>>a bad way to account for environmental damage.
>
> apart from being completely indiscriminate... and charging the chap
> who does useful work exactly the same as the bloke who uses the same
> amount of fuel cruising around town all evening with his foglights on
> and thumpy-thumpy stereo, and the same amount as those who use their
> car to go shopping 'cos there's no other credible way of doing it.

Environmental damage is also indiscriminate - the worthy uses of fuel are
as damaging as the less worthy uses. Usefully, the amount of fuel used is
probably close to proportional to the damage caused.

And, of course, fuel taxation is not indiscriminate even now; farmers get a
discount with red diesel, and airlines pay no fuel tax at all. Perhaps it
would be better if it were indiscriminate.

I only bring this up in relation to accounting for environmental damage,
though, and specifically as a counter to the proposal by the OP of road
charges for the same purpose. Road charges don't account for damage caused
by using petroleum fuels for domestic heating, air travel, off-road use
(including farming work), driving a 4.2 litre Jag rather a Fiat Uno, etc.

Jeremy
 
Richard Brookman wrote:

> You'll be having one of those hoax virus scare mailings soon. She'll learn
> in a year or two.

Nah, I'd put money on it being one of the "e-mail tracking share the
Microsoft/Gates/Disney/HP/Intel millions" type things !

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Richard wrote:
> "Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On or around Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:10:32 +0100, "Nige"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>> Richard wrote:
>>>> what i meant was the esso is a few hundred yards away but all the
>>>> others are within 2 miles. the furthest is the bp which i use to
>>>> fill up with lpg :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Look cock, your posts are ****ing annoying as **** with your
>>> retarded top posting. Wil you please stop
>>> doing it or you're in the killfile.
>>
>> pithy and to the point, but hardly all that diplomatic.
>
> I cant imagine nige being diplomatic about
> anything, seems he has a chip on his shoulder about something.
> perhaps if he was polite i might take notice!

At last, I can read your post.
--
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'"Say hello to my little friend"


 

"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Richard wrote:
>> "Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> On or around Tue, 13 Sep 2005 22:10:32 +0100, "Nige"
>>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>>
>>>> Richard wrote:
>>>>> what i meant was the esso is a few hundred yards away but all the
>>>>> others are within 2 miles. the furthest is the bp which i use to
>>>>> fill up with lpg :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look cock, your posts are ****ing annoying as **** with your
>>>> retarded top posting. Wil you please stop
>>>> doing it or you're in the killfile.
>>>
>>> pithy and to the point, but hardly all that diplomatic.
>>
>> I cant imagine nige being diplomatic about
>> anything, seems he has a chip on his shoulder about something.
>> perhaps if he was polite i might take notice!
>
> At last, I can read your post.

make the most of it then!!!


 

"Jeremy Mortimer" .
>
> And, of course, fuel taxation is not indiscriminate even now; farmers get
> a
> discount with red diesel, and airlines pay no fuel tax at all. Perhaps it
> would be better if it were indiscriminate.
>

And of course home heating oil is discounted and scarcely policed for
emissions at all.

Huw


 
On or around Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:18:56 +0100, "Huw"
<hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>
>"Jeremy Mortimer" .
>>
>> And, of course, fuel taxation is not indiscriminate even now; farmers get
>> a
>> discount with red diesel, and airlines pay no fuel tax at all. Perhaps it
>> would be better if it were indiscriminate.
>>
>
>And of course home heating oil is discounted and scarcely policed for
>emissions at all.

but has 5% vat on it. Why, I have no idea, unless it's simply to raise
money from them as can ill afford it.
--
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"Quos deus vult perdere, prius dementat" Euripedes, quoted in
Boswell's "Johnson".
 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Fri, 16 Sep 2005 12:18:56 +0100, "Huw"
> <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>"Jeremy Mortimer" .
>>>
>>> And, of course, fuel taxation is not indiscriminate even now; farmers
>>> get
>>> a
>>> discount with red diesel, and airlines pay no fuel tax at all. Perhaps
>>> it
>>> would be better if it were indiscriminate.
>>>
>>
>>And of course home heating oil is discounted and scarcely policed for
>>emissions at all.
>
> but has 5% vat on it. Why, I have no idea, unless it's simply to raise
> money from them as can ill afford it.

You are looking at it from the wrong angle. Most other stuff has 17.5% VAT
so the 12.5% less on heating oil is effectively a subsidy, or so I am told
when the subject of red diesel comes up. Of course, red diesel is actually
subject to 17.5% VAT when delivered in bulk.
Of course, this does not alter the facts as I stated above about pollution
and rather undermines the argument for taxes based on pollution where
vehicles are concerned because no such tax is levied on scarcely policed
home heating. Politics and making money to keep boys in jobs, that is what
it is about.

Huw



 
Ric Norris wrote:
> There are more important things in life than grumbling about top
> posting/bottom-posting. You're lucky you have a computer....just think of
> all the poor & miserable in the world that haven't even seen one.....!!!!
>
> The reason why yours are bottom-posted is because you live in the northern
> hemisphere....the reason why mine are top-posted is because I live in the
> southern hemisphere.
>
> Same principles apply when water washes down the bath drain.....yours goes
> anti-clockwise & ours goes clockwise. Or is that the other way around.....I
> don't remember. Anyway, the bottom line is yer ferkin' bath water doesn't
> flood yer house.....!!!!
>
> It's all very simple & logical really.
>
> Ric Norris.
> Brisbane. Australia.
> http://users.bigpond.net.au/cavedrawings

Typical fscking ocker. Ignore etiquette totally and then try and make
themselves out to be a special case. There's a simple answer to that -
into the special killfile.


--
EMB
 
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