Freelander 2 (LR2) PAS Hose Hex bolt removal

Oscar7 · Jun 18, 2023

Hi, looking for some help, please. I am replacing the high pressure PAS hose and and can't remove the hex bolt from PAS pump due to it being rounded (photo attached). Have tried to get a chisel into it, but no luck.
The space is very tight, so options seem limited on what you can do and I don't want to experiment and make things worse.
Anyone els solved this problem, can you weld or glue a nut or a hex key to it, could I cut the pipe need the bold to get better access?
Any advise is welcome, cheers.

Nodge68 · Jun 18, 2023

Generally they undo easily. I normally use my air chisel on the side of offending fixings when they won't budge. Try giving the bolt a clout with a hammer, although space in that area is really restricted by the AC pipes. A clout on the bold head, will normally displace a tiny amount of material from under the bolt head, reducing the clamping bond, allowing it to turn more easily. You don't have to worry about damage to the hose, if you're replacing it anyway.

Oscar7 · Jun 18, 2023

Nodge68 said:
Generally they undo easily. I normally use my air chisel on the side of offending fixings when they won't budge. Try giving the bolt a clout with a hammer, although space in that area is really restricted by the AC pipes. A clout on the bold head, will normally displace a tiny amount of material from under the bolt head, reducing the clamping bond, allowing it to turn more easily. You don't have to worry about damage to the hose, if you're replacing it anyway.

Thanks Nodge68, I'll persevere and if still no luck will try gluing a hex bit onto it. Will update on how I'm getting on. cheers.

Arctic2 · Jun 19, 2023

Hi Oscar.
You could try tapping in an Allen key bit if the torx bit has rounded off.

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personally i would grind the edge off the pipe hose, an hacksaw may do it, or little Dremel tool.

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Once it exposes the bolt, you could then use what i think no home mechanic should be without is a set of Irwins removal tools.

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good luck.

my trouble was the opposite of of the job.

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Oscar7 · Jun 19, 2023

Thanks Arctic2, couldn't get an allen key to stay in and glue didn't bond, so will try grinding it down tomorrow. Had problem with the other bolt also, but managed to cut and chisel that off.

Nodge68 · Jun 20, 2023

Oscar7 said:
Thanks Arctic2, couldn't get an allen key to stay in and glue didn't bond, so will try grinding it down tomorrow. Had problem with the other bolt also, but managed to cut and chisel that off.

Are you using the correct bit to fit the bolt? It's a Torx not a Hex. A Hex will fit, but won't hold as it's not the same profile.

Oscar7 · Jun 21, 2023

Yes, was initially using torx. Now started the grinding and will finish tomorrow.

Oscar7 · Jun 22, 2023

Now finished, bolt was tight, but eventually managed it by grinding, using a cutter to make a groove in bolt, then long screw drover and heavy hammer to get off. Hope putting the new bits on is not half as challenging; any tips of things to look out for?

Nodge68 · Jun 23, 2023

Oscar7 said:
Now finished, bolt was tight, but eventually managed it by grinding, using a cutter to make a groove in bolt, then long screw drover and heavy hammer to get off. Hope putting the new bits on is not half as challenging; any tips of things to look out for?

Getting the connection to the sold pipe at the rack apart is a challenge. If you don't want a fight, replace the metal pipes too.

Oscar7 · Jun 23, 2023

Hi Nodge68, are these the pipes you are talking about?

Nodge68 · Jun 23, 2023

Oscar7 said:
Hi Nodge68, are these the pipes you are talking about?

Yes. They are a challenge themselves to replace, but they rust for a past time, and make sense to replace when doing the flexy hose.

Oscar7 · Jun 23, 2023

Hi Nodge68, thanks for the advise, I have these parts so will replace also. Anything to consider when I do put it all back together?

Nodge68 · Jun 23, 2023

Oscar7 said:
Hi Nodge68, thanks for the advise, I have these parts so will replace also. Anything to consider when I do put it all back together?

Make sure you paint the metal pipes after installation, cleaning them with brake cleaner first.
Also only use the correct green PS fluid, not red or clear, as these incorrect fluids aren't compatible with the hydraulic seals in the system. I use Mannol CHF, which is the correct colour.

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It's also sensible to replace the reservoir, as the fine filter in there clogs, causing the pump to fail.

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Also don't start the engine until you've filled the reservoir, then turned the steering from lock to lock 4 times, then check the level again, topping up if needed.

If the engine is started before purging the air in the system, it takes hours of running for it to flush out.

Oscar7 · Jun 23, 2023

Nodge68 said:
Make sure you paint the metal pipes after installation, cleaning them with brake cleaner first.
Also only use the correct green PS fluid, not red or clear, as these incorrect fluids aren't compatible with the hydraulic seals in the system. I use Mannol CHF, which is the correct colour.

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It's also sensible to replace the reservoir, as the fine filter in there clogs, causing the pump to fail.

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Also don't start the engine until you've filled the reservoir, then turned the steering from lock to lock 4 times, then check the level again, topping up if needed.

If the engine is started before purging the air in the system, it takes hours of running for it to flush out.

Thanks for the tips, I will order the reservoir and hopefully up and running in the next few days.

Oscar7 · Jun 24, 2023

Oscar7 said:
Thanks for the tips, I will order the reservoir and hopefully up and running in the next few days.

Nearly there with connecting all the new pipes, but the pipe into the steering rack doesn't line up with the pipes from top of car even though the fitting to the steering rack seems to be OK. Have I missed something, am I just being stupid?

Oscar7 · Jun 24, 2023

Oscar7 · Jun 26, 2023

Hi, this doesn't look right (took other pipe off to show a clearer picture), but is positioned in steering rack correctly. I would expect pipe to be straight up or leaning towards front, but is lining up with steering column. Any help appreciated as beginning to question my sanity.

Nodge68 · Jun 27, 2023

Oscar7 said:
Hi, this doesn't look right (took other pipe off to show a clearer picture), but is positioned in steering rack correctly. I would expect pipe to be straight up or leaning towards front, but is lining up with steering column. Any help appreciated as beginning to question my sanity.

It looks bent wrong.
The pipes do stick straight up if not bent incorrectly. Are the pipes OE or aftermarket?

Oscar7 · Jun 27, 2023

Thanks Nodge68, look like I haven't lost my sanity. They are aftermarket. Do you have a recommended site and I will order a new set.

Nodge68 · Jun 27, 2023

Oscar7 said:
Thanks Nodge68, look like I haven't lost my sanity. They are aftermarket. Do you have a recommended site and I will order a new set.

I got mine from Ebay, but from an LR supplier, who sells genuine parts.
I initially bought a cheap kit, but the hose never sealed properly, so I ripped it all out and bought an OE kit instead. The genuine kit fitted perfectly, and didn't leak. Unfortunately it's now out of stock.

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