p38 roll pins location help

i have a P38 range rover dse clutch was slipping so put a new one in an then blew slave cylinder after replacein it got told the roll pins are gone bang so order them just dont no where they go so if any one nos would be a great help an would be great full if u had a pic tanks in advance jay

jay11 said:

i have a P38 range rover dse clutch was slipping so put a new one in an then blew slave cylinder after replacein it got told the roll pins are gone bang so order them just dont no where they go so if any one nos would be a great help an would be great full if u had a pic tanks in advance jay

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They lock release bearing fork to shaft unfortunatly. Happy days. Moral is. ALWAYS change roll pins when changing a clutch.

took box of today an droped her down the pins lk ok in the fork but i dont no wat there spost to look like are they even or sank a small bit in as the fork does nt move of the arm the arm slides up an down with a bit of elbow greese

jay11 said:

took box of today an droped her down the pins lk ok in the fork but i dont no wat there spost to look like are they even or sank a small bit in as the fork does nt move of the arm the arm slides up an down with a bit of elbow greese

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They are supposed to go all the way through without being sheared off in the shaft.

this might sound stupid the new ones are here tomrrow do they stick out of the fork a small bit to stop it movein to far as this is wat happend to the slave cylinder iv never replaced them before tanks jay

jay11 said:

this might sound stupid the new ones are here tomrrow do they stick out of the fork a small bit to stop it movein to far as this is wat happend to the slave cylinder iv never replaced them before tanks jay

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There are holes in the shaft and holes in the fork. These must be lined up and the roll pins driven in to lock fork to shaft. If fork has moved on shaft you will have to remove it from shaft to drive old pins out with a good pin punch.

well pins out today one had snaped an the other started to crack an wear would this cause the slave cylinder to go as they were both in the right location throw the holes in the shaft i dont wana put the box on if there could be another problem tanks

jay11 said:

well pins out today one had snaped an the other started to crack an wear would this cause the slave cylinder to go as they were both in the right location throw the holes in the shaft i dont wana put the box on if there could be another problem tanks

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Have never done one of these but looking at manuals it would seem you can check clutch for function without having gearbox in place.

Remember the clutch fork PULLS the Thrust Bearing towards the gearbox, so the fork has to be positioned in between the Thrust Bearing and Pressure Plate when refitting the gearbox.

Most vehicle are fitted with a push clutch not a pull clutch so the fork position when re-fitting the gearbox is very important...

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so does that mean the fork sits into the bearing or infront or behind the hole thing tanks an as the slave failed will that mean i need to replace that again

jay11 said:

so does that mean the fork sits into the bearing or infront or behind the hole thing tanks an as the slave failed will that mean i need to replace that again

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The fork sits in the groove between the pressure fingers and the flange on the back of the release bearing. IT DOES NOT sit behind the flange it sits in front of it.

sorry man dont have a clue wat that means i have it sat in the middle of the blackplate bit an behind the silver thing that looks like a straner tanks for the advice as its startin to p..s me of

Hi,you can test clutch without gearbox in place,but if you do use a clutch alignment tool or clutch plate will drop making it harder to put gearbox back in.