p38 4.6 lpg do i or dont i??

martynv8 said:

+1
Agree 100% with that.
Go to a backstreet garage / unregistered mobile installer & take your chance. Sooner or later you will be approaching a recognized & reputable installer to sort out your problems. Would you have a similar mentality with having gas fired heating installed in your home....i think not.
PS. The components cost alone in my Tartarini sequential system with dreamxxxl injectors would exceed £1000

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Dream xx1 injectors cost 25GBP per side ...http://www.phjacus.pl/REG-OMVL-DREAM-c159.html

Yaro said:

ukadamwest,
sorry if you take it personally, I talk about lpg in general, not about your RR, from your photo its look nice and clean. Im talking about lpg instalations with I see on the street with rust aroun lpg filer driled somewere on the body panel. Sometimes I see Mecedes S classe worth 20k with rust bubles around filer..hmm

JACU? LPG - sklep internetowy LPG, cz??ci LPG, auto gaz, hurtownia lpg, cz??ci do instalacji gazowych, cz??ci lpg, akcesoria lpg,

You can find EU prices for lpg parts 100zl = 20GBP

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Merc's are renowned for being rust buckets.

martynv8 said:

Merc's are renowned for being rust buckets.

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well yes its a shame for merc ..

Yaro said:

ukadamwest,
sorry if you take it personally, I talk about lpg in general, not about your RR, from your photo its look nice and clean. Im talking about lpg instalations with I see on the street with rust aroun lpg filer driled somewere on the body panel. Sometimes I see Mecedes S classe worth 20k with rust bubles around filer..hmm

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Oh don't worry Yaro, i'm not taking it personally (at least after i've had morning caffiene anyway) debate is always good.

The mercedes especially from the mid 90's are very bad for rust, i got lucky with my CLK and got one without tin worm thrown in for the price, but many have from that era have the wheel arches falling out. When GM took over Mercedes the Quality went south.

Any hole in body work from an LPG filler to an antenna should not be left untreated otherwise, yes you are correct it will corrode. I think that is something that separates a quality job.

I do take your point that yes it can be done for cheaper in the EU, many things can, however the converse to that is that i dont speak the local language, would have to add in the cost of a round trip to, say Poland, not have the warranty or support from a local (ish) installer, nor would have the paperwork in order to satisfy the DVLA or insurance company.

Most installers in the UK wont warranty or certify someone else's work and if they did i would be very dubious of their integrity.

An LPG installation should be an investment into the vehicle and without the verification of the install and the correct paperwork (for the UK) it's really just money thrown away.

Like i said the upshot is Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware)

ukadamwest said:

Oh don't worry Yaro, i'm not taking it personally (at least after i've had morning caffiene anyway) debate is always good.

The mercedes especially from the mid 90's are very bad for rust, i got lucky with my CLK and got one without tin worm thrown in for the price, but many have from that era have the wheel arches falling out. When GM took over Mercedes the Quality went south.

Any hole in body work from an LPG filler to an antenna should not be left untreated otherwise, yes you are correct it will corrode. I think that is something that separates a quality job.

I do take your point that yes it can be done for cheaper in the EU, many things can, however the converse to that is that i dont speak the local language, would have to add in the cost of a round trip to, say Poland, not have the warranty or support from a local (ish) installer, nor would have the paperwork in order to satisfy the DVLA or insurance company.

Most installers in the UK wont warranty or certify someone else's work and if they did i would be very dubious of their integrity.

An LPG installation should be an investment into the vehicle and without the verification of the install and the correct paperwork (for the UK) it's really just money thrown away.

Like i said the upshot is Caveat Emptor (Buyer Beware)

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GM did not take over Daimler Benz, they were in a joint venture with Chrysler now dissolved. Even the CEO of DB said that after the union they lost the plot and were producing crap. A friends large Merc estate rusted so badly that is was condemmed at 7 years old.

My wife has just collected her 12 month old Merc CLA & a rather large compensation cheque from the dealers. Been there since April
Suffice to say it will be the last merc in our household.

martynv8 said:

My wife has just collected her 12 month old Merc CLA & a rather large compensation cheque from the dealers. Been there since April
Suffice to say it will be the last merc in our household.

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Sounds just like my Porsche, it went to BCA while still under warranty as it was so unreliable. German engineering

GM did not take over Daimler Benz, they were in a joint venture with Chrysler now dissolved

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That was it !

Yes a lot of e class estates are rotten through! how to destroy a brand reputation in one short period !

Datatek said:

Sounds just like my Porsche, it went to BCA while still under warranty as it was so unreliable. German engineering

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Before the Mercs my wife had a Porsche....that ended in the engine eating it'self on the A1. Very common problem with intermediate shaft bearings it seems. That was an expensive fix - just out of warranty so the dealers didn't want to know.

martynv8 said:

Before the Mercs my wife had a Porsche....that ended in the engine eating it'self on the A1. Very common problem with intermediate shaft bearings it seems. That was an expensive fix - just out of warranty so the dealers didn't want to know.

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Mine broke the crank at 400 miles, gear box seized not long after, the list is too long to type A real heap of **** Porsche, by comparison the P38 is ultra reliable

Datatek said:

Mine broke the crank at 400 miles, gear box seized not long after, the list is too long to type A real heap of **** Porsche, by comparison the P38 is ultra reliable

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Ahah...my wife thinks so too now.

IMS bearing on the M96 engine ! 986, 996 and 987 yep i'm well aware of that joy. what porsche did you have Data ?

Yaro said:

Dream xx1 injectors cost 25GBP per side ...JACU? LPG - sklep internetowy LPG, cz??ci LPG, auto gaz, hurtownia lpg, cz??ci do instalacji gazowych, cz??ci lpg, akcesoria lpg,

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That site has good prices. I'd like to fit a bigger tank, and the price on there is just over £50 cheaper than I can find anywhere else.

What's the shipping to the UK going to be like on a heavy LPG tank though...? My Polish is awful I'm afraid.

ukadamwest said:

IMS bearing on the M96 engine ! 986, 996 and 987 yep i'm well aware of that joy. what porsche did you have Data ?

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944s forgot to mention it suffered total brake failure twice I was doing around 50K miles a year at the time but I only managed about 6k in 10 months in the Porsche as it was always off the road.

MrGorsky said:

That site has good prices. I'd like to fit a bigger tank, and the price on there is just over £50 cheaper than I can find anywhere else.

What's the shipping to the UK going to be like on a heavy LPG tank though...? My Polish is awful I'm afraid.

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its 30GBP up to 31kg

yaro has a point, but you can get good price here by shopping around..

if you can do so then fit yourself...its easy...the skill is in setting it up...but that can all be done by obd2

If it helps you any I have just had my P38 4.6 converted at Leeds Lpg. The filler has been installed inside petrol flap, so nice and tidy, runs like a dream. They supplied and fitted for £1100, and it has been added onto the UK Lpg register which replaces the paper certificates. My first service is after 1000 miles which is more of a checkup than anything, and they give a 2 years warranty