OT Referee

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:00:58 GMT, "Exit" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Then again, expecting sympathy for the England team from a Welshman is
>perhaps expecting a little too much - have you taken down the Portugal flags
>yet? ;-)

Whooooooooooooooooo!


Martyn

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:56:09 +0000 (UTC), "The Neffalump"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I do have a UK Passport, and two birth certificates - which is
>interesting....

Kin eck - you're not my long lost sister are you???

I have two Birth Certificates and the same number of Passports.
Legally, I could have three of each (and some wonder why I never know
where I am...) ;-)


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On or around Fri, 25 Jun 2004 21:00:58 GMT, "Exit" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>>
>> thought a player of his experience might be expected to note the state of
>> the ground beside the penalty spot, even so, being as he gets to place the
>> ball there.
>>
>Perhaps he was expecting it to conform to UEFA regulations and did not need
>checking. Perhaps his professional experience should've also prompted him to
>give the ref an impromptu eye test and measure the goal posts too. . . .
>
>Then again, expecting sympathy for the England team from a Welshman is
>perhaps expecting a little too much - have you taken down the Portugal flags
>yet? ;-)

ah, but I'm English by birth. mind, now that England are out it'd be fun if
Portugal went on to win it.

I see France got knocked out be the Greeks...

<ineffectually muffled laughter>

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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 08:27:38 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>ah, but I'm English by birth.

I thought you were a Brummie - close I guess ;-)

<grin>

Does that make me Mothers Sister? How confusing is that?!

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mention we would have a stand at Billing........

On or around Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:39:26 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 08:27:38 +0100, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>ah, but I'm English by birth.
>
>I thought you were a Brummie - close I guess ;-)

nah, parents both hail from south London.

I was actually born, according to my birth certificate, in the district of
Windsor and Eton, or somesuch.


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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 19:15:58 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>nah, parents both hail from south London.

[THUD]

Another wise exile!

> >
> >Then again, expecting sympathy for the England team from a Welshman is
> >perhaps expecting a little too much - have you taken down the Portugal
flags
> >yet? ;-)
>
> ah, but I'm English by birth. mind, now that England are out it'd be fun
if
> Portugal went on to win it.
>
There's a quarter of me from The Mumbles, but I rarely admit it! I'd
quite like to see Portugal win it too - nothing against their team, just
their groundsmen. . . . . .

> I see France got knocked out be the Greeks...
>
> <ineffectually muffled laughter>
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.fsnet.co.uk my opinions are just that
> Too Busy: Your mind is like a motorway. Sometimes it can be jammed by
> too much traffic. Avoid the jams by never using your mind on a
> Bank Holiday weekend.
> from the Little Book of Complete B***ocks by Alistair Beaton.

On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:06:14 GMT, Exit wrote:

> The goal wasn't allowed because it was scored by England, the country who
> knocked the refs country out of the tournament a game earlier.

Of course, that didn't dawn on me until you just mentioned it. Now it all
makes sense.


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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:08:44 +0100, Badger wrote:

> At least we Scots didn't go, we'd have got knocked out even sooner,

I don't mind getting knocked out first round if it's fair. It's when
everyone on the planet except one knows the goal was good but still
dissallows it. Even every Portugese native knows they didn't legitimately
win it. The shame they must have felt in victory must be a whole lot worse
than what we felt in defeat.

Anyway, Why are Englishmen better lovers than Frenckmen?

Because they can stay on top for 90 minutes and still come second!

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On or around Sun, 27 Jun 2004 19:38:31 +0100, Tony Boom
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Because they can stay on top for 90 minutes and still come second!

glad I wasn't drinking coffee at that point.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Boom" <[email protected]>
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Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2004 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: OT Referee


> On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 15:06:14 GMT, Exit wrote:
>
> > The goal wasn't allowed because it was scored by England, the country
who
> > knocked the refs country out of the tournament a game earlier.
>
> Of course, that didn't dawn on me until you just mentioned it. Now it all
> makes sense.
>

Actually, the goal was disallowed because one of the England team had his
arm on the Portugese goalie's shoulder as he came down, and from some
angles it looked as if he was obstructing the goalie.
Personally, I don't think there was any genuine or deliberate obstruction,
BUT it is an accepted rule of the game that there is a referee to make
decisions based on what he thinks he sees at the time, and that his decision
is final, so until the system changes and we have tv playback (see note
below please) prior to a decision being made, stop bleating!
Oh, and if blunderboy beckham was worth his wages he'd have realised the
condition of the penalty spot was far from ideal and done something about it
rather than try to put the ball on the moon!

Badger.
'scuse me, going to find my flak-jacket!

(oh joy, all those actors on the field creating merry hell and wasting even
more time whilst the ref consults the videotape, only to find that they were
trying it on all along! 90 minutes of inane boredom stretched out to 120
plus!)

In message <[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> writes
>On or around Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:39:26 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
>@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 08:27:38 +0100, Austin Shackles
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>ah, but I'm English by birth.
>>
>>I thought you were a Brummie - close I guess ;-)
>
>nah, parents both hail from south London.
>
>I was actually born, according to my birth certificate, in the district of
>Windsor and Eton, or somesuch.
>
>
That would make you from Berks
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In message <[email protected]>, Badger
<[email protected]> writes
>Actually, the goal was disallowed because one of the England team had his
>arm on the Portugese goalie's shoulder as he came down,
Not true. The referee clearly signalled to Sol Campbell that he had
given the free kick for pushing. Unfortunately being colour blind he
didn't realise that Sol was actually pushing John Terry, and it ain't a
foul for pushing your own team mate!!
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"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>, Badger
> <[email protected]> writes
> >Actually, the goal was disallowed because one of the England team had his
> >arm on the Portugese goalie's shoulder as he came down,
> Not true. The referee clearly signalled to Sol Campbell that he had
> given the free kick for pushing. Unfortunately being colour blind he
> didn't realise that Sol was actually pushing John Terry, and it ain't a
> foul for pushing your own team mate!!
> --
> hugh
> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting

Anyways, it doesn't really matter.
It's only a game - real sport has spark plugs!
Teehee.
Badger.

On or around Sun, 27 Jun 2004 22:41:46 +0100, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]>
enlightened us thusly:

>In message <[email protected]>, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> writes
>>On or around Sat, 26 Jun 2004 13:39:26 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
>>@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 08:27:38 +0100, Austin Shackles
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>ah, but I'm English by birth.
>>>
>>>I thought you were a Brummie - close I guess ;-)
>>
>>nah, parents both hail from south London.
>>
>>I was actually born, according to my birth certificate, in the district of
>>Windsor and Eton, or somesuch.
>>
>>
>That would make you from Berks

Bucks, actually. but close.

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On or around Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:02:23 +0100, "Badger"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Anyways, it doesn't really matter.
>It's only a game - real sport has spark plugs!

unless it's a diesel...

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On or around Mon, 28 Jun 2004 07:39:46 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>On or around Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:02:23 +0100, "Badger"
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Anyways, it doesn't really matter.
>>It's only a game - real sport has spark plugs!
>
>unless it's a diesel...

on which line, I see that some lot had a diesel entered at Le 24 heures du
Mans this year. didn't do any good, but interesting that they tried.


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"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Mon, 28 Jun 2004 07:39:46 +0100, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >On or around Sun, 27 Jun 2004 23:02:23 +0100, "Badger"
> ><[email protected]> enlightened us
thusly:
> >
> >>Anyways, it doesn't really matter.
> >>It's only a game - real sport has spark plugs!
> >
> >unless it's a diesel...
>
> on which line, I see that some lot had a diesel entered at Le 24 heures du
> Mans this year. didn't do any good, but interesting that they tried.
>
I was recently involved with a diesel discovery rally car (featured in
latest LRO) running lpg over diesel as a power enhancement, and no matter
what I did to the boost or fuelling (diesel and lpg) it just wouldn't
perform all that well. You could get more bhp and torque, but you couldn't
utilise it due to the slower accellerating characteristics of the diesel
engine. What LRO didn't tell you was that on the Snowman rally, even though
the finish place looked fairly good, it was the LAST finisher!! I think it
was also about second last on the Granite rally. Major problem for rallying
is it has no anti-roll bars and was running on the wrong rubber, and an
owner who'se wallet is sewn up with anchor chain!
Like I said, REAL sport has spark plugs. Diesels aren't real sport!
Teeheehee. And before you remind me Austin - yes, I know, I drive a diesel
car!
Badger.

On or around Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:12:35 +0100, "Badger"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>You could get more bhp and torque, but you couldn't
>utilise it due to the slower accellerating characteristics of the diesel
>engine.

you might need to lighten the flywheel and so on...

but in the case of a turbo, it's seemed to me that the most critical thing
is keeping the engine on the sweet spot of the turbo. our 300 TDi disco can
be made to shift bloody fast for a 2-ton vehicle with, lets face it, not
that much power, provided you keep the revs somewhere between about 2500 and
3500.

and all that's been done to that'n is to get the fuelling right (ish) but
not touched the boost. not even checked it. Oh, and block off the EGR, of
course

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