OT: Good riddance...

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Sort of 'off topic' anyway.



"A former West Wales media studies student considered so dangerous to
children by parents they established a "warning" website about him was
banned for life today from owning a camera or a computer. And
31-year-old Anthony Peter Luckwill was also jailed for 25 months on 15
counts of possessing indecent images of children. Luckwill, of Priory
Court, Carmarthen, also placed on the sex offender's register for 10
years, admitted the offences at Swansea Crown Court.

Francis Jones, prosecuting, said Luckwill joined a Carmarthen based
support group for families with autistic children. He told members he
wanted to video children with the condition and asked "wholly
inappropriate" questions about them. Parents in the group were so
concerned they called in the police and in November of last year
police took away a computer from his Carmarthen home for examination.

At the time, Luckwill was already serving a community rehabilitation
order placed on him for earlier offences of possessing indecent images
of children. While police were examining the computer Luckwill
obtained another one and downloaded more indecent images from the
internet. None of the images related to children involved in the
Carmarthen support group. Police again visited his home in Carmarthen
and took away the second computer. In total more than 100 indecent
images of children were found on the two machines including several
very serious "category 5" pictures of children actually being abused.
At first Luckwill claimed the images could have been sent to his
computers in malicious e-mails but he later admitted to interviewing
officers he had viewed the images saying, "OK, I've seen thelot". Last
summer, parents in West Wales set up a website containing Luckwill's
photograph and asked people to contact the police if they ever
suspected he was alone with a child.

The website warned that Luckwill was organising car exhibitions to
which children and their parents were invited. It also contained
newspaper articles covering indecency court cases involving Luckwill.
He was expelled from a media studies course at University College
Lampeter in 2003 after being convicted of possessing indecent images
of children leading to the community rehabilitation order. Yesterday,
his barrister Frank Phillips said Luckwill agreed he had an obsession
with children's underwear but was adamant it was not a sexual
obsession.

Judge Keith Thomas however said the images in Luckwill's possession
were mainly of naked children. And he said the defendant's actions at
the autistic support group were "classic signs of grooming children".
As well as jailing Luckwill for 25 months he ordered that he should
not have an interest in or own photographic equipment or computer
equipment. Judge Thomas said the banning order would be in place
indefinitely. But he agreed after hearing from Mr Phillips that it
could make Luckwill unemployable in the future that he could use such
equipment owned by any future employer. He told him, "You cannot
possess the equipment or take hire purchase out on it or use someone
else's equipment for personal use but you can use any employer's
equipment for work purposes".

The judge also ordered that Luckwill should regularly attend a
community sex offender programme on his release up to 2009. Because of
time already served on remand and possible remission, Luckwill could
be free within two months. The court was told that Luckwill had been
diagnosed as suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a form of autism. His
barrister Frank Phillips said his client was said to be at the milder
end of the syndrome. And he said it did not affect social interaction.
The judge said there was no evidence to suggest the syndrome was
responsible for Luckwill's offences.

Judge Thomas told Luckwill, "In April 2003 you joined the National
Autistic Support Group in Carmarthen and took an interest in the
children who were there and asked if you could film them. "You also
set up your own website on which you asked wholly inappropriate
questions about children. "These were classic signs of grooming
children and one of the most serious aspects of this case is that the
offences were carried out while serving a community rehabilitation
order...a serious aggravating feature." Bachelor Luckwill's existing
computer equipment was confiscated by the court."

 
Mother wrote:
> Sort of 'off topic' anyway.


Good news and at least in part due to your efforts, Martyn. I bet that's
not the last we hear of him though, he seems determined...

Paul

--
Paul Everett
repton at repton dot org
http://www.repton.org/
 
Mother" <"@ {m} @ wrote:
> Sort of 'off topic' anyway.
>
>


****s like that need more than putting in prison. Same as folk who hit kids due to the fact they can't
control them as they are too ****ing thick. I get sick of seeing 'tards belting kids in supermarkets etc.
I have never had to do this & believe me my daughter can push you right up into the red zone!

I saw a poor kid the other day, parents looked like something from the adams family, it was around zero
oC & they had the poor kid in a T-shirt. I very nearly said something, but the world is already full of
well meaning do-gooders & it always seems to backfire.

I saw a young girl fall of her bike the other year & if hadn't had the missus with me I really would have
had to ring the Police or some such to assist as it's just not worth the potential for hassle. Very sad,
but very true. Last year i was walking ogver Tower Bridge at around 9pm & as i walked down the steps a
young girl (around 13-14) came screaming towards me with a gang of lads after her. I stopped them from
getting past giving her a good start. Now i didnt know exactly what was going on, but it sure wasn't
right. Called the police on my mobile & tyhey came really fast. The gang are well known for this kind of
thing. The Copper told me next time to let them pass as they carry knives. What do you do?

Nige

Nige


 
Mr.Nice. wrote:

> It's a ****ed-up world alright.
> Well-done to you for intervening, but is it worth getting stabbed,
> shot or killed for?


Nope, but you wouldn't let it happen either.

>
> I once intervened in a gunpoint rape, 1 on 1, bloody stupid to get
> involved but there was no way I could not get involved, if you know
> what I mean.
> The girl and later her family were unbelieveably grateful (as you
> would expect) but the police were total ****s about it, said I was a
> stupid **** for getting involved and threatened to prosecute me for
> posession of a firearm (I disarmed and chased off the guy so still had
> his gun when plod arrived). Would I do it again? damn right.


Exactly!

>
> I'm rambling on a bit now so I'll f*** off...
>


That reminds me, I need some new hiking boots!!!!

>
> Regards.
> Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)


--
Subaru WRX (The Bitch)

Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)

__


 
RESULT!!!!!

Pity about the possibility of him being out in just a few months though.

With any luck he'll suffer something painfully terminal, his sort just
aren't fit to share in a decent society and I really don't believe in
counselling having any positive long-term effect either. His type normally
use the counselling as a short-term tool to enable their release and then
once released quickly build up to re-offending.

Well done to all those that played a part in bringing this scum to justice,
and a merry Christmas to all decent folks out there.

Badger.


 
"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote:

>I saw a poor kid the other day, parents looked like something from the adams family, it was around zero
>oC & they had the poor kid in a T-shirt.


I also wear only a T-shirt and some thin jacket; since I started this
almost every flue missed me. In fact putting the kids in clothes
designed for arctic temperatures (and forcing the kids to keep them on
while shopping) causes them big trouble, catching every flue that is
present and getting a bad immune system from what they will still
suffer as adults. Not to mention all the toddlers, not being able to
tell their discomfort (only by crying, but after a while even this
stops), while being kept in their carriage, wearing such clothes,
sweating as hell, with red faces and tears in their eyes.



regards - Ralph

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Want to get in touch? http://www.radio-link.net/whereisralph.txt
 
Badger wrote:
> RESULT!!!!!
>
> Pity about the possibility of him being out in just a few months
> though.
> With any luck he'll suffer something painfully terminal, his sort just
> aren't fit to share in a decent society and I really don't believe in
> counselling having any positive long-term effect either. His type
> normally use the counselling as a short-term tool to enable their
> release and then once released quickly build up to re-offending.
>
> Well done to all those that played a part in bringing this scum to
> justice, and a merry Christmas to all decent folks out there.
>
> Badger.


I had no idea some of you helped put him inside. What happened & how did it involve you lot?

Nige

--
Subaru WRX (The Bitch)

Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)

__


 
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:22:31 -0000, "Nige"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I had no idea some of you helped put him inside. What happened & how did it involve you lot?


Luckwill has been a 'regular' in this group, on and off, for about 5
or 6 years. http://www.luckwill.com has all the nasty details of his
various activities and aliases.

 
Mr.Nice. <mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> wrote:

>The girl and later her family were unbelieveably grateful (as you
>would expect) but the police were total ****s about it, said I was a
>stupid **** for getting involved and threatened to prosecute me for
>posession of a firearm (I disarmed and chased off the guy so still had
>his gun when plod arrived). Would I do it again? damn right.


So next time just shoot him, throw him from the bridge and walk away.
I really do not understand why such stuff is handled this way in your
country. In Germany they would say that it was crazy to take the guys
gun and aim at him (and maybe you have the chance that some police guy
overreacts when arriving, and shoots at _you_, not knowing that you
are the god guy), but no one would threaten to prosecute you for
possessing an firearm. We have here a system of different levels; when
you protect someones health or even life, then the temporarily
possession of the gun is overweighed by that. Of course there would be
some investigation if really you were the good guy, and the otheres
were not, but thats it.

I never had been in such really, really difficult situations, in the
80ies sometimes guys with knives, and during the last years I only had
to cope with drunk old farts in the subway, making trouble, trying to
get their hands on young girls, and no one did anything against them.
A grim look, some harsh words, my wife wispering at me "what're you
doing??? keep your damned mouth shut!", one time a threat to throw him
out of the sub at the next station, and it was done. Don't know how I
would react with a gun pointed at me, but for sure not like some
shivering sheep.



regards - Ralph

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Want to get in touch? http://www.radio-link.net/whereisralph.txt
 
Mother" <"@ {m} @ wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:22:31 -0000, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I had no idea some of you helped put him inside. What happened & how
>> did it involve you lot?

>
> Luckwill has been a 'regular' in this group, on and off, for about 5
> or 6 years. http://www.luckwill.com has all the nasty details of his
> various activities and aliases.


Cheers Martyn.

--
Subaru WRX (The Bitch)

Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)

__


 
I saw this guy turn up in an asperger syndrome list peddling the line about
making a video, and warned the NAS about him, it was quite disturbing to see
the way some people had been taken in by him not knowing his history.

--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes




"Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:22:31 -0000, "Nige"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>


>
> Luckwill has been a 'regular' in this group, on and off, for about 5
> or 6 years. http://www.luckwill.com has all the nasty details of his
> various activities and aliases.
>



 
Mother" <"@ {m} @ composed the following ...

> "A former West Wales media studies student considered so dangerous to
> children by parents they established a "warning" website about him was
> banned for life today from owning a camera or a computer. And
> 31-year-old Anthony Peter Luckwill was also jailed for 25 months on 15
> counts of possessing indecent images of children. Luckwill, of Priory
> Court, Carmarthen, also placed on the sex offender's register for 10
> years, admitted the offences at Swansea Crown Court.


Nice result, Martyn, and very well done.

> The judge also ordered that Luckwill should regularly attend a
> community sex offender programme on his release up to 2009.


Good. Though I guess he'll wriggle out of it somehow, so many seem to do
so.

> Because of
> time already served on remand and possible remission, Luckwill could
> be free within two months.


Bad. His sort really shouldn't be allowed early release because they've
been 'good' whilst waiting to do real time. He's proved that he 'knows the
score' time and again, I just hope he gets what he deserves whilst in
prison.

--
Paul ...
http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
(8(!) Homer Rules ... ;)
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


 
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:12:19 +0000, Paul Everett
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mother wrote:
>> Sort of 'off topic' anyway.

>
>Good news and at least in part due to your efforts, Martyn. I bet that's
>not the last we hear of him though, he seems determined...
>
>Paul


Hear hear.

Back on the streets in 2 months. It's a shame that our legal system
rates active paedophlia on a similar scale to theft etc.

I'm also rather doubtful that they will be able to enforce the ban on
owning a computer or camera. Even if the bans are enforced I suspect
that another avenue will be found. The only way to keep kids safe
would be to keep him locked up.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 

> So next time just shoot him, throw him from the bridge and walk away.



I have a sneaking suspicion this happens more often in the UK than is
reported in the PC press over here. There's many a time when the feeling
that lynch law is the only answer has occured to me personally. Sad to say I
was brought up with a VERY healthy respect for the law ( South Africa in the
60's ), it now seems that in this country, evil is good and law abiding is
for the meek and mild.
I've had my tyres slashed by some sad little muppet who I " dissed" by
driving at him when he ignorantly stepped into the road in front of me
expecting smoking tyres ( ever seen the veins stand out in the neck when
realization of impending doom sinks in :)) ). Police not interested.
Son mugged when applying for job at supermarket and said yobs had the gall
to return and mouth off self and friend ( both 6' 3" and heavy set ~ 18
stone, both in 44th in Angola ) then proceeded to mouth of 4 police
officers. Arrested after insulting police. The list goes on. Mind you so
does my grudge book which I fully intend to deal with as time deems it
appropriate and the night is dark enough. !!!


 
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:19:30 +0100, "Ralph A. Schmid, DK5RAS"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Nige" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>I saw a poor kid the other day, parents looked like something from the adams family, it was around zero
>>oC & they had the poor kid in a T-shirt.

>
>I also wear only a T-shirt and some thin jacket; since I started this
>almost every flue missed me. In fact putting the kids in clothes
>designed for arctic temperatures (and forcing the kids to keep them on
>while shopping) causes them big trouble, catching every flue that is
>present and getting a bad immune system from what they will still
>suffer as adults. Not to mention all the toddlers, not being able to
>tell their discomfort (only by crying, but after a while even this
>stops), while being kept in their carriage, wearing such clothes,
>sweating as hell, with red faces and tears in their eyes.
>
>
>
>regards - Ralph


Excuse me Doctor, but could you explain how the thickness of my coat
relates to my susceptibility to airborne viruses?


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 


> I've heard stories such as a guy with a repaired table leg in a
> carrier bag, calls at the pub on the way home and when he steps out
> the door again is shot by the police, I have NO faith in the judgement
> of the police in this country in such circumstances.



Could'nt agree more; however I wonder what kind of dealings they had had
between them before. Trouble is, again, we rely on an "impartial" press to
inform us.

Having said that, we took our sons to an open day at the local Police HQ a
year or so back. On display were the usual gung-ho gun players; got talking
to one firearms officer ( female ) about the weapons they used. Looking at
the Glock 9mm, "what charge do you carry ?" Oh it takes 14 rounds, ~quote ~
"I can only load 10 rounds and then the charger spring is too strong so my
male colleauge inserts the rest". Brill, so we have a trained officer who
cannot handle the weapons. Interesting if the situation arose where a reload
was in order !! I suppose it would confuse the opposition if they were
counting rounds used before recharging !!

Personally I believe that the armed units need to be composed of ex-military
experts in the art and not trained off the street non-military who have no
conception of the seriousness of the trigger squeeze, Frighteneing when you
think many of them would have been brought up with shoot em up video games.

Now off my hobby horse and ready for the flak :))

( just out of interest I would'nt be a copper for treble their salary, with
all the bulls..t they have to put up with )


 
I've heard of a guy getting a longer stretch for doing 140mph on a bike!

bring back capital punishment and the birch

This country is going to the dogs - and the establishment seems to favour
the criminals by protecting them.



"Mother" <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sort of 'off topic' anyway.
>
>
>
> "A former West Wales media studies student considered so dangerous to
> children by parents they established a "warning" website about him was
> banned for life today from owning a camera or a computer. And
> 31-year-old Anthony Peter Luckwill was also jailed for 25 months on 15
> counts of possessing indecent images of children. Luckwill, of Priory
> Court, Carmarthen, also placed on the sex offender's register for 10
> years, admitted the offences at Swansea Crown Court.
>
> Francis Jones, prosecuting, said Luckwill joined a Carmarthen based
> support group for families with autistic children. He told members he
> wanted to video children with the condition and asked "wholly
> inappropriate" questions about them. Parents in the group were so
> concerned they called in the police and in November of last year
> police took away a computer from his Carmarthen home for examination.
>
> At the time, Luckwill was already serving a community rehabilitation
> order placed on him for earlier offences of possessing indecent images
> of children. While police were examining the computer Luckwill
> obtained another one and downloaded more indecent images from the
> internet. None of the images related to children involved in the
> Carmarthen support group. Police again visited his home in Carmarthen
> and took away the second computer. In total more than 100 indecent
> images of children were found on the two machines including several
> very serious "category 5" pictures of children actually being abused.
> At first Luckwill claimed the images could have been sent to his
> computers in malicious e-mails but he later admitted to interviewing
> officers he had viewed the images saying, "OK, I've seen thelot". Last
> summer, parents in West Wales set up a website containing Luckwill's
> photograph and asked people to contact the police if they ever
> suspected he was alone with a child.
>
> The website warned that Luckwill was organising car exhibitions to
> which children and their parents were invited. It also contained
> newspaper articles covering indecency court cases involving Luckwill.
> He was expelled from a media studies course at University College
> Lampeter in 2003 after being convicted of possessing indecent images
> of children leading to the community rehabilitation order. Yesterday,
> his barrister Frank Phillips said Luckwill agreed he had an obsession
> with children's underwear but was adamant it was not a sexual
> obsession.
>
> Judge Keith Thomas however said the images in Luckwill's possession
> were mainly of naked children. And he said the defendant's actions at
> the autistic support group were "classic signs of grooming children".
> As well as jailing Luckwill for 25 months he ordered that he should
> not have an interest in or own photographic equipment or computer
> equipment. Judge Thomas said the banning order would be in place
> indefinitely. But he agreed after hearing from Mr Phillips that it
> could make Luckwill unemployable in the future that he could use such
> equipment owned by any future employer. He told him, "You cannot
> possess the equipment or take hire purchase out on it or use someone
> else's equipment for personal use but you can use any employer's
> equipment for work purposes".
>
> The judge also ordered that Luckwill should regularly attend a
> community sex offender programme on his release up to 2009. Because of
> time already served on remand and possible remission, Luckwill could
> be free within two months. The court was told that Luckwill had been
> diagnosed as suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a form of autism. His
> barrister Frank Phillips said his client was said to be at the milder
> end of the syndrome. And he said it did not affect social interaction.
> The judge said there was no evidence to suggest the syndrome was
> responsible for Luckwill's offences.
>
> Judge Thomas told Luckwill, "In April 2003 you joined the National
> Autistic Support Group in Carmarthen and took an interest in the
> children who were there and asked if you could film them. "You also
> set up your own website on which you asked wholly inappropriate
> questions about children. "These were classic signs of grooming
> children and one of the most serious aspects of this case is that the
> offences were carried out while serving a community rehabilitation
> order...a serious aggravating feature." Bachelor Luckwill's existing
> computer equipment was confiscated by the court."
>



 
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 22:07:09 GMT, Hirsty's wrote:

> Personally I believe that the armed units need to be composed of
> ex-military experts in the art and not trained off the street
> non-military who have no conception of the seriousness of the
> trigger squeeze,


You'd have to choose your ex-mil people very carefully. There are some
really rather strange people in the military, people who would much
rather blow your head off than ask *any* questions.

I suspect that Police firearms officers are well aware of the
seriousness of the trigger squeeze. I know they shoot to drop the
target, not just "injure" or "slow down", that basically means the
chances are that you are going to kill them. They also know that for
everytime they squeeze the trigger they are going to have to answer
the question, Why?

> Frighteneing when you think many of them would have been brought up
> with shoot em up video games.


Same applies to the ex-military...

> ( just out of interest I would'nt be a copper for treble their
> salary, with all the bulls..t they have to put up with )


<AOL>

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Dave. pam is missing e-mail



 
in article [email protected], Larry at [email protected]
wrote on 21/12/04 17:24:

> I saw this guy turn up in an asperger syndrome list peddling the line about
> making a video, and warned the NAS about him, it was quite disturbing to see
> the way some people had been taken in by him not knowing his history.



Guilty of being taken in, it wanted to do a film about my son.I told my ex
wife about it and she contacted him then he wouldn't leave her alone. I feel
such a ****.

 
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:17:11 +0000, Rory Manton
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Guilty of being taken in, it wanted to do a film about my son.I told my ex
>wife about it and she contacted him then he wouldn't leave her alone. I feel
>such a ****.


There's no reason you should feel that way at all. It is a part of
the way they work - building cred, trust, in every way seeming nice,
normal people. Hard to accept, but such people are not monsters - what
they do is monstrous, but nobody should feel 'guilty' of being taken
in by them.

 
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