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Lee_D

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Right my little techie friends , no point spending the coffee break reading
here. There is no escape ;-)

Whats the deal with this Ghost thing where I can dump my harddrive to disk
incase of terminal failure?

Does it also copy all the installed software too?
Recommended Ghost proggys for peanuts for windows XP please.

I'd like to reformat at some point but I'm not sure Ghosting would be best
and anything else seems like alot of hard work

Discuss :)

Lee D
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"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
: Right my little techie friends , no point spending the coffee break
reading
: here. There is no escape ;-)
:
: Whats the deal with this Ghost thing where I can dump my harddrive to disk
: incase of terminal failure?
:
: Does it also copy all the installed software too?
: Recommended Ghost proggys for peanuts for windows XP please.
:
: I'd like to reformat at some point but I'm not sure Ghosting would be best
: and anything else seems like alot of hard work
:
: Discuss :)
:
: Lee D

Hi Lee,

Ghost is a complete and total image of your disk as it is. Kind of like
creating an ISO of a CD to copy it, but the entire disk.

because it only copies the data thats on the disk, you dont necessarily need
an identical sized disk

Si


 

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Right my little techie friends , no point spending the coffee break
reading
> here. There is no escape ;-)
>
> Whats the deal with this Ghost thing where I can dump my harddrive
to disk
> incase of terminal failure?
>
> Does it also copy all the installed software too?
> Recommended Ghost proggys for peanuts for windows XP please.
>
> I'd like to reformat at some point but I'm not sure Ghosting would
be best
> and anything else seems like alot of hard work
>
> Discuss :)
>
> Lee D
> --
> www.lrproject.com
>
> a.f.l. & 101ers Unofficial October 2006
> <http://www.lrproject.com/afl__101_owners_unofficial.htm>
>
> Anti's - Give them enough rope and they'll be stuck in a ditch with
a lot of
> rope ;-)
>
>

I find ghost absolutely excellent. Previous back up strategies needed
the operating system reloading before putting back my data. With
Ghost, it creates a complete image whilst running on 'pcdos', and if
so set up can burn a CD or DVD that is bootable. As it isn't running
your normal operating system whilst backing up there are no problems
with open files that cannot be backed up. I now do a monthly complete
ghost image which I can re-load in under 12 minutes. I do however
prune the rubbish of my hdd first to keep the size down to onee DVD,
clearing out the cache etc.

AWEM

AWEM


 
Andrew Mawson <andrew@no_spam_please_mawson.org.uk> uttered summat
worrerz funny about:
> I find ghost absolutely excellent. Previous back up strategies needed
> the operating system reloading before putting back my data. With
> Ghost, it creates a complete image whilst running on 'pcdos', and if
> so set up can burn a CD or DVD that is bootable. As it isn't running
> your normal operating system whilst backing up there are no problems
> with open files that cannot be backed up. I now do a monthly complete
> ghost image which I can re-load in under 12 minutes. I do however
> prune the rubbish of my hdd first to keep the size down to onee DVD,
> clearing out the cache etc.
>
> AWEM
>


good news, now to show my ignorance is "Ghost" a process, or an individual
bit of software? Are there several bits of software that do Ghost or only
one Ghost(tm) ver wot.eva.!

For an operator who thinks he knows what he's doing till it all goes tits up
which is the best "Ghost" to use and where to get it how much or shareware /
freeware.

Don't mind paying my hardearned so long as it works.

Can I Ghost my laptop on to a DVD via my desktop as the desktop has a DVD RW
on? Assume a network is up and running.

Sorry so many Q's but I've often read comments on the group - these are the
blanks (in my head anyway!)

Lee


 
On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:35:18 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:


>good news, now to show my ignorance is "Ghost" a process, or an individual
>bit of software? Are there several bits of software that do Ghost or only
>one Ghost(tm) ver wot.eva.!

It is a bit of software called 'ghost', but since it does it well the
process (as done via other methods) is also often called ghosting

>For an operator who thinks he knows what he's doing till it all goes tits up
>which is the best "Ghost" to use and where to get it how much or shareware /
>freeware.
>
>Don't mind paying my hardearned so long as it works.
>
>Can I Ghost my laptop on to a DVD via my desktop as the desktop has a DVD RW
>on? Assume a network is up and running.
>
>Sorry so many Q's but I've often read comments on the group - these are the
>blanks (in my head anyway!)

Yes you can ghost a machine straight to a CD (and presuambly a DVD
too, though ive never done it). It is however often quicker to use a
USB hardisk or just plug a spare old IDE one in.
I generally ghost stuff across the network onto a network share on my
server/spare pc, but this will take you a bot more work (though i can
give you the relevant boot disks and a hand if you like). After you
have done this you can burn the created image onto disc if you like.

using the proper 'ghost' software is the easiest way of doing it. I'd
buy an older version if i were you (nothing newer than ghost 2003 -
read the last thread about it by Martyn!). tT doesnt cost much. I've
bought it for all the sites i work at and it is about £25

 
Ghost 2003 OEM

http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/111446

£12.18 inc vat on ebuyer.

That is the OEM, so if it comes without the box and destruction book,
you can come round here and i'll give you mine since i dont need it (I
was thinking about throwing it out anyhow since i only use the CD!)
 
Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> Ghost 2003 OEM
>
> http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/111446
>
> £12.18 inc vat on ebuyer.
>
> That is the OEM, so if it comes without the box and destruction book,
> you can come round here and i'll give you mine since i dont need it (I
> was thinking about throwing it out anyhow since i only use the CD!)

Cheers, ordered. I'll let you know about the book, maybe after my exam on
the 12th before I dare break anything.

If I understand it correctly ref the lap top I make an image on a network
drive then bung on to DVD / CD via the machine with the DVD writer? Sounds
simple enough.

Does it image all of the whole hard drive? I'm finding it hard to beleive it
would cram all that stuff on a cd or DVD or does it use a number of disks?
For instance once reinitiating the ghosted image would I notice any
difference to the likes of email settings... old emails... stuff and things
:)

Lee


 
Lee_D <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:

Ignore the last, just re read Si's reply - Been a long hard day but if
anyone wants to know about exposing a wound for the purpose of begging then
I'm your man.

;-)

Lee D


 
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 01:16:20 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
>about:
>> Ghost 2003 OEM
>>
>> http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/111446
>>
>> £12.18 inc vat on ebuyer.
>>
>> That is the OEM, so if it comes without the box and destruction book,
>> you can come round here and i'll give you mine since i dont need it (I
>> was thinking about throwing it out anyhow since i only use the CD!)
>
>Cheers, ordered. I'll let you know about the book, maybe after my exam on
>the 12th before I dare break anything.
>
>If I understand it correctly ref the lap top I make an image on a network
>drive then bung on to DVD / CD via the machine with the DVD writer? Sounds
>simple enough.
>
>Does it image all of the whole hard drive? I'm finding it hard to beleive it
>would cram all that stuff on a cd or DVD or does it use a number of disks?
>For instance once reinitiating the ghosted image would I notice any
>difference to the likes of email settings... old emails... stuff and things

it makes an exact image and will span disks

 
>>>>> "Andrew" == Andrew Mawson <andrew@no_spam_please_mawson.org.uk> writes:

Andrew> I find ghost absolutely excellent. Previous back up
Andrew> strategies needed the operating system reloading before
Andrew> putting back my data.

I'd second that, and the later images can create a ghost image while
under Windows.

I'm paranoid enough that I keep the drive with the image powered down
when not in use, so that even if a virus destroys the machine, the
data on the imaged disk is clean.

Get a decent USB2 external drive and a copy of Norton Ghost and you're
well away.

Andy

--
Andy Cunningham -- www.cunningham.me.uk
I don't have a sense of humour, merely an over-exaggerated sense of revenge.
-- Stephen Harris
 
Hi guys

Just a couple of points

I recommend using the Ghost command line switches

Ghost /ntil /span /split=620 /autoname /buffersize=8

This will create a series of 650Mb images (CD size) which you can burn on to CD or copy them all to DVD / HDD.
Don't worry too much about the other switches they just make it go faster and ignore logfiles.

To be able to ghost a disk you will need to be able to access a file system from dos (Not the source HDD).
Ie
If you are taking a copy of your computers HDD you will need to be able to Read
the HDD (probley NTFS format) and write a file away some where such as a mapped network
drive or a local attached HDD such as a USB HDD.
If this is the case you will need to able to access the mapped network drive or
USB HDD from DOS where ghost is running.

PS
Ghost is brill and I have been using it professionally now for 10 years (in one form or another)
and if you can afford it get the pro version as this will give you better boot disk creation wizards.
 
AndyC the WB wrote:

> I'm paranoid enough that I keep the drive with the image powered down
> when not in use, so that even if a virus destroys the machine, the
> data on the imaged disk is clean.

That's not paranoid... I'm paranoid enough to keep the external drive in
the fire safe when it's not in use.


--
EMB
 
On 2006-08-31, EMB <[email protected]> wrote:

> That's not paranoid... I'm paranoid enough to keep the external drive in
> the fire safe when it's not in use.

My fire safe is down at the self storage place 16 miles away!

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
A mate of mine working in Malaysia has sent me his ghost images to
store in my fire safe, so that's about 6, 617 miles !

 
On 2006-09-01, Embo <[email protected]> wrote:

> A mate of mine working in Malaysia has sent me his ghost images to
> store in my fire safe, so that's about 6, 617 miles !

At this point I wish I could clarify that I meant 16 miles straight
down, but alas no ;-) Straight *up* would be interesting too!

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 
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