Freelander 1 Oil extractors

Afternoon all, I was wondering if anyone has any experience with the oil extraction pumps being sold on eBay. They seem a good price, and look like they would save a lot of work.
Any advice welcome. Thank you.

brownie55 said:

They seem a good price, and look like they would save a lot of work.

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Changing the oil isn't any work, so you'll not be saving much. These extractors don't get all the oil and sludge out, which makes them pretty pointless IMO.

A lot of garages seem to use this method these days.

i have one it works a treat,saves a lot of time ln not having to remove sump guard.when your getting older saves the old body from crawling under the beast.

Joezeppy said:

i have one it works a treat,saves a lot of time ln not having to remove sump guard.when your getting older saves the old body from crawling under the beast.

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That's my 6 monthly gym/yoga work out - keeps me fit and healthy.

One of the neighbors uses one but I like to have a look underneath while the guards off.

Nodge68 said:

Changing the oil isn't any work, so you'll not be saving much. These extractors don't get all the oil and sludge out, which makes them pretty pointless IMO.

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Can you 100% confirm that you've taken the sump plug out to check, after using an extractor sensibly?

My son used one and it worked well but that was only because we could not get the sump plug out, as nodge says it would not suck the gunge out and tbh I would sooner drain it out via the sump

tlo said:

My son used one and it worked well but that was only because we could not get the sump plug out, as nodge says it would not suck the gunge out and tbh I would sooner drain it out via the sump

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Have you tried taking the sump plug out after sensibly using an extractor?

julianf said:

Have you tried taking the sump plug out after sensibly using an extractor?

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My son in law sorted it out when it went in for a new head gasket got a new one in now

tlo said:

My son in law sorted it out when it went in for a new head gasket got a new one in now

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So, you have not tried taking the sump plug out after sensibly using an extractor?

How do you know that -

tlo said:

...as nodge says it would not suck the gunge out and tbh I would sooner drain it out via the sump

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I mean, im not trying to disagree, but i hear that banded about so much, but the only way anyone would know that is if you have done what i asked. It seems you have not, so how do you know what you are claiming?

julianf said:

So, you have not tried taking the sump plug out after sensibly using an extractor?

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No mate it was done when the car went in for other work I don't know how he got it out

Not my video.

Hmm, I believe he was asking that after you have 'extracted' the oil with that pump... have you then removed the sump plug to see if anything comes out and what quantity. I guess it's to see how thorough a job the extractor does.

The video above answers his question.

I think that's fine as long as you're changing oil regularly, maybe drop it from the sump plug every 3rd or 4th oil change.

I did see a yank on you-Tube showing a demo of a standard "plug-out" change and then he dropped the pan and showed a quantity of oil still left in there because the thickness of the sump plug wall was higher than the surrounding pan. I recall that he illustrated that the pump-out method removed virtually all of the oil. Selling Pumps? Maybe.

julianf said:

Can you 100% confirm that you've taken the sump plug out to check, after using an extractor sensibly?

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I've tested the extractor I used by removing the sump plug after it had finished sucking the oil. The extractor left about a litre of oil in the sump, most of which was sludge. The only reason I actually removed the plug in the first place, was the pump extracted less oil than I was expecting to see in the container.

This is unacceptable and pointless IMO. However it's your vehicle, so you can take whatever shortcuts you like with it.

An extractor is cleaner and less work on a Freelander, but if it's only doing 3/4 of the job, then it's falling short of requirements.

You've still got to change the filter as well.

I think my L Series one is visible from the wheel arch area, but not sure if it can be replaced without removing the undertray - or maybe the side plastic bit.

Is there any problem is simply not refitting the under tray?

GrumpyGel said:

You've still got to change the filter as well.

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You have, although on a TD4, it's accessed from the top. All other engines require the sump guard to be removed to access the filter.

GrumpyGel said:

Is there any problem is simply not refitting the under tray?

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Not really, unless you're venturing off road. It's not a strong item, but it does provide a degree of protection from objects hitting the sump and other vulnerable areas. On the road it helps keep the underside of the engine bay clean, but not much else.
I personally don't see what the issue is with it. It takes under 10 minutes to remove or refit, so I prefer to keep it in place.