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Jim Roberts

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Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment
and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other software.

Tks#

Jim R



 
On or around Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:26:20 -0000, "Jim Roberts"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
>worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment
>and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other software.
>
>Tks#


My personal recommendation is F-prot.

(http://www.f-prot.com)

But others swear by Norton. Personally, I dislike Symantec, so I don't buy
their stuff - increasingly, they're empire-building as well, taking over
everyone else...

I also use Agnitum Outpost firewall, and have in the past used ZoneAlarm,
both seem Ok - I went for Outpost 'cos it was a bit cheaper for the full
version, I think. Nicely flexible, too.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"There is plenty of time to win this game, and to thrash the Spaniards
too" Sir Francis Drake (1540? - 1596) Attr. saying when the Armarda was
sighted, 20th July 1588
 

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:26:20 -0000, "Jim Roberts"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
>>worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment
>>and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other
>>software.
>>
>>Tks#

>
> My personal recommendation is F-prot.
>
> (http://www.f-prot.com)
>
> But others swear by Norton. Personally, I dislike Symantec, so I don't
> buy
> their stuff - increasingly, they're empire-building as well, taking over
> everyone else...
>
> I also use Agnitum Outpost firewall, and have in the past used ZoneAlarm,
> both seem Ok - I went for Outpost 'cos it was a bit cheaper for the full
> version, I think. Nicely flexible, too.



Putting my "I look after enterprise AV" hat on, we found norton to be 60%
effective in testing, whereas mcafee was 99% effective. Norman was about
88%, avg was 93% and f-secure was about 90%

We went mcafee

In the non-enterprise world, I like avg and mcafee.

Firewall wise, kerios - www.kerios.com - is great. Especially as its free
for home users

Si


 

"Jim Roberts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
> worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment
> and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other
> software.
>
> Tks#
>
> Jim R
>
>
>


AVG from Grisoft, its free

Peter.


 

"Jim Roberts" wrote >
> Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
> worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment
> and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other
> software.
>


Personally I have used, am using, both Symantec (Norton) and McAfee and much
prefer the latter. Easier to use, easier to renew, and automatic updates,
basically set it up and forget it. A computer geek told me he gets more
problems caused by Symantecs program conflicting with others too.

If you have a virus, McAfee have some free tools on their site to rid you of
most common ones.
http://us.mcafee.com/virusInfo/default.asp?id=vrt

Hope that helps.

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London


 

"Jim Roberts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
> worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment
> and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other
> software.
>
> Tks#
>
> Jim R
>
>
>

If you use Norton use the separate antivirus package (and if you want a
firewall their separate personal firewall package). These stand-alone
packages work better than the integrated packages which Imo tend to be a bit
too complicated for their own good.

I understand the Norton '06 antivirus package (which is available now)
updates automatically on a daily basis. I have used Norton products in both
a commercial and home based set-up since way back (eighties) and only
experienced a significant problem in one instance.

I used the free AVG offering a couple of years back for a short period and
had more problems in just a few months _but_ it is your choice.

If I didn't use Norton I would use Kaspersky.

Richard


 
Jim Roberts wrote:
>
> Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
> worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment
> and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other software.


I use Symantec (Norton) at the client sites I administer and it does the
job admirably.

I've also been using eTrust on a few standalone PC's that only have
dial-up connections as the signature update files are small.

http://www3.ca.com/solutions/Product.aspx?ID=156



--
EMB
 
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:34:25 +0000 (UTC), "Richard"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Jim Roberts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...


>> worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment


Not many sales of spiced and canned panda then.

>If I didn't use Norton I would use Kaspersky.


If I didn't use Kapersky I'd use Nod ;-)

If I were worried I use my linux box, even though I cannot figure out
how to change things on it.

AJH
 
AJH wrote:

> If I were worried I use my linux box, even though I cannot figure out
> how to change things on it.


Which distribution ? The latest ones from (K)ubuntu or Suse are dead
easy to administer.

What do you want to change ?
Steve
 
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:46:17 +0000, Steve
<[email protected]> wrote:

>AJH wrote:
>
>> If I were worried I use my linux box, even though I cannot figure out
>> how to change things on it.

>
>Which distribution ? The latest ones from (K)ubuntu or Suse are dead
>easy to administer.


I'm on hoary
>
>What do you want to change ?


I'm not sure because I'm still dabbling and currently I'm using it as
installed. I like Knode for newsreading but it doesn't seem to let me
preserve interesting posts like agent does.

AJH

 
SiK wrote:
> "Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On or around Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:26:20 -0000, "Jim Roberts"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop.
>>> Dont worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at
>>> the moment and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or
>>> any other software.
>>>
>>> Tks#

>>
>> My personal recommendation is F-prot.
>>
>> (http://www.f-prot.com)
>>
>> But others swear by Norton. Personally, I dislike Symantec, so I
>> don't buy
>> their stuff - increasingly, they're empire-building as well, taking
>> over everyone else...
>>
>> I also use Agnitum Outpost firewall, and have in the past used
>> ZoneAlarm, both seem Ok - I went for Outpost 'cos it was a bit
>> cheaper for the full version, I think. Nicely flexible, too.

>
>
> Putting my "I look after enterprise AV" hat on, we found norton to be
> 60% effective in testing, whereas mcafee was 99% effective. Norman
> was about 88%, avg was 93% and f-secure was about 90%
>
> We went mcafee
>
> In the non-enterprise world, I like avg and mcafee.
>
> Firewall wise, kerios - www.kerios.com - is great. Especially as its
> free for home users
>
> Si


McAfee used to be good, but too many problems these days and indifferent
support.
Clients who use Symantec have more problems than any others
NOD32 or Trend Micro seem to be pretty trouble free.
The free ones? I rather suspect you get what you pay for, I've never tried
them myself but I do have a few impoverished clients that use AVG without
too much drama.

But nothing will give you 100% protection, common sense needs to be applied
as well as relying upon software.

Karen


--
"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast


 
This is the link to the free version of AVG:
http://free.grisoft.com/doc/Get+AVG+FREE/lng/us/tpl/v5

AVG is effective and no trouble maker.

"Pete S" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Jim Roberts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>> Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
>> worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment
>> and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other
>> software.
>>
>> Tks#
>>
>> Jim R
>>
>>
>>

>
> AVG from Grisoft, its free
>
> Peter.
>



 
> >>Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
> >>worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the

moment
> >>and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other
> >>software.
> >>
> >>Tks#

> >
> > My personal recommendation is F-prot.
> >
> > (http://www.f-prot.com)
> >
> > But others swear by Norton. Personally, I dislike Symantec, so I don't
> > buy
> > their stuff - increasingly, they're empire-building as well, taking over
> > everyone else...
> >
> > I also use Agnitum Outpost firewall, and have in the past used

ZoneAlarm,
> > both seem Ok - I went for Outpost 'cos it was a bit cheaper for the full
> > version, I think. Nicely flexible, too.

>
>
> Putting my "I look after enterprise AV" hat on, we found norton to be 60%
> effective in testing, whereas mcafee was 99% effective. Norman was about
> 88%, avg was 93% and f-secure was about 90%
>
> We went mcafee
>
> In the non-enterprise world, I like avg and mcafee.
>
> Firewall wise, kerios - www.kerios.com - is great. Especially as its free
> for home users
>
> Si
>

Hi,

I disagree with Si about Norton - I've found it effective in both corporate
and domestic environments. Easy to setup and configure.

Mcafee on the other hand is full of bugs, and has a severe impact on the
system if you use on access scanning.

Sophos is also pretty good - the update mechanism is excellent.

Cheers
Graham Carter
Carter Computer Services
Harare
Zimbabwe


 
I've been using Grisofts AVG for years now. Never encountered any
problems. In my experience it's much less of a hassle than Norton,
which I used to run because it was preinstalled. I use a Sygate fire
wall and WinPatrol, Diamondcs' Registry Protection and PrevX for good
measure. I don't think I'm overdoing it, because I spend all day (and
night, if deadlines creep up on me) on the internet. I use Pegasus Mail
because Pegasus' html-renderer prevents me from accidentally openening
infected (html)attachments.

Richard

Jim Roberts wrote:
> Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
> worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment
> and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other software.
>
> Tks#
>
> Jim R


 
"Jim Roberts" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop. Dont
> worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at the moment
> and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or any other
> software.
>
> Tks#
>
> Jim R
>


There is no such thing as security,
just various levels of insecurity.

Joskin


 
SiK wrote:
> "Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> On or around Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:26:20 -0000, "Jim Roberts"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi everyone. I have been hit by a major virus problem on my laptop.
>>> Dont worry am using the desk top machine for this.Am using Panda at
>>> the moment and would like opinions on Norton anti virus software or
>>> any other software.
>>>
>>> Tks#

>>
>> My personal recommendation is F-prot.
>>
>> (http://www.f-prot.com)
>>
>> But others swear by Norton. Personally, I dislike Symantec, so I
>> don't buy
>> their stuff - increasingly, they're empire-building as well, taking
>> over everyone else...
>>
>> I also use Agnitum Outpost firewall, and have in the past used
>> ZoneAlarm, both seem Ok - I went for Outpost 'cos it was a bit
>> cheaper for the full version, I think. Nicely flexible, too.

>
>
> Putting my "I look after enterprise AV" hat on, we found norton to be
> 60% effective in testing, whereas mcafee was 99% effective. Norman
> was about 88%, avg was 93% and f-secure was about 90%
>
> We went mcafee
>
> In the non-enterprise world, I like avg and mcafee.


Imho, virus-checkers are always late. They offer no protection to the
zero-day exploits. Therefore I don't use anti-virus sw, but a firewall
instead. In the near future this firewall will be running on a proxy server
(i.e. an old machine that is of no other use anymore).
In addition to that, I refuse to open html e-mails and/or attachments. My
correspondants know their html junk simply gets deleted. Most of the viruses
are eating machines through social engineering, you know.

> Firewall wise, kerios - www.kerios.com - is great. Especially as its
> free for home users


You might wanna change that into http://www.kerio.com/kerio.html ...


 
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