P38A Not these.... Eas.

Datatek said:

Dunlop's 8 years 80K miles max. Arnott Gen 2's 10 years and counting.

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I changed my Dunlops in 2012, they showed surface deterioration around the rolled areas, the rears worse than the fronts, but none were noticeably leaking. The car was assembled in June 1998 first registered Jan 1999. So it was one of the last made to 1998 specs before 1999 spec production started. So the bags were 14 years old but the car had only averaged 7500 miles per year.

wammers said:

I changed my Dunlops in 2012, they showed surface deterioration around the rolled areas, the rears worse than the fronts, but none were noticeably leaking. The car was assembled in June 1998 first registered Jan 1999. So it was one of the last made to 1998 specs before 1999 spec production started. So the bags were 14 years old but the car had only averaged 7500 miles per year.

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My car was first registered in November 2000, I bought it in March 2009 with 82K on the clock. the rear Dunlop's were completely knackered with the cords showing, the fronts were a bit better. I guess the conditions of use must have nan effect

I read on another forum that Arnott Gen3 airbags no longer provide extra lift. I have not followed up. Anyone?

Gord Wedman said:

I read on another forum that Arnott Gen3 airbags no longer provide extra lift. I have not followed up. Anyone?

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A quick look at the Arnott site revealed the following for 2020:-
Part Number: A-2691
Arnott's advanced aftermarket Generation III air spring for the front of your Range Rover features a unique CNC-machined solid piston crafted from aircraft-quality 6061-T6 aluminum. The specially-designed piston gives your Range Rover suspension a lower spring rate for off-road driving and a higher spring rate in highway mode. The Arnott Generation III Air Spring design includes a longer air spring bladder - an extra 5.08 cm - for extended travel. Therefore, unlike the factory-installed OE Land Rover air springs, Arnott's Generation III Front Air Spring boasts a more comprehensive design - providing your Range Rover with superior handling both on and off-road.

Thanks for that. I bought a parts car that the owner said had Gen3 air springs and swapped them over to my 2000 but I believe only the front bags are Gen3 as the rear bags looked overextended when I used RSW software to increase my heights so I didn't go as high there. I have done some pretty serious off road driving and have not yet had an issue with height sensors or bags.

Gord Wedman said:

Thanks for that. I bought a parts car that the owner said had Gen3 air springs and swapped them over to my 2000 but I believe only the front bags are Gen3 as the rear bags looked overextended when I used RSW software to increase my heights so I didn't go as high there. I have done some pretty serious off road driving and have not yet had an issue with height sensors or bags.

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If gen 3 the bottom part will be solid aluminium. It will also have a band crimped around the top and I think the rubber part has Continental written on it. Unless you fit different shocks and extend the height sensors you cannot use the extra lift.

wammers said:

I changed my Dunlops in 2012, they showed surface deterioration around the rolled areas, the rears worse than the fronts, but none were noticeably leaking. The car was assembled in June 1998 first registered Jan 1999. So it was one of the last made to 1998 specs before 1999 spec production started. So the bags were 14 years old but the car had only averaged 7500 miles per year.

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The rubber for the original Land Rover bags was definitely better quality.

Mine were changed out as preventative maintenance as they had the same surface deterioration where they fold over. No cords showing but not long to go. But then they were £50 whereas the Land Rover ones are what, 5 times that?

Grrrrrr said:

The rubber for the original Land Rover bags was definitely better quality.

Mine were changed out as preventative maintenance as they had the same surface deterioration where they fold over. No cords showing but not long to go. But then they were £50 whereas the Land Rover ones are what, 5 times that?

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More than likely the same bags Land rover used. They do have a certain bare faced overpricing policy that is hard to beat. £72.00 for a 12" length of brake pipe with a tube nut at either end takes a lot of beating and can only be described as extortionate.

Spot the better kit!!!

Here = no fiddling about

Mark Piercy said:

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Spot the better kit!!!

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Is that a white Teflon seal at the top? Not seen a white one before.

Grrrrrr said:

Is that a white Teflon seal at the top? Not seen a white one before.

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They dont last as long, its similar to the one they use on the range rover sport and discovery pump.

The white one is the naff set from eBay. The seal won't go into the cylinder once it's fitted onto the piston.
@kurtjohnson10, is that a later type piston? I've not seen them before.
How much is the kit you have there please, for future reference.

Mark Piercy said:

The white one is the naff set from eBay. The seal won't go into the cylinder once it's fitted onto the piston.
@kurtjohnson10, is that a later type piston? I've not seen them before.
How much is the kit you have there please, for future reference.

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The kit you have is just a cheap copy one mate, probably once again from China
My kit in the picture is £18 and that includes postage within the UK
Lot easier everything new and already assembled = no piddling about

kurtjohnson10 said:

The kit you have is just a cheap copy one mate, probably once again from China
My kit in the picture is £18 and that includes postage within the UK
Lot easier everything new and already assembled = no piddling about

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Piston included?

Mark Piercy said:

Piston included?

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yep everything in the picture

kurtjohnson10 said:

yep everything in the picture

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We'll I bloody never, I wish Id known about your kit. Nevermind, there will be a next time Mr Bond... thx.

Mark Piercy said:

We'll I bloody never, I wish Id known about your kit. Nevermind, there will be a next time Mr Bond... thx.

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No problem mate, if you have fitted that chinese kit you should be asking me for one in the next 11 days

The white seal kit is from ebay, the other is from xr8. Not bad but no piston.

Mark Piercy said:

The white seal kit is from ebay, the other is from xr8. Not bad but no piston.

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And no new piston cylinder
The more of my kits you buy the cheaper they get as i can do a deal on postage then
Those o-ring seals look ok in your kit from XR8 - did they fit ok?