North Wales Off roading experience

up for that rj - i can even tow you out..... when your disco breaks down. ( te he, harsh banter for a girl I know)

lets go to maelog lake hotel and you can all try the course round the back has anyone thought of knockin up a local club

Steady now!

Maelog lake Hotel? I know where that is. Didnt know there was a course round the back tho'

there is if its your local we just drive all over the dunes usually on bank holidays but hey what the hell

good god i just noticed it looks bad when you got MEMBER under you name

Pricey member?

few bank holidays coming up!

certainly is ,i will have to drive the route a bit to mark it out again

No - one chases you off then???

no not as yet some holiday makers stopped and watched us last time and killed themselves laughing and ther was three vehicles bombing about

All a bit too close to home for me I'd be run out of the village no doubt!

I know it's been refered to previously but is there an off road thing going in at Ty Croes circuit?

why wheres home if i am not being cheeky

Behind the maelog's a bit dodgy. there are signs on the roadside saying no vehicles so any do gooder will know straight away that you're not sposed to be there. Plus it's in full view of the road.
I'd heard a rumour about tycroes circuit but there's nowt on their website. Someone has marked out a track on the land opposite the tyn tywyn car park, think it probably belongs to bodorgan estates who also own the circuit.

2aTurbo said:

I have been off roading on a fairly large track in and arount the Moel Tryfan slate quarry near the small village of Fron (off the A487 after Caernarfon). The track appears to have been created by enthusiasts, and covers both common land, and private land. Does anyone know if using this track is legal? It is an amazing place for punishing a Land Rover, and I've enjoyed several afternoons of mud throwing there, but I am always nervous whenever I see the police helicopter pass overhead.

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Well worth a visit if your local, i need to get some pics or video up...

Aye but it int legal though is it???

not worth the risk if you ask me... stick to the lanes. leave the illegalities to the zuk drivers

This little rant might be of interest to you I know he's moaning about bikes but the fact is that there are people out there gathering details and passing them on to the police Dave's Walk Eryri Snowdonia Blog - TARRED AND FEATHERED 1 - Scrambler bikes

redhand said:

Aye but it int legal though is it???

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It is a disused quarry area, i think the area is owned by Caenarfonshire quarries and I think Hogans have a finger in the pie, no fields belonging to farmers to upset and no gates or no cars allowed or private signage also public footpaths and rights of way to ramblersa and public. It gets a lot of use with bikes and quads as well as 4x4 and divers..apparently it has been open to Joe public for years I am trying to find out who owns the area and get some answers off locals I will give more details when i find out....I think a few must go further into the mountains and national park from here which I agree is wrong and spoils it for others, I stay in around the quarry on slate and mud and do not venture up the hills where the walkers go..it would be good to find out legal ownership and bounderies and possibly have a legal place to go..

It belongs to MacAlpines. they took over ownership when They bought all the blaenau quarries. Couple of friends are members of the snowdonia society and the South Snowdonia MRT and used to run a B&B in Tan Y Grisiau They were always getting complaints from their other members of the Snowdonia Society about illegal Offroaders. Mainly Bikes going over the Moelwyns and the Cnicht. Don't forget it is illegal to drive on any land not forming part of a public highway without the permission of the landowner. That means the police have the right of prosecution regardless of whether or not a complaint has been made by the landowner.

redhand said:

It belongs to MacAlpines. they took over ownership when They bought all the blaenau quarries. Couple of friends are members of the snowdonia society and the South Snowdonia MRT and used to run a B&B in Tan Y Grisiau They were always getting complaints from their other members of the Snowdonia Society about illegal Offroaders. Mainly Bikes going over the Moelwyns and the Cnicht. Don't forget it is illegal to drive on any land not forming part of a public highway without the permission of the landowner. That means the police have the right of prosecution regardless of whether or not a complaint has been made by the landowner.

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Thanks for that ...from experience do you think there would be anything to be gained by contacting Macalpines for permission or do you simply get classed as an annoyance and deemed very antisocial...?..due to possibly what may or may not have gone on in the past..?

You could contact MacAlpines the local quarries in Bleanau will probably refer you to Head Office (London??) and they'll know nothing about the quarry or refuse point blank because if they give permission they become liable for any injuries or deaths. Try contacting the Caernarfon Slate Company as there was talk of them reopening the quarries in 2005/6 But it sort of went to the wall when MacAlpines rolled in. They may still hold the mineral/access rights.