Freelander 2 (LR2) Max tyre size?

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sergeantsodom

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Hi folks,

What's the max tyre width, depth and size on a stock freelander 2 that avoids rubbing or issues with suspension?

And if I go with the muddymods lift kit, does it drastically change the dimensions you can have (of course not width as this would stay the same lifted or not)

I won't touch spacers with a barge pole, but am looking for some offset wheels.

Ta

John
 
Stock tyres; Kind of answered that in post #2 on your thread here;


If you look on YouTube at Powerful UK, they fit a lift kit to an F2 and show you the measurements before and after 😉.
Remember, a lift kit will change the angles and wear your driveshafts quicker.
 
Hi folks,

What's the max tyre width, depth and size on a stock freelander 2 that avoids rubbing or issues with suspension?

And if I go with the muddymods lift kit, does it drastically change the dimensions you can have (of course not width as this would stay the same lifted or not)

I won't touch spacers with a barge pole, but am looking for some offset wheels.

Ta

John
On the muddy mods site, the grey FL2 on the KO2 tyres on the lift page looks to have 245/70R17's on. I'd suspect this is likely as big as you can go, but may still rub.

I think there is a chap on YouTube with slightly bigger, but he did have to do some cutting.

Remember a lift does not help under suspension compression. If you never plan to off road you may get away with too big a tyre. But even bumping down the curb will cause suspension compression. Off road the tyre will need to fit the same as it does on standard suspension.

As for spacers, your comment makes no sense really. The wheel bearing will be none the wiser between a spacer or wider offset rim. The end result will be the same.
 
No, because I’ve never done it.
But a simple google search will tell you a lift kit, with no further modifications, will stress other parts.

Assume you have proof it doesn’t?
So all vehicles use the same parts then or are you spouting generic nonsense?

Plenty of lifted Freelander 2's about. If it was a problem you'd likely here a lot more about it, plus see other supporting mods being sold by places like Muddy Mods......
 
So all vehicles use the same parts then or are you spouting generic nonsense?

Plenty of lifted Freelander 2's about. If it was a problem you'd likely here a lot more about it, plus see other supporting mods being sold by places like Muddy Mods......
Why you getting all hot and bothered?

I know there are plenty of lifted FL2s about - I never said there wasn’t, did I?

And some will see no difference. And some will eat up other components quicker and end up replacing driveshafts and the like. Entirely up to the individual what they do.

The OP has a stock FL, and was originally asking about what tyre sizes would fit on their stock FL2 on another thread, with no mods required. Then, asked about lift kits here.

Some further reading;




 
Why you getting all hot and bothered?

I know there are plenty of lifted FL2s about - I never said there wasn’t, did I?

And some will see no difference. And some will eat up other components quicker and end up replacing driveshafts and the like. Entirely up to the individual what they do.

The OP has a stock FL, and was originally asking about what tyre sizes would fit on their stock FL2 on another thread, with no mods required. Then, asked about lift kits here.

Some further reading;




Do any of them cite actual people having driveshaft and other component issue due to lifting the vehicle? If not, then all you are doing is posting FAKE News and not helping the op at all.
 
Well, I did find one review about issues due to vehicles being lifted… even “riding worse on the road” after.
Wait… that was you.

So, simply fitting a lift kit can cause issues then?



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Well, I did find one review about issues due to vehicles being lifted… even “riding worse on the road” after.
Wait… that was you.

So, simply fitting a lift kit can cause issues then?



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Oh very clever. :rolleyes: A real shame you aren't clever enough to note that a Freelander 2 is all independent suspension while a Defender is live axles. The Muddy Mods FL2 lift is also just a simple spacer lift above the struts, so does not impact spring rate, pre-load or damping.
 
Oh very clever. :rolleyes: A real shame you aren't clever enough to note that a Freelander 2 is all independent suspension while a Defender is live axles. The Muddy Mods FL2 lift is also just a simple spacer lift above the struts, so does not impact spring rate, pre-load or damping.

Yes, I know how the muddy mods lift kit works - thank you.
And I’m all grown up now, so know the difference between independent suspension and live axles 👍

Ok - you clearly believe that simply fitting a lift kit with no other changes would do nothing to the car long term, and not affect it in any way.
I disagree.

Let’s leave it there.
 
Do any of them cite actual people having driveshaft and other component issue due to lifting the vehicle? If not, then all you are doing is posting FAKE News and not helping the op at all.
You really are a **** aren't you?

We have had members on here install lift kits. Everything is fine for a bit, then their drive shafts have gone.

So crawl back in to the hole you spend most your time before coming out and showing yourself for the **** you are.
 
Hi folks,

What's the max tyre width, depth and size on a stock freelander 2 that avoids rubbing or issues with suspension?

And if I go with the muddymods lift kit, does it drastically change the dimensions you can have (of course not width as this would stay the same lifted or not)

I won't touch spacers with a barge pole, but am looking for some offset wheels.

Ta

John
A lift kit has no effect on tyre size, as the suspension gets in the way of larger tyres, not the bodywork.
You can go about 10mm wider on the standard offset rims, as larger will cause rubbing on the strut tube.

LR did extensive testing and chose the factory tyre size based on the testing results, so it'll be unlikely that you'll improve on the factory setup.
 
You really are a **** aren't you?

We have had members on here install lift kits. Everything is fine for a bit, then their drive shafts have gone.

So crawl back in to the hole you spend most your time before coming out and showing yourself for the **** you are.
Any examples? Must be far and few between. I've consider an FL2 and researched them a lot, out of the many many threads I read across various forums, I've not seen a single case. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I'd assume is very much the exception rather than the norm. And if it was the norm, I'd expect to see wide angle CV's being offered or some other sage advice on the listings for the lift kits, as there are more than one company who have developed and sell lift kits for these vehicles.

I would assume that no driveshafts have failed either or have people been snapping them and that it is 100% CV failure. Which unless you know the full history of the vehicle, is hard to say a definitive cause, i.e. if its done 170,000 miles and is remapped and driven hard, then a lift may well not be the defining point of the failure.


And lets not forget, Freddie here simply said..... "change the angles and wear your driveshafts quicker."

To which I asked for proof. And as of yet completely sweet F all has been provided. So please climb down from your hobby horse and refrain from calling me names on the simple basis I wasn't prepared to take someones word for it without any kind of evidence!
 
I've consider an FL2 and researched them
So, you’ve not actually lifted one either?


I'm not saying it doesn't happen
Ok, so you agree it can happen now?


To which I asked for proof. And as of yet completely sweet F all has been provided
Likewise. Or have you lifted an F2 now?
It’s a forum. We don’t need to offer ‘proof’ of everything - a lot of the help on here is based on learned and shared knowledge, even opinion.


The OP is new to F2’s, and just wanted a bit of a steer. There are risks involved. Which I indicated.


See paragraph “handling and drivetrain”


See paragraph “Exploring the drawbacks of lift kits”

See section “Suspension geometry”

Is that better for you - rather than F all?

Now, where’s your proof that if they simply fit a lift kit and nothing else, it will not affect anything at all on their stock F2?
 
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