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So are you the same David Phillips who used to have a page in Land Rover Owner International called "Rave On" ?

And who wrote an article about failing to leave your handbrake on or put the automatic vehicle into park, and it then rolled down the hill into someones gatepost while you were out of the vehicle ?



Yes, that's me. Only I didn't come up with the page title "Rave On". That was the idea of the deputy editor, who thought that I tended to rant and rave a bit. I don't know what gave him that impression.

And yes, the handbrake thing was me too. Being honest about doing something stupid or making a mistake. Which is something a few more people ought to do -- notably politicians.
 
Yes, that's me. Only I didn't come up with the page title "Rave On". That was the idea of the deputy editor, who thought that I tended to rant and rave a bit. I don't know what gave him that impression.

And yes, the handbrake thing was me too. Being honest about doing something stupid or making a mistake. Which is something a few more people ought to do -- notably politicians.

:D so what brings you to this terrible part of the Internet then as the article would have you believe?
 
Oh and do you know about Landy Zone International Rescue?
 
Just catching up. Was going to reply to everything, but with seven pages of comments, I realised there would probably be another seven pages by the time I had replied to each one. So I will try to answer most of the points raised.

First, yes it was me that wrote (in LRO) about the female member of an internet forum who had left in disgust because of the cyber-bullying she had received. I have no idea what forum she was on, as I wasn't a member of any Land Rover forum at the time, but I was concerned that the treatment she received was, apparently, so nasty that she gave up her interest in Land Rovers, too.
Was it Landy Zone? I don't know and I don't really care. I would suggest that it wasn't the forum, but the people on it at the time who were responsible.

Second, I have no control over adverts, subscriptions or anything else on LRM. I am a mere contributor to the magazine. But among my contributions is teh news pages, so like I said, if you have something you think might make a good news story -- for example if you are holding an off-road day for charity, or doing a sponsored greenlanes run.... or anything else that makes a good tale... just let me know.

Third, is the above spam? If so, sorry. But I thought a few people on here might find it useful to deal directly with teh person who puts together the news pages on a Land Rover magazine that's read by a lot of people. If you really want to get your message across to a lot of people, I'm giving you the conduit.

Four (and this is the last one), I've got to admit that I have had my doubts about internet forums in the past. For example, around 2004 I was involved in a fishing website forum which degenerated into a lot of personal abuse. And I don't like that.
But I do realise that the internet is increasingly becoming the place to communicate with others. For example, I can't remember the last time I wrote and posted a letter: these days I communicate mainly by email, but increasingly via Facebook and Twitter.
AND... therefore if I want to communicate with people who share my interest in Land Rovers, it seems pretty obvious that the place to do it is on the forums. Yes, I'm sure there are going to be some obnoxious tw*ts who talks bo***cks and attack other people for no good reason, but the same is true in all walks of life. A**holes exist everywhere, not just on forums.

I've got to admit I'm a bit surprised by the reaction to my appearance on the forum, but at least I got a welcome of sorts. So, if you don't like the idea of a Land Rover journalist on the forum, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I'm not the sort to get bullied, whether physically or the cyber kind. Get used to it.
 
Oh and do you know about Landy Zone International Rescue?

Bugger, I'm never going to catch up with the postings.

No, I didn't know about Landy Zone International Rescue. That sounds exactly like the sort of positive story that I could use and would give the Landy Zone community (and the wider Land Rover community) some really good PR at the same time.

Do you want to drop me an email ([email protected]) and talk about it?
 
Good for you Dave

there are a lot of suspicious characters on here :suspicious:
give as good as you get and if they don't like, tough ;)
 
Excellent response Dave, you are very welcome here. Many of us are suspiscous of newcomers who come on and talk about their business or books they wrote. You seem just the sort of person that has a lot to contribute to this forum, and could bring some benefits.

Cheers.
 
Just catching up. Was going to reply to everything, but with seven pages of comments, I realised there would probably be another seven pages by the time I had replied to each one. So I will try to answer most of the points raised.

First, yes it was me that wrote (in LRO) about the female member of an internet forum who had left in disgust because of the cyber-bullying she had received. I have no idea what forum she was on, as I wasn't a member of any Land Rover forum at the time, but I was concerned that the treatment she received was, apparently, so nasty that she gave up her interest in Land Rovers, too.
Was it Landy Zone? I don't know and I don't really care. I would suggest that it wasn't the forum, but the people on it at the time who were responsible.

Second, I have no control over adverts, subscriptions or anything else on LRM. I am a mere contributor to the magazine. But among my contributions is teh news pages, so like I said, if you have something you think might make a good news story -- for example if you are holding an off-road day for charity, or doing a sponsored greenlanes run.... or anything else that makes a good tale... just let me know.

Third, is the above spam? If so, sorry. But I thought a few people on here might find it useful to deal directly with teh person who puts together the news pages on a Land Rover magazine that's read by a lot of people. If you really want to get your message across to a lot of people, I'm giving you the conduit.

Four (and this is the last one), I've got to admit that I have had my doubts about internet forums in the past. For example, around 2004 I was involved in a fishing website forum which degenerated into a lot of personal abuse. And I don't like that.
But I do realise that the internet is increasingly becoming the place to communicate with others. For example, I can't remember the last time I wrote and posted a letter: these days I communicate mainly by email, but increasingly via Facebook and Twitter.
AND... therefore if I want to communicate with people who share my interest in Land Rovers, it seems pretty obvious that the place to do it is on the forums. Yes, I'm sure there are going to be some obnoxious tw*ts who talks bo***cks and attack other people for no good reason, but the same is true in all walks of life. A**holes exist everywhere, not just on forums.

I've got to admit I'm a bit surprised by the reaction to my appearance on the forum, but at least I got a welcome of sorts. So, if you don't like the idea of a Land Rover journalist on the forum, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. I'm not the sort to get bullied, whether physically or the cyber kind. Get used to it.

Now this is a personal opinion as a long time poster on LZ, the times things go wrong is when people expect paid for support, by this they expect the right person to answer their question instantly.

Now not signing up recently maybe Dave can tell us is there a welcome pm?
I have long said that a welcome pm explaining that the forum is run and used by enthusiasts.
That an introduction is polite before asking for help and if you venture in the anything goes section you should expect to receive as good as you give.

Many have been out to help people with problems expecting nothing more than a cup of tea for our assistance,

There is a network of regulars who will try to help you out if you break down near them.

I personally have been accused of being in "the group" and honestly there isn't a them and us, we all make mistakes sometimes and light hearted banter follows. We have people from all different countries,races and sections of society.

What I'm really saying is that LZ is different things to different people, some stay in the technical sections- which your notice are SPAM,PORN free and others venture into ANYTHING GOES which is like a biker pub.

Bottom line Dave is LZ is what you make of it, watch out for 110woman I hear she makes some superb cakes and has a nasty habit of telling people about her latest mouth watering cake when the shops are all closed.
 
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Good for you Dave

there are a lot of suspicious characters on here :suspicious:
give as good as you get and if they don't like, tough ;)

It's not that anyone is suspicious. Just treat strangers with caution. :D :D

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