LR3 Opinions.

[email protected] (Steve Grauman) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >Also "venture cam" (best said with American
> >accent)
>
> LOL! I hope you guys are better than me in that area. I can't sound British for
> the life of me. I always come out sounding Irish when I try, or like a Pikey.
> Steve Grauman

Now I understand! Beer makes me an American!

Rich

On 15 Oct 2004 07:52:25 -0700, [email protected] (Richard
Brookman) wrote:

>My wife said something similar about me the other day. Cutting.

I dread the day our respective partners all decide to form a fringe
organisation at Billing*

[* or any other show - we're thinking of not doing Billing next year]


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>Subject: Re: LR3 Opinions.
>From: Mother "@{mother} @"@101fc.net
>Date: 15/10/2004 16:08 GMT

<snip>[* or any other show - we're thinking of not doing Billing next year]

Why is that Martyn?



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On 15 Oct 2004 15:39:50 GMT, [email protected]nujon (AN6530) wrote:

><snip>[* or any other show - we're thinking of not doing Billing next year]
>
>Why is that Martyn?

I've long since lost my enthusiasm for 'just looking at Landies' and
tend to go to the shows to meet up with 'people'. Most of the people
I know and want to meet <g> go to other shows which aren't as much of
a circus, with friendlier organisers, more space, better safety and
adequate security. I sort of keep getting the feeling that Billing is
determined to filtch as much from my pockets as possible whilst giving
me progressively less in return compared to other shows.

Apart from Alex and Andy (ruftraks) - who only do Billing to my
knowledge - we have a far nicer time elsewhere and just don't know
whether we can endure another Billing for the limited gain of meeting
up with a few who don't do the other shows.

Mind, Alex owes me a drink - so my plans may change ;-)


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>Subject: Re: LR3 Opinions.
>From: Mother "@{mother} @"@101fc.net
>Date: 15/10/2004 18:26 GMT

<snip> we have a far nicer time elsewhere and just don't know
>whether we can endure another Billing for the limited gain of meeting
>up with a few who don't do the other shows.

Hmmmm - I think you just about summed up my own views nicely too



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[email protected] (Steve Grauman) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> >Also "venture cam" (best said with American
> >accent)
>
> LOL! I hope you guys are better than me in that area. I can't sound British for
> the life of me. I always come out sounding Irish when I try, or like a Pikey.
> Steve Grauman

Alright then, try saying "beer can, beer can, beer can" without
sounding like a Jamaican asking for some bacon

Dave

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:26:18 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On 15 Oct 2004 15:39:50 GMT, [email protected]nujon (AN6530) wrote:
>
>><snip>[* or any other show - we're thinking of not doing Billing next year]
>>
>>Why is that Martyn?
>
>I've long since lost my enthusiasm for 'just looking at Landies' and
>tend to go to the shows to meet up with 'people'. Most of the people
>I know and want to meet <g> go to other shows which aren't as much of
>a circus, with friendlier organisers, more space, better safety and
>adequate security. I sort of keep getting the feeling that Billing is
>determined to filtch as much from my pockets as possible whilst giving
>me progressively less in return compared to other shows.
>
>Apart from Alex and Andy (ruftraks) - who only do Billing to my
>knowledge - we have a far nicer time elsewhere and just don't know
>whether we can endure another Billing for the limited gain of meeting
>up with a few who don't do the other shows.
>
>Mind, Alex owes me a drink - so my plans may change ;-)

I was at Peterboro. You weren't about when I called at the rubber rope
stand.

Usually P'boro and Billing I go to. Mind you, I may start travelling
to the other ones once I get my SWB camperised

Alex

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:47:01 GMT, Alex <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Usually P'boro and Billing I go to. Mind you, I may start travelling
>to the other ones once I get my SWB camperised

I can recommend LRW at Eastnor Castle - not too fussy, they'd probably
even let you in...


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On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:44:32 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:47:01 GMT, Alex <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Usually P'boro and Billing I go to. Mind you, I may start travelling
>>to the other ones once I get my SWB camperised
>
>I can recommend LRW at Eastnor Castle - not too fussy, they'd probably
>even let you in...

Cheeky bugger. Get to bed.

Alex

> We've yet to
>have any major failures on a new Range. That's a BMW thing, though,
>from inception to construction.

That's the catch. The Range Rover is said to be very well built and very
reliable but it's more or less a product of BMW. Land Rover never had much of a
reliability record on their own, and while Ford's trucks tend to be 1,000% more
reliable than their cars, some of their products are still questionable.
Steve Grauman

>I have to admit, that if I had unlimited funds, I'd buy a Cayenne (with
>sports tuning pack) just for the hell of it.

It's a remarkablly competant vehicle, on road and off. You can view some very
basic development films here:
http://content3.us.porsche.com/prod/cayenne/cayenne_common.nsf/usaenglish/
cayenne_gallery_films?OpenDocument&sc=cayenneturbo.nsf
Steve Grauman

>My wife said something similar about me the other day.

LOL
Steve Grauman

>Now I understand! Beer makes me an American!

I can't drink some of the beers you folks enjoy. Really dark, bitter drafts
have never been my favorites. And no offense, but I'll take my cold, thank you.
Steve Grauman

Your really in a different world to me, because if it was made after 1984
and if it has a cat then it is not and never will be a vehicle for me, they
are all crap be they rolls royce, ferrari or whatever, the lot of them.

My series 3 can haul groceries and a lot more it can haul any of that modern
crap out of a ditch as well.

--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes


"Steve Grauman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >So, Steve, what is the main use you'll have with this new vehicle ?
>
> It's really for my mother. She needs something large enough to haul
groceries
> in and to (occasionally) be used to take our 2 dogs. I had her look at
wagons
> (the Audi Allroad and A4 and A6 Avant, Volvo S60 T5, BMW 3 and 5 series
> wagons...) but she likes the higher seating position of the SUVs. It
doesn't
> NEED to be a super-off roader but we want it to be competant enough for
minor
> off-pavement stints. However we do have a 2003 4Runner that's more than
> competant off-road for when we need it. She currently has a Lexus RX300
and
> isn't real keen on the newer RX330, and since the Toyota Highlander is
> essentially the same vehicle, we aren't bothering with it. She doesn't
want a
> second 4Runner (she thinks we should vary a little bit) and the Sequioa is
to
> large for her. And she didn't like the new BMW X3 or X5 very much, nor the
> Chevy Trailblazer/GMC Envoy, nor the Subaru Forester XT. So far she really
> likes the Cayenne/Toureag the best, with the XC90 a close second. We are
going
> tomorrow to test drive a 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee (with the Hemi!) and to
find
> out when the all-new 2005 Pathfinders will arrive so we can see one in
"the
> flesh". I was just wondering if we should bother to look at the LR3 while
we're
> at the auto-mall.
> Steve Grauman

Reliability is relative it depends what you are prepared to contribute to
it.

If it is still running after thirty years there has got to be something
going for it British Leyland and there reputation notwithstanding.

The less luxury, the less fripperies the longer and the better it will last,
and I should know my last motor was a limo.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes


"Steve Grauman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > We've yet to
> >have any major failures on a new Range. That's a BMW thing, though,
> >from inception to construction.
>
> That's the catch. The Range Rover is said to be very well built and very
> reliable but it's more or less a product of BMW. Land Rover never had much
of a
> reliability record on their own, and while Ford's trucks tend to be 1,000%
more
> reliable than their cars, some of their products are still questionable.
> Steve Grauman

There is beer and then there is beer, warm or cold whatever, if it is ****
weak you can keep it.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes


"Steve Grauman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> I can't drink some of the beers you folks enjoy. Really dark, bitter
drafts
> have never been my favorites. And no offense, but I'll take my cold, thank
you.
> Steve Grauman

>Your really in a different world to me, because if it was made after 1984
>and if it has a cat then it is not and never will be a vehicle for me, they
>are all crap be they rolls royce, ferrari or whatever, the lot of them

A pretty bold statement. Frankly I believe the more modern Defender 90 and 110
to be Land Rover's best vehicles. All the neccesary updates of today combined
with all the proven hardware of the past. The last 2 generations of Range Rover
have been gorgeous, competant vehicles. But the most recent version is the only
one I'd have any confidence in, build-wise.
Steve Grauman

On or around 16 Oct 2004 00:59:59 GMT, [email protected] (Steve Grauman)
enlightened us thusly:

>>I have to admit, that if I had unlimited funds, I'd buy a Cayenne (with
>>sports tuning pack) just for the hell of it.
>
>It's a remarkablly competant vehicle, on road and off. You can view some very
>basic development films here:
>http://content3.us.porsche.com/prod/cayenne/cayenne_common.nsf/usaenglish/
>cayenne_gallery_films?OpenDocument&sc=cayenneturbo.nsf
>Steve Grauman

I've bene reading about it in the Car magazine among others. Apparently you
can go on a desert-off-roading holiday in saudi, and play with cayennes in
the sand dunes... This of course costs, but not stupid money. I presume
Porsche hope that you'll buy one thereafter.

On or around Sat, 16 Oct 2004 00:44:32 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother}
@"@101fc.net> enlightened us thusly:

>On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:47:01 GMT, Alex <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Usually P'boro and Billing I go to. Mind you, I may start travelling
>>to the other ones once I get my SWB camperised
>
>I can recommend LRW at Eastnor Castle - not too fussy, they'd probably
>even let you in...

I might even get there next year - half these shows are a fecking long way
from here, and Eastnor is about the nearest.

>Apparently you
>can go on a desert-off-roading holiday in saudi, and play with cayennes in
>the sand dunes

I'm a Porsche enthusiast so I read quite a bit about it. They did extensive
sand testing with it before it was finalized for production, and it's
apparently quite good. It also seems very competant to handle rocky terrain and
just about anything else. I'd venture to say it's 85% as competant as a Disco
off-road, and 200% as competant ON road. Equipped with the air-suspension it's
capable of lapping sections of the Nurburgring faster than many sports sedans
and coupes, especially the 450 horsepower Cayenne Turbo.
Steve Grauman