look what i didnt find!

like the heading says look what i didnt find...............the lack of a sill.
thought i'd investigate after one of the kids said oooops when they stood on the crappy piece of plastic that attaches to the sill.
apparently the car passed its mot last year with sills like this... a years worth of rot i think not.......................dodgy mot more like






needless to say i've been busy,got some 100x60 box to replace crap sills now to clean up and prepare for fixing more pics to follow

been busy with welder ,for a second attempt at welding i dont think ive done bad.had to attach some plate to the end of box section to stop water and crud getting in and rotting from inside of box section.........



just got to clean up inner sill b pillar and anything else so i've got good clean metal to weld to...

#### me them sills are bad, best get chopping and welding before it falls in half

sweet

that should have flopped the mot and then some.

how can a tester fail it if its covered with a plastic cover ? not really structural anyway

dyte said:

how can a tester fail it if its covered with a plastic cover ?

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correct!

dyte said:

not really structural anyway

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how so, the body mounts are there seatbelt mounts, seats so deffo structural

yes but a mot tester IS NOT ALLOWED TO REMOVE any body trim/mouldins to check behind.
the critiriea states if it is not visible he may not remove covers and must give the benefit of doubt and pass and advise that item can not be checked due to the fitment of sill covers..etc same rule applies to wheel nuts/bolts when hub caps that cover them are fitted

Matt Baxter said:

correct!



how so, the body mounts are there seatbelt mounts, seats so deffo structural

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if the visible body mounts are in sound condition or have light surface corrosion which does not significantly weaken them you can pass and advise but there are "prescribed areas" ie seat belt mounts suspension mounts etc that are not allowed to have corrosion within a 30cm area of them in any direction .
so if you can visualise a globe 30cm in size around the mont there must be no severe corrosoin in that area

A rotten body mount is not failable unless the body is insecure!

thanks for that, ive only been testing for 15 years

Looking at pic 1 I would think the rot would be quite apparent on the underside of the sill? although Ive not seen a disco with the ill covers on for a while so couldn't be sure how much of the metal work would be seen?

JA3llis said:

A rotten body mount is not failable unless the body is insecure!

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But surely the body would be insecure if a rotten body mount wasn't securing it?

1 out of what 8 woudnt make the body insecure really

JA3llis said:

1 out of what 8 woudnt make the body insecure really

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Where do you MOT test? I'm bringing mine to you next time.

Page 138 read left to right
http://mottesters.co.uk/files/special notices/MOT Inspection Manual.pdf

JA3llis, you are correct but lookin at the pics as a tester i'd want to fail that, and as a vehicle presenter i'd want it failed

Matt Baxter said:

JA3llis, you are correct but lookin at the pics as a tester i'd want to fail that, and as a vehicle presenter i'd want it failed

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Corrosion within 30cms of a seat belt mount.

Id want to fail too but its hard where do you draw the line testers discretion at the end of the day

Now now children.....just wish I'd took a picture of the bottom of the dsill,cornflakes box taped in place covered in body filler then waxoyled.will post some pictures of the remnants tomorrow......didnt get to do any work done today due to the weather,have since acquired a big tarp so I'll be cracking on tomorrow.

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Now now children.....just wish I'd took a picture of the bottom of the dsill,cornflakes box taped in place covered in body filler then waxoyled.will post some pictures of the remnants tomorrow......didnt get to do any work done today due to the weather,have since acquired a big tarp so I'll be cracking on tomorrow.

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there you go if the tester cant see it because it has been monkeyed up then he cant do much about it scary eh