L322 Air Suspension conversion to Springs

How do you get around the fact you can't adjust the headlight aim when you load the rear?

To be honest on my older car's that I had without the adjuster in the car I still towed caravans with them and never had any problems and never got stopped. I'm not sure what your problem is with converting a range rover to springs is and why everyone is upset with it. Like someone said the car companies put alot of money into the suspension to get it perfect but almost everyone has problems with the air ride so people are taking alternative routes.

Older cars had different headlamp design. Newer cars with Euro "E" beam design like the range rover are required by law to have aim levelling, either done by the suspension or by a dial in the dash. A car converted to coil springs will have neither

Ok thanks, £400 is a much more sensible price for springs, £1000 is bloody stupid. Let us know how the £70 box goes.

Wayne Chapman said:

To be honest on my older car's that I had without the adjuster in the car I still towed caravans with them and never had any problems and never got stopped. I'm not sure what your problem is with converting a range rover to springs is and why everyone is upset with it. Like someone said the car companies put alot of money into the suspension to get it perfect but almost everyone has problems with the air ride so people are taking alternative routes.

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The EAS on my P38 has been trouble free for years but it does need maintenance, on the other hand I have had broken metal springs on 2 cars.

Yeah but 4 new springs are most likely going to last the life of the vehicle considering well my one is already 15 years old, could do the shocks at the same time and it will probably handle better. The pump alone is £400 odd

Russell 1 said:

Yeah but 4 new springs are most likely going to last the life of the vehicle considering well my one is already 15 years old, could do the shocks at the same time and it will probably handle better. The pump alone is £400 odd

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There is a refurbish kit available for the compressor for not a lot of money.
These cars are more a hobby than a means of transport, if you cannot DIY they will drain your wallet. Once you get it on springs, for sure it will not be long before other electronic gremlins arise.

Oh I was fully prepared for it to be a project car. I have not decided what to do with the suspension yet but I will watch this thread with interest.

Many thanks for all your views especially Wayne Chapman, the cheapest kit I could find on Ebay worked out at about £1000 and that includes the bypass unit, I am still undecided whether to go or stay?

I think you have to ask yourself why it was on air in the first place. Why all that expense cutting away at the profit line?

How heavy is the L322? Where is that weight distributed? What load can it carry at what speed? And that's before you get to the headlights and blinding other road users with a full boot.

Yes, other cars have springs but heavy cars like Discos need other tricks in the suspension to keep them stable and prevent passengers getting sea-sick. Unless you add those in you really will comprise the ride of your car. If you only drive locally at 50mph or less and maybe cross the odd muddy field then fine. Otherwise I would leave it as the team of engineers who designed it meant it to be.

Vehicle weight is a big thing here. A comfortable ride and the ability to take the max gross weight of the vehicle that also is safe to drive

Any successful spring conversions yet?

Russell 1 said:

Any successful spring conversions yet?

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More chance of me converting to Muslim. Once you understand the EAS system they can be maintained at a reasonable cost as long as you have a reasonable IQ and are a little bit handy.A kid can sort it.

Ok then, let me put your IQ to the test.
Why does my l322 jack itself up to the max , topping out the suspension when I put a trailer on?
This morning it was fine with the trailer but the nose weight was a little light, this causes bad handling, a bit fish tail like.
So this afternoon I put a little bit more weight on the hitch and it goes bloody mental pumping it's self up to the moon.

The answer, I think, is take all the air ****e off and get some coil springs.

Russell 1 said:

Ok then, let me put your IQ to the test.
Why does my l322 jack itself up to the max , topping out the suspension when I put a trailer on?
This morning it was fine with the trailer but the nose weight was a little light, this causes bad handling, a bit fish tail like.
So this afternoon I put a little bit more weight on the hitch and it goes bloody mental pumping it's self up to the moon.

The answer, I think, is take all the air ****e off and get some coil springs.

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I think I would be checking the height sensors,do you have diagnostics?

Russell 1 said:

Ok then, let me put your IQ to the test.
Why does my l322 jack itself up to the max , topping out the suspension when I put a trailer on?
This morning it was fine with the trailer but the nose weight was a little light, this causes bad handling, a bit fish tail like.
So this afternoon I put a little bit more weight on the hitch and it goes bloody mental pumping it's self up to the moon.

The answer, I think, is take all the air ****e off and get some coil springs.

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It does seem that finding the problem behind the odd behavior is more and more in need than chucking money at it and condemning a time proven system. You could hack it in and get a lovely Toyota prada/land cruiser instead?

I would love a Toyota land cruiser but the 90s ones are £10,000 for an old rotter and 2000-2005 are more like £15,000 and they have air

Russell 1 said:

I would love a Toyota land cruiser but the 90s ones are £10,000 for an old rotter and 2000-2005 are more like £15,000 and they have air

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You do need to get your bus looked at. It shouldn't do any of the problems your having. If you don't have any diagnostic tools then get some and it'll save you a ton of money and you'll soon be all over it and back in smiles for miles seat

I’m happy with my P38 on springs. Way I’ve done it atleast, is comfortable and capable.
BUT (a big but) go look or drive an L322 on springs - they are not right.
Don’t know wether it’s the weight, more likely how they assimilated the EAS more into the design. Like the live axle, replaced with the idea in mind that the EAS functions could cope with the lack of, for example.

RangeRoller dt said:

I’m happy with my P38 on springs. Way I’ve done it atleast, is comfortable and capable.
BUT (a big but) go look or drive an L322 on springs - they are not right.
Don’t know wether it’s the weight, more likely how they assimilated the EAS more into the design. Like the live axle, replaced with the idea in mind that the EAS functions could cope with the lack of, for example.

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How are you doing rrdt?