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FFS either you're shackle are too big or it int got recovery points and yer trying to put em thru the rong ole. post us a pic of yer shackles Wiv summat to compare em too, size wise (ruler or summat) and a pic of where ya trying to fit them.
 
A Razzle Steering Guard, with shackles.....

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ffs them shackles is just wayyyyy to small they would bend or worse snap and you aint gonna get a strop connected to them especially when they fill up with mud i took mine off that size and put the original recovery points back in place and put my shackles thru them,i had the next size up shackles from the ones on the pics and the bolt thru the middle just bends and you cant get it back out offroad recovery demands shackles that will take the force and strain of being pulled them ones in the pics look lovely but i certainly wouldnt use them for recovery
 
wiltshire landyman said:
ffs them shackles is just wayyyyy to small they would bend or worse snap and you aint gonna get a strop connected to them especially when they fill up with mud i took mine off that size and put the original recovery points back in place and put my shackles thru them,i had the next size up shackles from the ones on the pics and the bolt thru the middle just bends and you cant get it back out offroad recovery demands shackles that will take the force and strain of being pulled them ones in the pics look lovely but i certainly wouldnt use them for recovery
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Don't talk fooking stoopid. A landy weighs 2 tonnes. so with 2 shackles attached to a towing bridle that's one tonne of force on each shackle and that would be a dead pull with no co-efficient of friction applied. to bend shackles that size you'd have to be buried down to the bumper in a square edged hole. In which case. That would prove yur stoopidity because anyone wiv any intelligence wud hav dug it out a bit furst. then attempted the recovery. Or did ya try a snatch recovery on cheap chinese unrated shackles????
 
bridles have only just come into the topic now and imnot debating the fact that it would be sufficient,i was debating the fact of the size of the shackle on its own for recovery,imagine being in deep mud fiddleing underneath trying to find that size shackle and then cleaning all the mud out of it to connect a winch hook or a strop to it
 
but if you dont have a bridle but do have shackles/strops etc you need a good fixing point as most marshalls want to just pull up to you and connect there shackle/winch hook etc directly to you recovery point(if you dont have a bridle),which leads me back to my original question way back when will a jate ring fit if the guard is in place? as i suppose the guard is an extra 5-6mm thicker
 
No it wont fit because a jate ring fits to both sides of the chassis leg and then the bolt goes through the chassis. If you don't have a bridle fit 2 short strops or a length of chain or buy a recovery bridle and always fit it when you start offroading not when your bogged down in mud and have to grovel in it to get under the landy to attach a shackle.
 
wiltshire landyman said:
bridles have only just come into the topic now and imnot debating the fact that it would be sufficient,i was debating the fact of the size of the shackle on its own for recovery,imagine being in deep mud fiddleing underneath trying to find that size shackle and then cleaning all the mud out of it to connect a winch hook or a strop to it
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But you never use a single recovery point unless there really is no other option.
 
if i did have a bridle i certainly aint that dumb that i would attach it when im up to me arse in mud,i have a multitude of strops and shackles of all shapes and sizes so im sure i could do a make it fit job,just would have been easier with the jate rings,but now original question has been answerd which is no they wont fit
 
Excuse me ignorance, but i don't see how wee shakles are better than a proper tow hitch/jaw/pin/nato hitch etc, assuming its correctly installed?
Surely drilling two/4 holes and making a reinforcement plate would be better than worrying about the shakles?

Again, i know ive only scratched the surface of off roading, no pun intended, but being poor i can't afford a whole pile of straps etc, i have only ever used one 12ton snatch rope and one 12ton non strech rope, either over/round the rear tow point, which ever seemed best at the time, or round the front bumper, both sides or just one if that was easier/better, or round my newly fitted front tow ball thingy.

As i said, being a comparative newbie, and also poor, i am aware that this is probably not the BEST way of it, but is there ought wrong with it?
 
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