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Gary G Jones

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Well my local specialist (TJC) have confirmed the worst. My trusted
friend is dead.
The AA took him away this morning and it was confirmed this afternoon that
the turbo has blown itself to bits, causing the engine sump oil to go up and
around the engine and to just about anywhere else it could get too.
It still starts, just ,but makes lots of banging and clanking noises, so its
going to cost a lot to sort out, to much for me I am afraid.
So me and my trusted friend will be parting company.
Come on lottery win, this Saturday would be good.
As for those of you who also drive Tdi's if you know of a way to check
out the condition of the turbo then do so, sooner than later. Better still
if your turbo is getting on a bit ,then save up and get a new one fitted.
£500 or £600 might sound alot for a turbo but its a hell of a lot better
than the what's happened to mine.
I always used to worry about cam belts breaking, from now on I will worry
more about the turbo going.
Cheers
GGJ






 
Gary G Jones wrote:
> Well my local specialist (TJC) have confirmed the worst. My trusted
> friend is dead.
> The AA took him away this morning and it was confirmed this afternoon that
> the turbo has blown itself to bits, causing the engine sump oil to go up and
> around the engine and to just about anywhere else it could get too.
> It still starts, just ,but makes lots of banging and clanking noises, so its
> going to cost a lot to sort out, to much for me I am afraid.
> So me and my trusted friend will be parting company.
> Come on lottery win, this Saturday would be good.
> As for those of you who also drive Tdi's if you know of a way to check
> out the condition of the turbo then do so, sooner than later. Better still
> if your turbo is getting on a bit ,then save up and get a new one fitted.
> £500 or £600 might sound alot for a turbo but its a hell of a lot better
> than the what's happened to mine.
> I always used to worry about cam belts breaking, from now on I will worry
> more about the turbo going.
> Cheers
> GGJ


Where are you & what year is the car etc???
--

Subaru WRX
Range Rover 4.6 HSE (The Tank!)

We might be going on a summer holiday, the Greece Ball rally!!!!


 
West norfolk, 300tdi L reg,1995, Automatic 3 door

GGJ


 
On 2006-05-26, Gary G Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> if your turbo is getting on a bit ,then save up and get a new one fitted.
> £500 or £600 might sound alot for a turbo but its a hell of a lot better
> than the what's happened to mine.

Blimey, cost me £300 to replace the turbo on the plastic rocket, your
figures sound a tad high. Not sure what all the banging and clanking
you're getting though, if it's not coming from the turbo. If it is
coming from the turbo then you ought to be able to replace it for
cheaper than £500.

--
Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!
 

>
> Blimey, cost me £300 to replace the turbo on the plastic rocket, your
> figures sound a tad high. Not sure what all the banging and clanking
> you're getting though, if it's not coming from the turbo. If it is
> coming from the turbo then you ought to be able to replace it for
> cheaper than £500.
>
> --
> Blast off and strike the evil Bydo empire!

I was thinking more along the lines of if you are going to replace it ,then
what the hell, upgrade it while you are at it, better turbo, nice new
intercooler etc.
The banging and clanging is coming from what is now left of the engine,
could be just about anything, after it revved up to warp factor 8 it done
the head gasket and sorts of other damage.
GGJ


 

"Gary G Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well my local specialist (TJC) have confirmed the worst. My trusted
> friend is dead.
> The AA took him away this morning and it was confirmed this afternoon that
> the turbo has blown itself to bits, causing the engine sump oil to go up
> and around the engine and to just about anywhere else it could get too.
> It still starts, just ,but makes lots of banging and clanking noises, so
> its going to cost a lot to sort out, to much for me I am afraid.
> So me and my trusted friend will be parting company.
> Come on lottery win, this Saturday would be good.
> As for those of you who also drive Tdi's if you know of a way to check
> out the condition of the turbo then do so, sooner than later. Better still
> if your turbo is getting on a bit ,then save up and get a new one fitted.
> £500 or £600 might sound alot for a turbo but its a hell of a lot better
> than the what's happened to mine.
> I always used to worry about cam belts breaking, from now on I will worry
> more about the turbo going.
> Cheers
> GGJ
>

Well driven turbo's on diesel engines usually last the life of the engine.
10,000 hours or 300,000 miles is not unusual. I know plenty of TDi engines
that have exceeded 200,000 miles with no turbo problems.
Some drivers manage to wreck turbo's on a regular basis. Go figure.

Huw


 

>
> Well driven turbo's on diesel engines usually last the life of the engine.
> 10,000 hours or 300,000 miles is not unusual. I know plenty of TDi engines
> that have exceeded 200,000 miles with no turbo problems.
> Some drivers manage to wreck turbo's on a regular basis. Go figure.
>
> Huw
The annoying thing is that anyone who had driven my disco had always said
how great it ran and how smooth everything was. It always used to fly
through the emissions testing at mot time, it didn't smoke at all while
running, one small puff when starting from cold and that was it.
It never even used any oil, more amazing it did not even drip oil like most
land rovers do from various places.
I can honestly say that up until the turbo killing it off the engine has
been fantastic. It had been serviced regular, more than it actually needed
to be but its all over now , its had it.
Oh well. I should have stuck with the non turbo ex-army waterproofed and
winterised I had rather than going for that bit of luxury of the discovery,
or better still the the series 3
I started off with many moons ago .
Only one thing for it now, lottery numbers come up and I get the discovery
fixed, then shoot up to the local land rover dealer and get a nice new
Defender, and maybe a disco 3 for good measure.

GGJ




 
On Friday, in article <[email protected]>
hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk "Huw" wrote:

> Well driven turbo's on diesel engines usually last the life of the engine.
> 10,000 hours or 300,000 miles is not unusual. I know plenty of TDi engines
> that have exceeded 200,000 miles with no turbo problems.
> Some drivers manage to wreck turbo's on a regular basis. Go figure.

What usually kills a turbo is a problem in the oil supply, since the
turbo bearings are a film of oil rather than any metal-to-metal contact.

When I first drove turbopcharged vehicles the owners' manuals made a big
thing of careful starting and stopping of the engine.

--
David G. Bell -- SF Fan, Filker, and Punslinger.

"I am Number Two," said Penfold. "You are Number Six."
 

"Gary G Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]...
>
>>
>> Well driven turbo's on diesel engines usually last the life of the
>> engine. 10,000 hours or 300,000 miles is not unusual. I know plenty of
>> TDi engines that have exceeded 200,000 miles with no turbo problems.
>> Some drivers manage to wreck turbo's on a regular basis. Go figure.
>>
>> Huw
> The annoying thing is that anyone who had driven my disco had always said
> how great it ran and how smooth everything was. It always used to fly
> through the emissions testing at mot time, it didn't smoke at all while
> running, one small puff when starting from cold and that was it.
> It never even used any oil, more amazing it did not even drip oil like
> most land rovers do from various places.
> I can honestly say that up until the turbo killing it off the engine has
> been fantastic. It had been serviced regular, more than it actually needed
> to be but its all over now , its had it.
> Oh well. I should have stuck with the non turbo ex-army waterproofed and
> winterised I had rather than going for that bit of luxury of the
> discovery, or better still the the series 3
> I started off with many moons ago .
> Only one thing for it now, lottery numbers come up and I get the discovery
> fixed, then shoot up to the local land rover dealer and get a nice new
> Defender, and maybe a disco 3 for good measure.
>
> GGJ
Sorry to hear its gone west mind you there are a good few 300tdi engines
about from scrappers so you never can tell you might get lucky. Personally
if that Deadly bloke gets the numbers right I'm up for an Overfinch Disco I
saw then I buy back my old Rangie and she gets the same treatment and the
current Disco gets the new 3 litre V8 diesel for play days easy peasy
Derek
Disco 200TDi


 

"Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Gary G Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:p[email protected]...
>>
>>>
>>> Well driven turbo's on diesel engines usually last the life of the
>>> engine. 10,000 hours or 300,000 miles is not unusual. I know plenty of
>>> TDi engines that have exceeded 200,000 miles with no turbo problems.
>>> Some drivers manage to wreck turbo's on a regular basis. Go figure.
>>>
>>> Huw
>> The annoying thing is that anyone who had driven my disco had always said
>> how great it ran and how smooth everything was. It always used to fly
>> through the emissions testing at mot time, it didn't smoke at all while
>> running, one small puff when starting from cold and that was it.
>> It never even used any oil, more amazing it did not even drip oil like
>> most land rovers do from various places.
>> I can honestly say that up until the turbo killing it off the engine has
>> been fantastic. It had been serviced regular, more than it actually
>> needed to be but its all over now , its had it.
>> Oh well. I should have stuck with the non turbo ex-army waterproofed and
>> winterised I had rather than going for that bit of luxury of the
>> discovery, or better still the the series 3
>> I started off with many moons ago .
>> Only one thing for it now, lottery numbers come up and I get the
>> discovery fixed, then shoot up to the local land rover dealer and get a
>> nice new Defender, and maybe a disco 3 for good measure.
>>
>> GGJ
> Sorry to hear its gone west mind you there are a good few 300tdi engines
> about from scrappers so you never can tell you might get lucky. Personally
> if that Deadly bloke gets the numbers right I'm up for an Overfinch Disco
> I saw then I buy back my old Rangie and she gets the same treatment and
> the current Disco gets the new 3 litre V8 diesel for play days easy peasy
> Derek
> Disco 200TDi
>
spotted this tread on LRO hope it helps
Derek
http://threads.lro.com/cgi-bin/wwwt...bits&Number=793519&page=4&view=collapsed&sb=5


 
In message <[email protected]>
Ian Rawlings <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 2006-05-26, Gary G Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > if your turbo is getting on a bit ,then save up and get a new one fitted.
> > £500 or £600 might sound alot for a turbo but its a hell of a lot better
> > than the what's happened to mine.
>
> Blimey, cost me £300 to replace the turbo on the plastic rocket, your
> figures sound a tad high. Not sure what all the banging and clanking
> you're getting though, if it's not coming from the turbo. If it is
> coming from the turbo then you ought to be able to replace it for
> cheaper than £500.
>

£381.87 inc VAT & delivery - new Genuine Garret jobbie.

Richard
--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone?
Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay
 
In message <[email protected]>
"Huw" <hedydd[nospam]@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>
> "Gary G Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Well my local specialist (TJC) have confirmed the worst. My trusted
> > friend is dead.
> > The AA took him away this morning and it was confirmed this afternoon that
> > the turbo has blown itself to bits, causing the engine sump oil to go up
> > and around the engine and to just about anywhere else it could get too.
> > It still starts, just ,but makes lots of banging and clanking noises, so
> > its going to cost a lot to sort out, to much for me I am afraid.
> > So me and my trusted friend will be parting company.
> > Come on lottery win, this Saturday would be good.
> > As for those of you who also drive Tdi's if you know of a way to check
> > out the condition of the turbo then do so, sooner than later. Better still
> > if your turbo is getting on a bit ,then save up and get a new one fitted.
> > £500 or £600 might sound alot for a turbo but its a hell of a lot better
> > than the what's happened to mine.
> > I always used to worry about cam belts breaking, from now on I will worry
> > more about the turbo going.
> > Cheers
> > GGJ
> >
>
> Well driven turbo's on diesel engines usually last the life of the engine.
> 10,000 hours or 300,000 miles is not unusual. I know plenty of TDi engines
> that have exceeded 200,000 miles with no turbo problems.
> Some drivers manage to wreck turbo's on a regular basis. Go figure.
>
> Huw
>
>

Agreed - I'd venture that the turbo failed due to lack of oil caused by
the run-away rather than causing the failure. The vast majority of
requests for new turbos we get are fixed by mending he associated
plumbing rather than replacing the unit - the remainder almost always
being due low (read no) oil.

Richard

--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
RISC-OS - Where have all the good guys gone?
Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay
 

"> Agreed - I'd venture that the turbo failed due to lack of oil caused by
> the run-away rather than causing the failure. The vast majority of
> requests for new turbos we get are fixed by mending he associated
> plumbing rather than replacing the unit - the remainder almost always
> being due low (read no) oil.
>
> Richard


I'll second that, my bet is still a blown head gasket that caused the
run-away and lack of oil.

Regards
Jeff


 

>
>
> I'll second that, my bet is still a blown head gasket that caused the
> run-away and lack of oil.
>
> Regards
> Jeff

I will agree, I would take a chance that on my disco the head gasket decided
to go first followed by the turbo and like you say this caused the runaway
engine to suck up its oil and destroy itself in about 10 seconds flat. Only
thing I will guarantee is that the oil levels were all at the correct levels
before the 10 second nightmare.
Anyone after a couple of new head light adjustment motors, as I have 2 of
them here, I was going to replace my old ones today.Free if you want to pick
them up.

GGJ


 
probably too late but ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/300TDI-Engine-Assembly_W0QQitemZ4644441276QQcategoryZ31348QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
300tdi 114k
Derek

"Gary G Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well my local specialist (TJC) have confirmed the worst. My trusted
> friend is dead.
> The AA took him away this morning and it was confirmed this afternoon that
> the turbo has blown itself to bits, causing the engine sump oil to go up
> and around the engine and to just about anywhere else it could get too.
> It still starts, just ,but makes lots of banging and clanking noises, so
> its going to cost a lot to sort out, to much for me I am afraid.
> So me and my trusted friend will be parting company.
> Come on lottery win, this Saturday would be good.
> As for those of you who also drive Tdi's if you know of a way to check
> out the condition of the turbo then do so, sooner than later. Better still
> if your turbo is getting on a bit ,then save up and get a new one fitted.
> £500 or £600 might sound alot for a turbo but its a hell of a lot better
> than the what's happened to mine.
> I always used to worry about cam belts breaking, from now on I will worry
> more about the turbo going.
> Cheers
> GGJ
>
>
>
>
>
>


 
On Fri, 26 May 2006 19:49:35 +0100, "Gary G Jones"
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Well my local specialist (TJC) have confirmed the worst. My trusted
>friend is dead.

<snipped>

>Cheers
>GGJ


Gary,

Do you have contact details for TJC, that's Tony's business isn't it?
I used to have his address and phone number, but he moved premises and
I no longer have any other details.

Would be most appreciated.

Neil

harven53 at btopenworld dot com will get to me.

(Reply via NG please)
 

>
>
> Gary,
>
> Do you have contact details for TJC, that's Tony's business isn't it?
> I used to have his address and phone number, but he moved premises and
> I no longer have any other details.
>
> Would be most appreciated.
>
> Neil
>
> harven53 at btopenworld dot com will get to me.
>
> (Reply via NG please)


Hi Neil , this is it


TJC Landrovers
Fitters Workshop
Manor Farm
Weasenham
Norfolk PE32 2TF

http://www.tjclandrovers.co.uk/

Cheers Gary


 
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:34:43 +0100, "Gary G Jones"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>>
>>
>> Gary,
>>
>> Do you have contact details for TJC, that's Tony's business isn't it?
>> I used to have his address and phone number, but he moved premises and
>> I no longer have any other details.
>>
>> Would be most appreciated.
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> harven53 at btopenworld dot com will get to me.
>>
>> (Reply via NG please)
>
>
>Hi Neil , this is it
>
>
>TJC Landrovers
>Fitters Workshop
>Manor Farm
>Weasenham
>Norfolk PE32 2TF
>
>http://www.tjclandrovers.co.uk/
>
>Cheers Gary
>
Thanks Gary.

Much appreciated.

Neil

(Reply via NG please)
 
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