I'm Impressed

Evening,

My new glowplugs arrived this morning, so I greased them up, took my old ones out (one of which had a bigger nut and a longer thread, most of which were extremely short) cleaned the terminals and whammed these ones in. It started straight up after 9 seonds of heating! Not a splutter nor a cough. I had been having to wait 30 seconds with my old plugs, and it'd still take a bit of winding up.

My N/A is sexy again
-Pos

I'm a land rover virgin and have recently bought a defender 200 TDi, I didn't know you had to wait before turning the starter only ever driven cars (mostly petrol) ever since I have had the defender I have turned on the ignition and the starter straight away and it has always started first time so I thought this was OK, am I doing anything wrong by starting it without a delay?

Dunno bout that, but had a doozul before, got instrument light issues, so i just wait 'till me fuel light goes off before startin', Btw, the big relay under the bonnet( which i presumeis for the startin' business, isn't connected to anythin'!!! I can only presume that sumbody has redirected summit. Apart from that, it starts up furst time evert time

Hi ormondstreet I am as far from an expert as can be but when I got my 200tdi fitted I was told you don't need to wait for the glowplugs on a 200Tdi unless it is about -15C. I may well be wrong but I am just passing on what I was told by my garage.

pos said:

Evening,

I had been having to wait 30 seconds with my old plugs, and it'd still take a bit of winding up.

-Pos

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Nice one Pos, was it relativly easy to fit them. Mine (at the last count) took 23 seconds for the relay to go 'ding'. so I'm thinking I night do mine, well, more like add it to the bottom of the existing list.

Thanks

on the 200/300 engined vehicles there is no need to use the glow plugs as they are instant starters, if glow plugs are required to start them there is something wrong.

i replaced my glow plugs not long ago i used to heat them(the old ones) up for about 17-20seconds and it whould fire up right away with the new ones in i useally heat them for about the same time as you and cha ching , she fires up all nice and lovely like although i do still get a puff of smoke for about 2seconds after that shes fine.
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mystic

My N/A starts up pretty quickly without any warming up. Just a couple of seconds on the key and some throtle(sp)?

I doubt they've been changed in a while, nothing else has.
Ade

dirty hands said:

Nice one Pos, was it relativly easy to fit them. Mine (at the last count) took 23 seconds for the relay to go 'ding'. so I'm thinking I night do mine, well, more like add it to the bottom of the existing list.

Thanks

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Hi Dirty Hands,

Yes it's very easy to do:

1. Disconnect the negative terminal on your battery (I forgot to do this, and it doesn't seem to have caused any problems)
2. Unscrew the little nut on each of the glowplugs that holds the wire contacts / o rings in place
3. Take the wire contacts off the outer thread on the glowplugs and clean any residue off them with a rag
4. Remove the glowplug with a socket set (just like you would a spark plug)
5. Apply a bit of copper grease to the new glowplug thread, and screw into the engine, making sure not to over tighten
6. Re-fit wire contacts to the glowplug outer thread
7. Re-fit small nut to hold wire contacts in place
8. Re-connect negative battery terminal if you disconnected it

It's that simple, and it only took about 30 mins tops. Good results too!
-Pos

mystic said:

i replaced my glow plugs not long ago i used to heat them(the old ones) up for about 17-20seconds and it whould fire up right away with the new ones in i useally heat them for about the same time as you and cha ching , she fires up all nice and lovely like although i do still get a puff of smoke for about 2seconds after that shes fine.
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mystic

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Pretty much the same for me now! Good stuff
-Pos

Alane said:

My N/A starts up pretty quickly without any warming up. Just a couple of seconds on the key and some throtle(sp)?

I doubt they've been changed in a while, nothing else has.
Ade

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Throttle!

You're lucky if it starts without having to pre-warm

pretty much in the same boat with my n/a have to heat it foe15/20 seconds still a bit lumpy and smokes abit then settles down.even worse if its only warmed for 10 secs so nw glow plugs it is.

It doesn't actually take any winding up after the 9 second glow either, it just starts straight up and runs smooth!

in my series days i had to hold the key to the 'heat' position to energise the glow plugs for abt 12 sec in the morning before i could start the engine. this was totally a manual start but it was certaintly very reliable.

in the td5 days (electronic start), i usually wait for 2 sec before the glow plug lamp goes off and then crank without any throttle. sometimes i just wait a lil longer for the fuel pump to 'settle' before cranking. never failed to start.

My TD stoped starting about febuary, just wouldent fire up.

Four new glow plugs later, best ive ever knowen it.

i did this the other day, four new glowplus to my 1987 TD.

didnt copper grease the thread though, will this cause any problems?

Copper greasing them makes it really easy to take them out and swap them when you need a set of new ones. You're best doing it if you can otherwise they'll stick in their holes like bastards! The only reason i can think of they you need to use copper grease specificaly is to maintain a current through the glowplug into the engine (earth). Obviously, if you haven't applied any grease, the glowplugs are contacting the thread directly and thus are earthed anyway!

-Pos

Alane said:

My N/A starts up pretty quickly without any warming up. Just a couple of seconds on the key and some throttle(sp)?

I doubt they've been changed in a while, nothing else has.
Ade

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Well Alain, you are probably lucky so far.

Some freezing cold morning it might not be so keen to fire up.
The ONLY safe way on a cold morning is a good GLOW, NO throttle, and turn the key till it fires up. THEN catch it on the throttle to a fast tickover.

This is a function built in to the Lucas CAV DPS type pump which automatically injects a greater quantity of fuel on start-up, BUT ONLY IF the throttle pedal is not pressed.

CharlesY

i always depress the clutch and pump the gas wen starting, duno why really just habbit i guess. so i would be better off not touching the accelerator?

new glow plugs in lovely and pump timing altered a wee bit starts jist fine now.just a new battery for the winter to get.