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Yes, GPs were incentivised to prescribe statins here in the UK from about 2015.
Despite their popularity and their now being associated with a multi-billion dollar a year industry, the relative risk reduction from taking statins is modest. For example this review of 21 other studies says as much: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2790055
 
Stanleysteamer said:
This tends to reinforce what I found when it was suggested I take them a few years back.
I already have tinnitus. I did for a while take the (what used to be called "baby") aspirin after I had a heart "flutter" don't anymore. Anyway, W will do her own research, but as she already takes so many pills I doubt she'll go fo it.
We also heard that docs prescribe them because quite simply they get a certain amount of money for each one prescribed, if that makes sense.
Who knows? I think I'll stay off them.
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Yes, there is a "bounty" paid for statin-ising each person, also one for flu-shots and Covid jabs.
 
DanClarke said:
No, but It is all Solar panels and heat pump. They are still settling the system down. All rooms/areas have their own heating controls. Everything is obviously brand new and spiffingly top quality. They are still "snagging" the house in many areas but it is a huge house with a huge garden and their Staffy is in 7th heaven.
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Bizarrely our ex s-i-l came over day before yessdi and he was talking about a customer who asked him to come over as he has a heat pump and it couldn't handle heating the water and the house. If it did heat the house, it could only manage the ground floor. He was saying , as many do, that ground source works better, (he himself built a house for his family with this in which had to go when he got divorced) but that airsourced heat pumps are no flipping good in this country.
As I think many of you know, we have electric underfloor heating in Frogland. It is good but not cheap to run. We put it on as little as possible. Which fortunately is rarely. But the only sensible solution for people like us who only live there 6 months a year.
It'll be interesting to see how it settles down.;)
 
Have we had any gp doctors come oot and confirm they is given cash or other incentives to prescribe certain drugs? How would they know they have done so? They would need access to the prescription service to know. Unless they see a large user like a hospital and give oot holiday vouchers or other, as medial staff leave the building, because that building has taken delivery of said drugs.
 
Hippo said:
Have we had any gp doctors come oot and confirm they is given cash or other incentives to prescribe certain drugs? How would they know they have done so? They would need access to the prescription service to know. Unless they see a large user like a hospital and give oot holiday vouchers or other, as medial staff leave the building, because that building has taken delivery of said drugs.
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Hippo said:
Have we had any gp doctors come oot and confirm they is given cash or other incentives to prescribe certain drugs? How would they know they have done so? They would need access to the prescription service to know. Unless they see a large user like a hospital and give oot holiday vouchers or other, as medial staff leave the building, because that building has taken delivery of said drugs.
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Found this, which is at least interesting. Also re other drugs etc such as the "problems" older people have with higher blood pressure. Which W is also having to deal with from her new GP.

www.patrickholford.com

How GPs are Paid to Prescribe Ineffective Drugs - Patrick Holford

GPs are prescribing far too many pills. Most people know that and Dr James LeFanu, Telegraph columnist, makes this clear in his just published book ‘Too Many Pills’. ";s:13:"summary_title";s:0:"";s:11:"summary_lft";s:0:"
www.patrickholford.com www.patrickholford.com
 
In the UK there was a policy called the Quality and Outcomes Framework which incentivised doctors for screening and treating a variety of conditions, not just statins, but these got included in the later years of the project. An evaluation of the project in the Lancet in 2016 concluded that there was little effect https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(16)00276-2/fulltext Of course, that's nearly 8 years old now, but I don't think the situation has got any better.
 
Hippo said:
Yup. He has spect for da ippo. He will be spotted for the style of posting and ip address. Given time will over step the rules. Yer can have a normal serious conversation wiv him. Has popped back loads of times over the years like this. Can be quite entertaining and a laff. He's not gay but he's the 'is bob gay' one in polls. He's a top wind up merchant. Others will claim to be reeling him in or winding him up. Load of rubbish. He's well in control of the banter. Bob is a free spirit who can live wivoot lz and has many one liners and put downs. He's no harm but lz has cleaned up over the last 10 years so daft jokes outside of AG will be frowned on. AG has become far too political over recent years so far less humour and fun like years ago. Bit direct wiv his words. Iffit's a rust bucket yer looking to repair he will tell yer the truth. If yer can't weld he'll point it oot. The wannabee top dogs on ere won't like him attracting all the attendtion. Bobs a real person who gets paid for farm work, helping oot and shooting. Lives a way of life many on ere dream of.
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Salt of the earth nowt the matter with that could do with some in the government
 
Hippo said:
Been chopping. M and S have a coat burrits gorra hud. They ain't gorra medium so eye haster go back. Looked around town. Not been fer years. Lots of chops changed. Tis a shame to see the old ones go like bhs and debernums. Replaced wiv coffy bars and fone chops. Also cheap chops wiv coats wivoot an inside pocket fer security.
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Can you still get duffel coats in the UK ??
 
DanClarke said:
Statins are )IMHO) a big pharma driven con. Do some research on PubMed. Look up Number Needed to Harm.
Overall one important study found that 10 years on statins (with all the attendant side-effect risks) extended the patients lifespan by on average 2 weeks. Worth it? I don't think so. But that's just me.
75mcg daily aspirin: Makes the blood less sticky. Hmmmm..... Common side effect is tinnitius.
I got Tinnitus in the 1st year of Aspirin. Went to Drs. "Ahhh yes that's the aspirin". If I stop will it go away?
"No, we don't know why but it triggers Tinnitus and you are stuck with it, but on balance better to have non-sticky blood and ringing ears to keep you awake at night". Really? YMMV of course, but I wish I had told them to shove their "medicines protocol" where the Sun doesn't shine. :mad: 😢
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aspirin didn't give me tinnitus I had it years before I started taking them to Mutch shooting and kangos
 
If medicines do you good, then taking more must be good for you, surely? Er, no.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33144598/ "polypharmacy was associated with a higher risk of hospitalization and all-cause death among elderly individuals" It's not entirely because sicker people take more medication either. They say they controlled for co-morbidities.
 
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