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Steve Ashworth

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Anyone know what angle s Series IIa can safely traverse without any risk of rollover.
Was down a field in mine today picking up logs. Had logs on back up to just over top of tub.; bulky rather than heavy. Traversed up hill OK but at top had to turn sharper up hill to get out of gate. Didnt feel comfortable although wheels didnt lift. As leaf springs are not great it felt as though body was listing a bit.
Looking as the field is isnt really that steep but being used to driving on tarmac it did feel strange!
Therefore looking for any guidance on safe angles before I end up somewhere I regret!
Cheers,
Steve
 
try to remain upright when seated. If your head touched the side window then your probably pretty close :)

The top of the tub is generally accepted as the best place for weight, keep it below this. Also known as the "swag line" IIRC.

Doesnt sound like you have anything to worry about.

G
 
Steve Ashworth said:
Anyone know what angle s Series IIa can safely traverse without any risk of rollover.
Was down a field in mine today picking up logs. Had logs on back up to just over top of tub.; bulky rather than heavy. Traversed up hill OK but at top had to turn sharper up hill to get out of gate. Didnt feel comfortable although wheels didnt lift. As leaf springs are not great it felt as though body was listing a bit.
Looking as the field is isnt really that steep but being used to driving on tarmac it did feel strange!
Therefore looking for any guidance on safe angles before I end up somewhere I regret!
Cheers,
Steve
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could always get a shogun they has a inca-meter :rolleyes:
 
About 10 degrees. That is, if you drive it badly you can tip it at 10 degrees. You are unlikely to tip a vehicle bemuse the angle is to steep (you'll chicken out first) but because you are doing something wrong, going too fast, bouncing over a rabbit hole or rock, loading the vehicles too high, steering the wrong way. All sorts of things. If it doesn't feel right get off the slope (down hill not up) immediately.
 
10 degrees doesn't sound much at all - sure you dont mean 10%!

No - I take your point about speed/conditions etc. I am only talking low speed manouvres in a tight spot, sub 10mph.

I just dont know the vehicles capabilities and what it is designed to deal with.

Buckshot mentions Shogun inca meter which suggests there is a designed safety limit, subject to your comments on conditions.

I am not looking to do anything stupid ; on the contrary I am trying to find out first but struggling to find info or pictures etc.

Cheers,
Steve
 
Steve Ashworth said:
10 degrees doesn't sound much at all - sure you dont mean 10%!

No - I take your point about speed/conditions etc. I am only talking low speed manouvres in a tight spot, sub 10mph.

I just dont know the vehicles capabilities and what it is designed to deal with.

Buckshot mentions Shogun inca meter which suggests there is a designed safety limit, subject to your comments on conditions.

I am not looking to do anything stupid ; on the contrary I am trying to find out first but struggling to find info or pictures etc.

Cheers,
Steve
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Fink he means inclinometer. IIRC LR reckons on 45% on a side slope but there are too many variables to set a definite angle.
 
agree with Davec. you will be bricking it long before you actually roll it over. I have had my 90 on some bad stuff with a roof tent fitted. I brick it everytime. I now know what it can do and hope to never find out what it cant do! Just keep the weight low, you will be fine :)
 
Thanks,

45 degrees sounds pretty impressive. I think it was probably suspension settling on lower side (also drivers side) that was unsettling me rather than the angle.

I am carrying wood logs but keep load not much higher than tub top. I guess then it is time for me to be bolder - but I will take clean underwear!!

Cheers,
Steve
 
No I meant 10 degrees, and in some circumstances 10 mph is too fast!
Having said that I have driven a Range Rover at 45 degrees, and regularly drive various vehicles at 30 - 35.
 
Thanks Allan,

Hope I dont reach 45 degrees - thats pretty severe. Mind you I doubt I will be on terrain rough enough or be top heavy enough to roll at 10 degeees - at any speed.

Cheers,
Steve
 
Motorways sides were quite often not any steeper than 45 degrees I was told thats because Police spec RRC's could drive around anything in an emergency. But them days have passed me thinks Too much red tape actually doing somthing to get a result they might actually achieve somthing!
 
I think once the corner of the roof starts passing the vertical line of the opposite corner of the bottom of the body you're getting in trouble. I got stuck on the biggest lean I've been on and I had to stand on the drivers door to get out. Surprising how heavy those doors are when they're almost above you.
 

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Locky1978 said:
I think once the corner of the roof starts passing the vertical line of the opposite corner of the bottom of the body you're getting in trouble. I got stuck on the biggest lean I've been on and I had to stand on the drivers door to get out. Surprising how heavy those doors are when they're almost above you.
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Thats a dam good effort. I don't think i would have the guts to get close to that
 
ive always understood and gone off the limmit of 45 degrees from flat level surface ( ie a workshop floor) and to be on the safe side never past 40 degrees on any other ground

one thing i have noticed is that the inclinometer pod from a shogun or l200 sits on the dash on a little level ledge possibly only 1 or 2 degrees forward or back difference from the shelf on a series dashboard or similar

this pod also contains a digital clock and digital thermometer and the centre part of the pod is a battery charge ammeter wich can all be easily cocked about with to work in a tratter

what i used to do with the inclinometer in the l200 when i had it was whenever i got the vehicle tilted to a steep angle and started bricking it id mark the gauge with a dot of tippex where the needle or level line was so i know i can reach that angle before it tips if i ever ended up tilting further id make a new dot where that was

it didnt half help steady me nerves lookin at the dot on the gauge knowing id been there before without tilting :D:rolleyes:
 
redhand said:
Fink he means inclinometer. IIRC LR reckons on 45% on a side slope but there are too many variables to set a definite angle.
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LC reckon on 42 degrees, so in the same ball-park, albeit a slanted, uneven ball-park.
42 degrees, is way, way more than I would ever consider safe.
Perhaps 30 degrees, and that will have your a$$e eating the seat.

Gra.
 
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