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Mark Solesbury

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Hi all

Have decided to fix up the rangie, get her mot'd n taxed and sell her on.

The mrs said last night "You should get another 90". Thats that then. bye
bye rangie!

Anyway, at my new house, i have a private parking space, which i have to
maintan as it forms part of my house boundry.

On this spot, could i say leave an untexed, un mot'd un insured RRC whilst i
get her repaired?

Also, does anyone in Bedfordshire with a trailer, fancy helping me get her
to my new house for a few beer tokens?

Mark
87 RR V8 Classic.
Bedfordshire ish, well Rushden!


 
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:20:46 GMT, "Mark Solesbury"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Hi all
>
>Have decided to fix up the rangie, get her mot'd n taxed and sell her on.
>
>The mrs said last night "You should get another 90". Thats that then. bye
>bye rangie!
>
>Anyway, at my new house, i have a private parking space, which i have to
>maintan as it forms part of my house boundry.
>
>On this spot, could i say leave an untexed, un mot'd un insured RRC whilst i
>get her repaired?
>
>Also, does anyone in Bedfordshire with a trailer, fancy helping me get her
>to my new house for a few beer tokens?
>

I've got a SIIA with a harvey frost recovery hook on the back (in
Luton) if you're stuck, but the chains/drop plate might cause damage
to the front skirt/bumper.

Alex
 

"Alex" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:20:46 GMT, "Mark Solesbury"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >Hi all
> >
> >Have decided to fix up the rangie, get her mot'd n taxed and sell her on.
> >
> >The mrs said last night "You should get another 90". Thats that then. bye
> >bye rangie!
> >
> >Anyway, at my new house, i have a private parking space, which i have to
> >maintan as it forms part of my house boundry.
> >
> >On this spot, could i say leave an untexed, un mot'd un insured RRC
whilst i
> >get her repaired?
> >
> >Also, does anyone in Bedfordshire with a trailer, fancy helping me get
her
> >to my new house for a few beer tokens?
> >
>
> I've got a SIIA with a harvey frost recovery hook on the back (in
> Luton) if you're stuck, but the chains/drop plate might cause damage
> to the front skirt/bumper.
>
Half a dozen nuts & bolts, a couple of plugs and you are straight onto the
front crossmember, with no soft bits to worry about. A LR must be the
easiest car ever to lift with a harvey frost!


 
On or around Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:20:46 GMT, "Mark Solesbury"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Anyway, at my new house, i have a private parking space, which i have to
>maintan as it forms part of my house boundry.
>
>On this spot, could i say leave an untexed, un mot'd un insured RRC whilst i
>get her repaired?

if it's not dedicated as a public highway, or council maintained, then yes.
Private property, 's not on the road. Assuming of course that you don't
block a right of way.

Some years back, when a local hostelty was still open, there was and still
is a big wide junction off the main road with a triangle of grass in the
middle. The said triangle, in some odd fahion, apparently belongs to the
hostelry, not the council. One of the regular boozers had plans to buy it
in order that he could park his car there and sleep off any excess therein,
without the dibbles being able to do anything about it.

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"The breezy call of incense-breathing Morn, The swallow twittering
from the strawbuilt shed, The cock's shrill clarion, or the echoing
horn, No more shall rouse them from their lowly bed."
Thomas Gray, Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard.
 
In message <[email protected]>
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> On or around Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:20:46 GMT, "Mark Solesbury"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >Anyway, at my new house, i have a private parking space, which i have to
> >maintan as it forms part of my house boundry.
> >
> >On this spot, could i say leave an untexed, un mot'd un insured RRC whilst i
> >get her repaired?
>
> if it's not dedicated as a public highway, or council maintained, then yes.
> Private property, 's not on the road. Assuming of course that you don't
> block a right of way.
>
> Some years back, when a local hostelty was still open, there was and still
> is a big wide junction off the main road with a triangle of grass in the
> middle. The said triangle, in some odd fahion, apparently belongs to the
> hostelry, not the council. One of the regular boozers had plans to buy it
> in order that he could park his car there and sleep off any excess therein,
> without the dibbles being able to do anything about it.
>

He'd have wasted his money - a farmer was charged, and lost his appeal,
for drink driving accross his owm land to the back of his local!

Richard
--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
Boycot the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay
 
> Some years back, when a local hostelty was still open, there was and still
> is a big wide junction off the main road with a triangle of grass in the
> middle. The said triangle, in some odd fahion, apparently belongs to the
> hostelry, not the council. One of the regular boozers had plans to buy it
> in order that he could park his car there and sleep off any excess
therein,
> without the dibbles being able to do anything about it.
>
> --
They could have charged him with being drunk in charge, the RTA applies to
private land which the public have access to.


 

>> >
>> >Also, does anyone in Bedfordshire with a trailer, fancy helping me get
>her
>> >to my new house for a few beer tokens?
>> >
>>
>> I've got a SIIA with a harvey frost recovery hook on the back (in
>> Luton) if you're stuck, but the chains/drop plate might cause damage
>> to the front skirt/bumper.
>>
>Half a dozen nuts & bolts, a couple of plugs and you are straight onto the
>front crossmember, with no soft bits to worry about. A LR must be the
>easiest car ever to lift with a harvey frost!
>

Series/Defender are the easiest. Just wrap around front bumper and
lift.

Alex
 
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:09:52 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> Some years back, when a local hostelty was still open, there was and still
>> is a big wide junction off the main road with a triangle of grass in the
>> middle. The said triangle, in some odd fahion, apparently belongs to the
>> hostelry, not the council. One of the regular boozers had plans to buy it
>> in order that he could park his car there and sleep off any excess
>therein,
>> without the dibbles being able to do anything about it.
>>
>> --
>They could have charged him with being drunk in charge, the RTA applies to
>private land which the public have access to.

If he had left the car keys behind the bar, and then gone to sleep in
the car he could get away with it couldnt he?
Can't really be classed as in charge of a vehicle if you can't move
it.

I have already been urged to drive the 101 to various pubs by a few
mates, so we can all kip in the back of it in the carpark after! :)
 
A friend of my Dad's was done for being drunk in charge after he popped out
of the hotel, where he was booked in for the night, to get a briefcase from
the boot of his car!!!

Stew.

--
1990 Ninety 2.5 n/a D (Jasmine) - the off-road toy
Ex- Freelander Td4 5dr owner - the worst vehicle I have ever had!!!
New Jeep Cherokee Ltd 2.8CRD Auto - freelander replacement.


"Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:p[email protected]...
> On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:09:52 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>> Some years back, when a local hostelty was still open, there was and
>>> still
>>> is a big wide junction off the main road with a triangle of grass in the
>>> middle. The said triangle, in some odd fahion, apparently belongs to
>>> the
>>> hostelry, not the council. One of the regular boozers had plans to buy
>>> it
>>> in order that he could park his car there and sleep off any excess
>>therein,
>>> without the dibbles being able to do anything about it.
>>>
>>> --
>>They could have charged him with being drunk in charge, the RTA applies to
>>private land which the public have access to.
>
> If he had left the car keys behind the bar, and then gone to sleep in
> the car he could get away with it couldnt he?
> Can't really be classed as in charge of a vehicle if you can't move
> it.
>
> I have already been urged to drive the 101 to various pubs by a few
> mates, so we can all kip in the back of it in the carpark after! :)


 
On or around Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:10:10 GMT, Alex <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>
>>> >
>>> >Also, does anyone in Bedfordshire with a trailer, fancy helping me get
>>her
>>> >to my new house for a few beer tokens?
>>> >
>>>
>>> I've got a SIIA with a harvey frost recovery hook on the back (in
>>> Luton) if you're stuck, but the chains/drop plate might cause damage
>>> to the front skirt/bumper.
>>>
>>Half a dozen nuts & bolts, a couple of plugs and you are straight onto the
>>front crossmember, with no soft bits to worry about. A LR must be the
>>easiest car ever to lift with a harvey frost!
>>
>
>Series/Defender are the easiest. Just wrap around front bumper and
>lift.

I've been known to lift the front of defender/series for doing suspension
work using the engine hoist.

'ere. Anyone know where to get a short set of lifting chains, you know, the
kind that have a big ring, with 2 chains with hooks on the ends attched? The
one I've got is very old and rated 13cwt, which is a bit nauhgty on a 2T
capacity hoist - 's never broken, mind, even lifting the front end of a LR.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Once, when the secrets of science were the jealously guarded property of
a small priesthood, the common man had no hope of mastering their arcane
complexities. Years of study in musty classrooms were prerequisite to
obtaining even a dim, incoherent knowledge of science.
Today, all that has changed: a dim, incoherent knowledge of science is
available to anyone. - Tom Weller, Science Made Stupid, 1986
 
On or around Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:51:36 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>In message <[email protected]>
> Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Some years back, when a local hostelty was still open, there was and still
>> is a big wide junction off the main road with a triangle of grass in the
>> middle. The said triangle, in some odd fahion, apparently belongs to the
>> hostelry, not the council. One of the regular boozers had plans to buy it
>> in order that he could park his car there and sleep off any excess therein,
>> without the dibbles being able to do anything about it.
>>
>
>He'd have wasted his money - a farmer was charged, and lost his appeal,
>for drink driving accross his owm land to the back of his local!

how the feck did they justify that?
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Once, when the secrets of science were the jealously guarded property of
a small priesthood, the common man had no hope of mastering their arcane
complexities. Years of study in musty classrooms were prerequisite to
obtaining even a dim, incoherent knowledge of science.
Today, all that has changed: a dim, incoherent knowledge of science is
available to anyone. - Tom Weller, Science Made Stupid, 1986
 
>>>>
>>>> I've got a SIIA with a harvey frost recovery hook on the back (in
>>>> Luton) if you're stuck, but the chains/drop plate might cause damage
>>>> to the front skirt/bumper.
>>>>
>>>Half a dozen nuts & bolts, a couple of plugs and you are straight onto the
>>>front crossmember, with no soft bits to worry about. A LR must be the
>>>easiest car ever to lift with a harvey frost!
>>>
>>
>>Series/Defender are the easiest. Just wrap around front bumper and
>>lift.
>
>I've been known to lift the front of defender/series for doing suspension
>work using the engine hoist.
>
>'ere. Anyone know where to get a short set of lifting chains, you know, the
>kind that have a big ring, with 2 chains with hooks on the ends attched? The
>one I've got is very old and rated 13cwt, which is a bit nauhgty on a 2T
>capacity hoist - 's never broken, mind, even lifting the front end of a LR.


 
>>>
>>
>>Series/Defender are the easiest. Just wrap around front bumper and
>>lift.
>
>I've been known to lift the front of defender/series for doing suspension
>work using the engine hoist.
>
>'ere. Anyone know where to get a short set of lifting chains, you know, the
>kind that have a big ring, with 2 chains with hooks on the ends attched? The
>one I've got is very old and rated 13cwt, which is a bit nauhgty on a 2T
>capacity hoist - 's never broken, mind, even lifting the front end of a LR.

Dunno, but if you find somewhere online let me know. The chains on my
Harvey Frost are getting on a bit.

Alex
 
> >'ere. Anyone know where to get a short set of lifting chains, you know,
the
> >kind that have a big ring, with 2 chains with hooks on the ends attched?
The
> >one I've got is very old and rated 13cwt, which is a bit nauhgty on a 2T
> >capacity hoist - 's never broken, mind, even lifting the front end of a
LR.
>
> Dunno, but if you find somewhere online let me know. The chains on my
> Harvey Frost are getting on a bit.
>
http://www.redpage.co.uk/

Look under hardware, then chains.


 

"90ninety" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A friend of my Dad's was done for being drunk in charge after he popped
out
> of the hotel, where he was booked in for the night, to get a briefcase
from
> the boot of his car!!!
>
> Stew.
>
> --
> 1990 Ninety 2.5 n/a D (Jasmine) - the off-road toy
> Ex- Freelander Td4 5dr owner - the worst vehicle I have ever had!!!
> New Jeep Cherokee Ltd 2.8CRD Auto - freelander replacement.
>
>
> "Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:p[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:09:52 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Some years back, when a local hostelty was still open, there was and
> >>> still
> >>> is a big wide junction off the main road with a triangle of grass in
the
> >>> middle. The said triangle, in some odd fahion, apparently belongs to
> >>> the
> >>> hostelry, not the council. One of the regular boozers had plans to
buy
> >>> it
> >>> in order that he could park his car there and sleep off any excess
> >>therein,
> >>> without the dibbles being able to do anything about it.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>They could have charged him with being drunk in charge, the RTA applies
to
> >>private land which the public have access to.
> >
> > If he had left the car keys behind the bar, and then gone to sleep in
> > the car he could get away with it couldnt he?
> > Can't really be classed as in charge of a vehicle if you can't move
> > it.
> >
> > I have already been urged to drive the 101 to various pubs by a few
> > mates, so we can all kip in the back of it in the carpark after! :)
>
>
there have been cases where truck drivers asleep in the bed of their cabs
have been woken up and charged with being drunk in charge.


 
On or around Fri, 16 Sep 2005 02:02:42 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ" <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>> >'ere. Anyone know where to get a short set of lifting chains, you know,
>the
>> >kind that have a big ring, with 2 chains with hooks on the ends attched?
>The
>> >one I've got is very old and rated 13cwt, which is a bit nauhgty on a 2T
>> >capacity hoist - 's never broken, mind, even lifting the front end of a
>LR.
>>
>> Dunno, but if you find somewhere online let me know. The chains on my
>> Harvey Frost are getting on a bit.
>>
>http://www.redpage.co.uk/
>
>Look under hardware, then chains.
>

coo. Just the job, well hunted.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Pereant qui ante nos nostra dixerunt"
(confound the men who have made our remarks before us.)
Aelius Donatus (4th Cent.) [St. Jerome, Commentary on Ecclesiastes]
 
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:14:50 +0100, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:51:36 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>In message <[email protected]>
>> Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Some years back, when a local hostelty was still open, there was and still
>>> is a big wide junction off the main road with a triangle of grass in the
>>> middle. The said triangle, in some odd fahion, apparently belongs to the
>>> hostelry, not the council. One of the regular boozers had plans to buy it
>>> in order that he could park his car there and sleep off any excess therein,
>>> without the dibbles being able to do anything about it.
>>>
>>
>>He'd have wasted his money - a farmer was charged, and lost his appeal,
>>for drink driving accross his owm land to the back of his local!
>
>how the feck did they justify that?

Ownership of the land is not the point. If it is in public use (for
example, a supermarket car park or a field with a public footpath
across it) then the road traffic act applies.

Lee will be along in a moment...


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'03 Volvo V70
 

"SimonJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "90ninety" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> A friend of my Dad's was done for being drunk in charge after he popped
> out
>> of the hotel, where he was booked in for the night, to get a briefcase
> from
>> the boot of his car!!!
>>
>> Stew.
>>
>> --
>> 1990 Ninety 2.5 n/a D (Jasmine) - the off-road toy
>> Ex- Freelander Td4 5dr owner - the worst vehicle I have ever had!!!
>> New Jeep Cherokee Ltd 2.8CRD Auto - freelander replacement.
>>
>>
>> "Tom Woods" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:p[email protected]...
>> > On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 18:09:52 +0000 (UTC), "SimonJ" <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>> Some years back, when a local hostelty was still open, there was and
>> >>> still
>> >>> is a big wide junction off the main road with a triangle of grass in
> the
>> >>> middle. The said triangle, in some odd fahion, apparently belongs to
>> >>> the
>> >>> hostelry, not the council. One of the regular boozers had plans to
> buy
>> >>> it
>> >>> in order that he could park his car there and sleep off any excess
>> >>therein,
>> >>> without the dibbles being able to do anything about it.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>They could have charged him with being drunk in charge, the RTA applies
> to
>> >>private land which the public have access to.
>> >
>> > If he had left the car keys behind the bar, and then gone to sleep in
>> > the car he could get away with it couldnt he?
>> > Can't really be classed as in charge of a vehicle if you can't move
>> > it.
>> >
>> > I have already been urged to drive the 101 to various pubs by a few
>> > mates, so we can all kip in the back of it in the carpark after! :)
>>
>>
> there have been cases where truck drivers asleep in the bed of their cabs
> have been woken up and charged with being drunk in charge.

Mate went to pub with his rangie, got ****ed (as usual!), couldn't get a
taxi for love nor money so kipped in BOOT of rangie, climbed in through
tail, separated from front by fixed-in dog guard. Bloody useless local
Forres pigs woke him up at 3am and nicked him! ****ers isn't a strong enough
description for our local pigs! I mean, what harm was he doing? He had the
sense not to drive, and they repaid him by nicking him for drunk in charge,
he's a farmer (was, he died the other year somewhat unexpectedly) and he
lost his licence over it. Bastards won't do anything about drunks having a
pop at each other in the street or the local druggies (yes, they know who
they are) 'cos they're frightened they'll get a kicking!
Badger.
I feel better now.


 
In message <[email protected]>
Tim Hobbs <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:14:50 +0100, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >On or around Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:51:36 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> ><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
> >
> >>In message <[email protected]>
> >> Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Some years back, when a local hostelty was still open, there was and still
> >>> is a big wide junction off the main road with a triangle of grass in the
> >>> middle. The said triangle, in some odd fahion, apparently belongs to the
> >>> hostelry, not the council. One of the regular boozers had plans to buy it
> >>> in order that he could park his car there and sleep off any excess therein,
> >>> without the dibbles being able to do anything about it.
> >>>
> >>
> >>He'd have wasted his money - a farmer was charged, and lost his appeal,
> >>for drink driving accross his owm land to the back of his local!
> >
> >how the feck did they justify that?
>
> Ownership of the land is not the point. If it is in public use (for
> example, a supermarket car park or a field with a public footpath
> across it) then the road traffic act applies.
>
> Lee will be along in a moment...
>
>

The conclusion of the court, if I remember right, was that drink driving
was drink driving - wherever it is done.

Richard
--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk [email protected]
Running a business in a Microsoft free environment - it can be done
Powered by Risc-OS - you won't get a virus from us!!
Boycott the Yorkshire Dales - No Play, No Pay
 
On or around Sat, 17 Sep 2005 07:32:29 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>The conclusion of the court, if I remember right, was that drink driving
>was drink driving - wherever it is done.

that ought to have been worth a challenge. Granted, public places, but if
it's private property with no public access, then I don't see the point.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
Once, when the secrets of science were the jealously guarded property of
a small priesthood, the common man had no hope of mastering their arcane
complexities. Years of study in musty classrooms were prerequisite to
obtaining even a dim, incoherent knowledge of science.
Today, all that has changed: a dim, incoherent knowledge of science is
available to anyone. - Tom Weller, Science Made Stupid, 1986
 
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