Harper Adams 4x4 Videos

Langers · Feb 6, 2012

nrgserv said:
whats the tractive effort on a decend surface?
would be interesting to see the results from the tarmac car park,
especially with the tyres on the 110.
then again with standard tyres on all.
what was the strain guage rated to?

It would be very interesting if they weren't our own vehicles... The result of doing that on tarmac would probably be three very broken Landies

The strain gauge was rated to well in excess of what we were pulling.

Pikey · Feb 6, 2012

Langers said:
It is a LEGAL RIGHT of anyone to clear a public right of way of obstructions. That tree was not owned by any private land owner, since it was growing squarely in the middle of the lane. If anything, we were doing a service and doing the council's job for them...

If a tree fell onto the M6 and I was to drag it out of the way, would that be criminal damage? Would it hell!!

It would be if you'd cut it down first.

top-cat · Feb 6, 2012

NRS91 said:
you all seem to be from bigoted older generation where pure stereotyping seems to blind you from the facts...

not at all.
The video is there for all to see, what i cant understand is how 2 years studying engineering has any rellevance what so ever?????
It would seem to me the tree was cut down to avoid the risk of scratches which is crazy. If you dont wont scratches dont drive in to woodland.

300tdistu · Feb 6, 2012

Freediscoranger said:
didnt realise doing two years to do maths physics and economics A-levels to get on to do a engineering degree at a top university made me thick as ****. should probably re-think my future then
and i wasnt even on that trip

if you wasn't on the trip the comment wasn't meant at you :doh:

so yes thick as ****

Langers · Feb 6, 2012

redhand said:
It would be if you'd cut it down first.

It's the same as trimming hedges or branches that are overhanging a legal right of way. The fact is that it was an obstruction and thus we were well within our rights to remove it...

NRS91 · Feb 6, 2012

top-cat said:
not at all.
The video is there for all to see, what i cant understand is how 2 years studying engineering has any rellevance what so ever?????
It would seem to me the tree was cut down to avoid the risk of scratches which is crazy. If you dont wont scratches dont drive in to woodland.

i lost my snorkle on and a fair amount of paint on that lane due to trees
were not some nancy boy weekend pretenders... our trucks have scratched and bumps all over them as were not afraid to rub up on trees...
however removing the side and roof of my truck with the posibility of rollover because a tree had grown over the lane wasnt an option...

Freediscoranger · Feb 6, 2012

nrgserv said:
whats the tractive effort on a decend surface?
would be interesting to see the results from the tarmac car park,
especially with the tyres on the 110.
then again with standard tyres on all.
what was the strain guage rated to?

not sure of the specific rating of the strain guage but its used a lot with the tractors and is a pretty huge chunk of metal. another thing we used it for recently was to lift a lightweight up with a telle-handler calculating center of gravity, so it can easily take the weight of a vehicle hanging off the end.

as for the tractive effort on tarmac... im sure we could try that for one of the next tutorials

a rough estimate can be worked out if you had the shear force of the rubber on tarmac (assuming the vehicle can break traction)
in our off-road test the weight of the vehicle had far more effect than the track size (due to such a small shear force)

i hope that was faily clear

weve literally only done that session on that topic

Langers · Feb 6, 2012

top-cat said:
not at all.
The video is there for all to see, what i cant understand is how 2 years studying engineering has any rellevance what so ever?????
It would seem to me the tree was cut down to avoid the risk of scratches which is crazy. If you dont wont scratches dont drive in to woodland.

Scratches???

Try ruined wings, smashed windows and dented roofs!

You simply can't comment from watching the video, it doesn't show the whole story -- and that's an end to it

NRS91 · Feb 6, 2012

Langers said:
Scratches??? Try ruined wings, smashed windows and dented roofs!

You simply can't comment from watching the video, it doesn't show the whole story -- and that's an end to it

be fair langers... Pete aint keen on branches scratching his TD5

pca42 · Feb 6, 2012

HAHAHA!!! I can tell you we all respect the green lane conduct and do not condone disrespectful and illegal behaviour when on rights of way. However, as rights of way with vehicular access have the same rules as highways, the council has the responsibility to maintain these RofWs, and should have a minimum width of 2.75m. IIRC, if they do not comply, you are legally entitled to clear the right of way for through passage.

The route up to that point was clear, but up long steep ascent. Reversing back down would be very dangerous and could potentially damage more trees and vehicles. Further past this tree were more obstructions, so to prevent further risk to vehicles and trees, we made a conservative decision and cleared a path to enable us to access a place for everyone to turn around and go back the way we came. If we WERE going to be reckless off roaders, we would have cut down further trees and carried on up the rest of the lane!

top-cat · Feb 6, 2012

Langers said:
Scratches??? Try ruined wings, smashed windows and dented roofs!

You simply can't comment from watching the video, it doesn't show the whole story -- and that's an end to it

oh alright then

NRS91 · Feb 6, 2012

pca42 said:
HAHAHA!!! I can tell you we all respect the green lane conduct and do not condone disrespectful and illegal behaviour when on rights of way. However, as rights of way with vehicular access have the same rules as highways, the council has the responsibility to maintain these RofWs, and should have a minimum width of 2.75m. IIRC, if they do not comply, you are legally entitled to clear the right of way for through passage.

The route up to that point was clear, but up long steep ascent. Reversing back down would be very dangerous and could potentially damage more trees and vehicles. Further past this tree were more obstructions, so to prevent further risk to vehicles and trees, we made a conservative decision and cleared a path to enable us to access a place for everyone to turn around and go back the way we came. If we WERE going to be reckless off roaders, we would have cut down further trees and carried on up the rest of the lane!

just on que the hairdresser comes in and provides an excellent recap on the case for defence

Langers · Feb 6, 2012

NRS91 said:
be fair langers... Pete aint keen on branches scratching his TD5

Scratches and dents on the company vehicle might put off his best hairdressing clientelle

Edit: Bugger, didn't realise he was here!!

NRS91 · Feb 7, 2012

Langers said:
Edit: Bugger, didn't realise he was here!!

:doh:
haha he made a timely entrance :welcome2:

pca42 · Feb 7, 2012

Oi, my truck is probably more scratched than yours Langers! Lanes in Cornwall were as tight as your mums... yeah.

NRS91 · Feb 7, 2012

slack as a cows then?

Langers · Feb 7, 2012

pca42 said:
Oi, my truck is probably more scratched than yours Langers! Lanes in Cornwall were as tight as your mums... yeah.

Yes yes, all very true, but mine is still the only aluminium object in the world to have gone rusty. You don't get holes like that from driving to the hairdressers!

NRS91 · Feb 7, 2012

Langers said:
Yes yes, all very true, but mine is still the only aluminium object in the world to have gone rusty. You don't get holes like that from driving to the hairdressers!

give it five mins mate... TD5 will catch up with her ancestors quick enough

blue beasty · Feb 7, 2012

Wasn't there so don't know but don't see any problem with clearing a RoW......not sure sure posing on youtube is a good idea but whatever

Only thing I'd say is if you're cutting a stem its good practice to cut from both sides to avoid splitting down into the root bowl....not just for that one tree but to avoid the spread of 'non-specific sudden death syndrome' which is caused by a group of fungal infections that live in the roots and spreads through root and low level bark damage.

Just sos ya know fer the next time.....

NRS91 · Feb 7, 2012

blue beasty said:
Wasn't there so don't know but don't see any problem with clearing a RoW......not sure sure posing on youtube is a good idea but whatever

Only thing I'd say is if you're cutting a stem its good practice to cut from both sides to avoid splitting down into the root bowl....not just for that one tree but to avoid the spread of 'non-specific sudden death syndrome' which is caused by a group of fungal infections that live in the roots and spreads through root and low level bark damage.

Just sos ya know fer the next time.....

thanks for the constructive critisism... much more useful!
originally we were trying to bend the tree upright to try and pin it back out of the way... but didnt quite flex enough

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