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Richard Brookman

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Want an oil filter cartridge for the Series. Want it now, not later,
so try Halfords.

Me: Can I have an oil filter cartridge for a 1972 Land Rover please?
Boy: Sure. (Looks on computer) Is that a Discovery or a Freelander?
Me: It's a 1972 Land Rover. Discoveries and Freelanders weren't
invented then.
<Pause>
Boy: So it's a Defender then.
Me: No, as I said, it's 1972. They hadn't invented Defenders then
either.
<Pause>
Boy: (Looks at computer some more) Range Rover?
Me: No, a Land Rover, Series 2a. Petrol, 2¼ litre.
<Pause>
Boy: If it isn't a Discovery or a Freelander, it's got to be a Range
Rover.
Me: (slowly) It's a Series Land Rover. Look out of the window. There
it is.
<Pause>
Boy: So it's not a Discovery.
Me: No.
<Pause>
Boy: Or a Freelander.
Me: No.
<Pause>
Boy: Are you sure it isn't a Range Rover?
<Supervisor hears my weary tones and rushes over>
Supervisor: 1972 Land Rover?
Me: Yep.
Supervisor: Petrol or diesel?
Me: Petrol.
<Pause>
Supervisor: Special order, mate. Take about a week.
Me: Thank you my man. I'm glad to see your ongoing staff training
programme is bringing you such excellent results. <Leaves shop>

It was quite funny, really. The above is a summary of the
conversation. In reality it took at least ten minutes. The young lad
clearly had no idea AT ALL what he was doing. I could have strung the
fun out for an hour or so, but it would have been cruel. I don't mind
people being ignorant (we all have to learn sometime), but to put this
guy on the parts desk unsupervised was taking a bit of a risk with
customer satisfaction. I expect he would have been fine selling me a
sub-woofer and a chrome-effect gearknob.

Merry Christmas all.

Rich
 
Richard Brookman wrote:

I expect he would have been fine selling me a
> sub-woofer and a chrome-effect gearknob.

LOL! maybe he could have interested you in some of those lovely chrome metal effect floormats in dayglo
yellow?

Halfords are the motoring equivelant of Currys!!

--
Subaru WRX (The Bitch)

Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)

__


 


> It was quite funny, really. The above is a summary of the
> conversation. In reality it took at least ten minutes. The young lad
> clearly had no idea AT ALL what he was doing. I could have strung the
> fun out for an hour or so, but it would have been cruel. I don't mind
> people being ignorant (we all have to learn sometime), but to put this
> guy on the parts desk unsupervised was taking a bit of a risk with
> customer satisfaction. I expect he would have been fine selling me a
> sub-woofer and a chrome-effect gearknob.
>


Why not engage him in a conversation about undercar lights or sub-woofers,
then after a while just dump it and wander off.


 
So Hirsty's was, like

>> It was quite funny, really. The above is a summary of the
>> conversation. In reality it took at least ten minutes. The young
>> lad clearly had no idea AT ALL what he was doing. I could have
>> strung the fun out for an hour or so, but it would have been cruel.
>> I don't mind people being ignorant (we all have to learn sometime),
>> but to put this guy on the parts desk unsupervised was taking a bit
>> of a risk with customer satisfaction. I expect he would have been
>> fine selling me a sub-woofer and a chrome-effect gearknob.
>>
>
>
> Why not engage him in a conversation about undercar lights or
> sub-woofers, then after a while just dump it and wander off.

That would be wasting my time as well as his, although it's worth
considering. :) My local Halfords was always OK for most stuff, the best
thing being that they seemed to be always open, unlike the "better" local
motor factors, who seem to be always closed. But now they've had a complete
re-fit. They've installed an upstairs floor which is ALL bicycles and kids'
toys, and over half the main shop area is devoted to hi-fi, "enhancements"
and dubious stuff like 12v fridges and adult scooters. That leaves a small
corner for the oily bits. It's a pity, cos I've had some good stuff from
there in the past.

--

Rich

Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous


 
So Mr.Nice. was, like

> The moral of this story...... you went to halfords, your own stupid
> fault mate ;o)
>

Indeed. But they were 3 miles away and, more importantly, open. The other
motor factors close on a Saturday afternoon, and ordering from Cra/Paddocks
would have taken a couple of days. I wanted it there and then. I thought
it was worth a punt. Yeah, my mistake.

--

Rich

Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous


 
Richard Brookman composed the following ...

> It was quite funny, really. The above is a summary of the
> conversation. In reality it took at least ten minutes. The young lad
> clearly had no idea AT ALL what he was doing. I could have strung the
> fun out for an hour or so, but it would have been cruel. I don't mind
> people being ignorant (we all have to learn sometime), but to put this
> guy on the parts desk unsupervised was taking a bit of a risk with
> customer satisfaction. I expect he would have been fine selling me a
> sub-woofer and a chrome-effect gearknob.

You know what's really stupid is that the oil filter is probably similar, if
not exactly the same, as 'some other car' of that era. Oil Filters weren't
always made specifically for particular engines, and Landrover used to have
a policy of using standard parts where possible. They probably had different
part numbers is all .. Now if anyone can ever cross-match part numbers like
that .. ;) Now I probably wouldn't like to fit one unless I know it's
identical to standard, but if you need one desperately a close match
wouldn't harm much. All that really changes, providing the thing physically
its is flow rate, volume of oil, viscosity required (big tolerances in those
days) and particle hole size which again had big tolerances. I figure so
long as it's flowing enough and filtering, what else can go wrong??? ... :)

> Merry Christmas all.

Same to you and everyone .. ;)

--
Paul ...
http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
(8(!) Homer Rules ... ;)
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


 
So Paul - xxx was, like

> Oil Filters weren't always made specifically for particular engines,
> and Landrover used to have a policy of using standard parts where
> possible. They probably had different part numbers is all .. Now if
> anyone can ever cross-match part numbers like that .. ;)

Practical Classics magazine are doing something like this at the moment. I
picked one up in a Mway service area and it was full of cross references to
alternators and the like. Trouble is, they're doing it over several issues
and I've missed most of it. I didn't see any reference to Land Rovers
anyway. But the idea is a good one, if anyone had the time and patience.
--

Rich

Pas d'elle yeux Rhone que nous


 
In message <[email protected]>, Richard Brookman
<[email protected]> writes
>So Hirsty's was, like
>
>>> It was quite funny, really. The above is a summary of the
>>> conversation. In reality it took at least ten minutes. The young
>>> lad clearly had no idea AT ALL what he was doing. I could have
>>> strung the fun out for an hour or so, but it would have been cruel.
>>> I don't mind people being ignorant (we all have to learn sometime),
>>> but to put this guy on the parts desk unsupervised was taking a bit
>>> of a risk with customer satisfaction. I expect he would have been
>>> fine selling me a sub-woofer and a chrome-effect gearknob.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why not engage him in a conversation about undercar lights or
>> sub-woofers, then after a while just dump it and wander off.
>
>That would be wasting my time as well as his, although it's worth
>considering. :) My local Halfords was always OK for most stuff, the best
>thing being that they seemed to be always open, unlike the "better" local
>motor factors, who seem to be always closed. But now they've had a complete
>re-fit. They've installed an upstairs floor which is ALL bicycles and kids'
>toys, and over half the main shop area is devoted to hi-fi, "enhancements"
>and dubious stuff like 12v fridges and adult scooters. That leaves a small
>corner for the oily bits. It's a pity, cos I've had some good stuff from
>there in the past.
>
Sound like my local one in Crewe or have they adopted a universal shop
lay out.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
The only thing Halfords is good for is the cheap and nasty oil I bung in my
engine, cos it don't stay there that long :)


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes


"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Want an oil filter cartridge for the Series. Want it now, not later,
> so try Halfords.
>
> Me: Can I have an oil filter cartridge for a 1972 Land Rover please?
> Boy: Sure. (Looks on computer) Is that a Discovery or a Freelander?
> Me: It's a 1972 Land Rover. Discoveries and Freelanders weren't
> invented then.
> <Pause>
> Boy: So it's a Defender then.
> Me: No, as I said, it's 1972. They hadn't invented Defenders then
> either.
> <Pause>
> Boy: (Looks at computer some more) Range Rover?
> Me: No, a Land Rover, Series 2a. Petrol, 2¼ litre.
> <Pause>
> Boy: If it isn't a Discovery or a Freelander, it's got to be a Range
> Rover.
> Me: (slowly) It's a Series Land Rover. Look out of the window. There
> it is.
> <Pause>
> Boy: So it's not a Discovery.
> Me: No.
> <Pause>
> Boy: Or a Freelander.
> Me: No.
> <Pause>
> Boy: Are you sure it isn't a Range Rover?
> <Supervisor hears my weary tones and rushes over>
> Supervisor: 1972 Land Rover?
> Me: Yep.
> Supervisor: Petrol or diesel?
> Me: Petrol.
> <Pause>
> Supervisor: Special order, mate. Take about a week.
> Me: Thank you my man. I'm glad to see your ongoing staff training
> programme is bringing you such excellent results. <Leaves shop>
>
> It was quite funny, really. The above is a summary of the
> conversation. In reality it took at least ten minutes. The young lad
> clearly had no idea AT ALL what he was doing. I could have strung the
> fun out for an hour or so, but it would have been cruel. I don't mind
> people being ignorant (we all have to learn sometime), but to put this
> guy on the parts desk unsupervised was taking a bit of a risk with
> customer satisfaction. I expect he would have been fine selling me a
> sub-woofer and a chrome-effect gearknob.
>
> Merry Christmas all.
>
> Rich


 
Don't do oil changes over Christmas, save it for later !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Merry Christmas to one and all

Rich



"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Want an oil filter cartridge for the Series. Want it now, not later,
> so try Halfords.
>
> Me: Can I have an oil filter cartridge for a 1972 Land Rover please?
> Boy: Sure. (Looks on computer) Is that a Discovery or a Freelander?
> Me: It's a 1972 Land Rover. Discoveries and Freelanders weren't
> invented then.
> <Pause>
> Boy: So it's a Defender then.
> Me: No, as I said, it's 1972. They hadn't invented Defenders then
> either.
> <Pause>
> Boy: (Looks at computer some more) Range Rover?
> Me: No, a Land Rover, Series 2a. Petrol, 2¼ litre.
> <Pause>
> Boy: If it isn't a Discovery or a Freelander, it's got to be a Range
> Rover.
> Me: (slowly) It's a Series Land Rover. Look out of the window. There
> it is.
> <Pause>
> Boy: So it's not a Discovery.
> Me: No.
> <Pause>
> Boy: Or a Freelander.
> Me: No.
> <Pause>
> Boy: Are you sure it isn't a Range Rover?
> <Supervisor hears my weary tones and rushes over>
> Supervisor: 1972 Land Rover?
> Me: Yep.
> Supervisor: Petrol or diesel?
> Me: Petrol.
> <Pause>
> Supervisor: Special order, mate. Take about a week.
> Me: Thank you my man. I'm glad to see your ongoing staff training
> programme is bringing you such excellent results. <Leaves shop>
>
> It was quite funny, really. The above is a summary of the
> conversation. In reality it took at least ten minutes. The young lad
> clearly had no idea AT ALL what he was doing. I could have strung the
> fun out for an hour or so, but it would have been cruel. I don't mind
> people being ignorant (we all have to learn sometime), but to put this
> guy on the parts desk unsupervised was taking a bit of a risk with
> customer satisfaction. I expect he would have been fine selling me a
> sub-woofer and a chrome-effect gearknob.
>
> Merry Christmas all.
>
> Rich


 
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 17:32:32 +0000, hugh <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:

>Sound like my local one in Crewe or have they adopted a universal shop
>lay out.

I didnt realise you were local to me. There are enough other shops
round here that you shouldn't ever have the need to buy stuff like
that from halfords!
 
On 24 Dec 2004 04:02:05 -0800, [email protected] (Richard
Brookman) wrote:

>Want an oil filter cartridge for the Series. Want it now, not later,
>so try Halfords.

I've started buying oil + filters in bulk for all my cars so that i
know i have them ready for when the motivation to change the oil hits
me!
Makes it much easier

 
Walked into B&Q.......

grab first spotty youth in uniform,

Me " do you have any socket sets?"

SY "yes Sir, follow me"
(SY leads me to electrical section, and shows me the range of electrical
wall sockets)

Me, "no a socket set"

SY "oh, sorry sir, you want a socket SET"
(SY then takes me a few feet down the shelving, and points out the multiplug
extensions)

Me "erm. thanks, I'll just browse"


Find a slightly older looking assistant........

Me "do you have any socket sets"

SOLA "erm, not sure, I'll have to ask the manager"
(SOLA then leads me to the front of the store, to consult with the manager,
who is of course (you guessed it!) spotty youth!)

At that point I left the shop.

This was many years ago, the staff in B&Q now seem to be retired builders
etc, and some of them have actually got a clue!


 
In article <[email protected]>, Richard
Brookman <[email protected]> writes
>Want an oil filter cartridge for the Series. Want it now, not later,
>so try Halfords.
>
>Me: Can I have an oil filter cartridge for a 1972 Land Rover please?
>Boy: Sure. (Looks on computer) Is that a Discovery or a Freelander?
>Me: It's a 1972 Land Rover. Discoveries and Freelanders weren't
>invented then.
><Pause>
>Boy: So it's a Defender then.
>Me: No, as I said, it's 1972. They hadn't invented Defenders then
>either.
><Pause>
>Boy: (Looks at computer some more) Range Rover?
>Me: No, a Land Rover, Series 2a. Petrol, 2¼ litre.
><Pause>
>Boy: If it isn't a Discovery or a Freelander, it's got to be a Range
>Rover.
>Me: (slowly) It's a Series Land Rover. Look out of the window. There
>it is.
><Pause>
>Boy: So it's not a Discovery.
>Me: No.
><Pause>
>Boy: Or a Freelander.
>Me: No.
><Pause>
>Boy: Are you sure it isn't a Range Rover?


Sounds like a conversation I had with Direct Line many years ago trying
to get a quote for my IIa (long story). Droid on the other end of the
phone was convinced that Land Rover only made Rangies and Discos (this
was before the time of Freelanders), she couldn't get her head around
Land Rover being a model not a manufacturer.


Seasonal stuff.


Adrian
--
To Reply :
replace "news" with "adrian" and "nospam" with "ffoil"
Sorry for the rigmarole, If I want spam, I'll go to the shops
Every time someone says "I don't believe in trolls", another one dies.
 
Richard Brookman wrote:

> Want an oil filter cartridge for the Series. Want it now, not later,
> so try Halfords.
>
> Me: Can I have an oil filter cartridge for a 1972 Land Rover please?
> Boy: Sure. (Looks on computer) Is that a Discovery or a Freelander?
> Me: It's a 1972 Land Rover. Discoveries and Freelanders weren't
> invented then.
> <Pause>
> Boy: So it's a Defender then.
> Me: No, as I said, it's 1972. They hadn't invented Defenders then
> either.
> <Pause>
> Boy: (Looks at computer some more) Range Rover?
> Me: No, a Land Rover, Series 2a. Petrol, 2¼ litre.
> <Pause>
> Boy: If it isn't a Discovery or a Freelander, it's got to be a Range
> Rover.
> Me: (slowly) It's a Series Land Rover. Look out of the window. There
> it is.
> <Pause>
> Boy: So it's not a Discovery.
> Me: No.
> <Pause>
> Boy: Or a Freelander.
> Me: No.
> <Pause>
> Boy: Are you sure it isn't a Range Rover?
> <Supervisor hears my weary tones and rushes over>
> Supervisor: 1972 Land Rover?
> Me: Yep.
> Supervisor: Petrol or diesel?
> Me: Petrol.
> <Pause>
> Supervisor: Special order, mate. Take about a week.
> Me: Thank you my man. I'm glad to see your ongoing staff training
> programme is bringing you such excellent results. <Leaves shop>
>

Beats my local MGR dealer - I had a motor that needed a clutch replaced -
Vanden Plas 1500, or Allegro with smartarse grille on it. Nothing special,
just a bit old.

Went to the dealer and the infant behind the desk sat and tried to convince
me that there was not, and never had been any such vehicle. Refused to
believe that the car ourside was ever a product of the MGR heritage.

It eventually took their service manager LARTing him to get a price. Three
hours by the book to do a clutch on one of these. It took me thirty minutes
to do the thing. My father claims that on a good run, if nothing seized
most mechanics back in the day could do one in 10-15 minutes.

Lovely dealers :mad:)

P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
 
> >Sound like my local one in Crewe or have they adopted a universal shop
> >lay out.
>
> I didnt realise you were local to me. There are enough other shops
> round here that you shouldn't ever have the need to buy stuff like
> that from halfords!

Or local to me! I'd try Brown Brothers but I normaly go to Landranger
services at Middlewich as they nearly always have it in stock. Toby


 
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:19:23 -0000, "TVS" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>> >Sound like my local one in Crewe or have they adopted a universal shop
>> >lay out.
>>
>> I didnt realise you were local to me. There are enough other shops
>> round here that you shouldn't ever have the need to buy stuff like
>> that from halfords!
>
>Or local to me! I'd try Brown Brothers but I normaly go to Landranger
>services at Middlewich as they nearly always have it in stock. Toby
>
I didnt know there was a landranger there too. I'd feel very posh
going up to middleiwch rather than down to stoke :)
 
On 24 Dec 2004 04:02:05 -0800, [email protected] (Richard
Brookman) wrote:
I had virtually the same conversation when getting a number plate made
for the 101. In the end I gave up, and agreed that it wasn't a 101
after all,it was a Range Rover. I got my plates, and incredibly, they
fitted. Must be the same size on the Range Rover as the 101 :)


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

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Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
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In message <[email protected]>, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> writes
>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 01:19:23 -0000, "TVS" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>> >Sound like my local one in Crewe or have they adopted a universal shop
>>> >lay out.
>>>
>>> I didnt realise you were local to me. There are enough other shops
>>> round here that you shouldn't ever have the need to buy stuff like
>>> that from halfords!
>>
>>Or local to me! I'd try Brown Brothers but I normaly go to Landranger
>>services at Middlewich as they nearly always have it in stock. Toby
>>
>I didnt know there was a landranger there too. I'd feel very posh
>going up to middleiwch rather than down to stoke :)
You obviously don't know Middlewich!! LRS are based there, on the Brook
Lane Industrial Estate, turn down by the Boars Head then round the back
behind the tank wash. They have quite a few franchises, including Stoke,
Stockport, Shrewsbury and one in North Wales. They've looked after my
LRs for the last 10 years or so.
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
In message <[email protected]>, TVS
<[email protected]> writes
>> >Sound like my local one in Crewe or have they adopted a universal shop
>> >lay out.
>>
>> I didnt realise you were local to me. There are enough other shops
>> round here that you shouldn't ever have the need to buy stuff like
>> that from halfords!
>
>Or local to me! I'd try Brown Brothers but I normaly go to Landranger
>services at Middlewich as they nearly always have it in stock. Toby
>
>
That's were Ill be headed, once I've done a few more checks. The battery
has been OK since I recharged it even though the LR has stood for 24
hours on the drive. I'm beginning to suspect it may be the HF car kit
which is wired always on. I've checked the voltage at the terminals and
it rises to 13.8 with engine running and stays there even with all front
light on - about 400 watts of them.

Incidentally last time I went to LR Services I parked my 50th
Anniversary Defender - right next to another one!!! No 336 IIRC.
--
hugh
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