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Austin Shackles wrote:

> On or around Sat, 27 Nov 2004 14:55:10 -0000, "Larry"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Personally I wish the "SUV" had never been invented,
>>
>>4X4's should be practical vehicles with none of this designer chic
>>nonsence. Like my series 3 for instance :)
>>
>>Mind you there are plenty of stealth 4x4's out there, in the form of audis
>>and such like which again seems not to worry the knee jerk morons.

>
> Audi Allroad, Volvo XC90? both are big and tall. VW/Ford peoplecarrier
> with 4x4?


Audi S4, TT Quatro, Subaru Impreza, Sierra XR4x4

Lots of stealth 4x4s.

P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
 
> Also, does anybody know why trucks are governed to 56mph yet coaches which
> are the same size as trucks and just as dangerous seem to be completely
> unlimited?
>

Coaches are limited to 100kph (that is 62 and a half mph to those non euro
converts) and speaking as a national express steering wheel attendant I
would have to say that all of these vehicles are only as dangerous as the so
called professional driver at the helm.

We could now have a nice long discussion about the speed limiters and where
else they should be applied (for example every vehicle on the road should
never go beyond 70mph).

Pete

--
"Reason has always existed,
but not always in a reasonable form"
Groucho

"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...
well, I have others"
Karl


 
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 17:20:02 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Austin Shackles wrote:
>
>> On or around Sat, 27 Nov 2004 14:55:10 -0000, "Larry"
>> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>Personally I wish the "SUV" had never been invented,
>>>
>>>4X4's should be practical vehicles with none of this designer chic
>>>nonsence. Like my series 3 for instance :)
>>>
>>>Mind you there are plenty of stealth 4x4's out there, in the form of audis
>>>and such like which again seems not to worry the knee jerk morons.

>>
>> Audi Allroad, Volvo XC90? both are big and tall. VW/Ford peoplecarrier
>> with 4x4?

>
>Audi S4, TT Quatro, Subaru Impreza, Sierra XR4x4
>
>Lots of stealth 4x4s.
>
>P.


Had a quick go in a Golf VR6 4motion today. Bloody awful on a bumpy
road, but a very nice noise and lots of go.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
In message <[email protected]>, Mr. Nice.
<mr.nice@*nospam*clara.co.uk> writes
>On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 15:47:49 -0000, "Peter Seddon"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hi all
>>
>>Did anyone else hear the item on R2 news this am about large 4x4s having to
>>have health and environment wornings stuck all over them. Which tree hugging
>>numpty though that one up.!!!
>>
>>Peter.

>
> for the agressive 4x4 driver
>"Warning, getting in my way can f***-up your day"
>
>for the land rover driver
>"Warning, may contain nuts"
>
>heheheheheh
>
>Regards.
>Mark.(AKA, Mr.Nice.)

Warning - Driver doesn't give a s****
--
hugh
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On or around Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:01:15 +0000, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>
>Had a quick go in a Golf VR6 4motion today. Bloody awful on a bumpy
>road, but a very nice noise and lots of go.


did you take it greenlaning?
 
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:45:10 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:01:15 +0000, Tim Hobbs
><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>
>>Had a quick go in a Golf VR6 4motion today. Bloody awful on a bumpy
>>road, but a very nice noise and lots of go.

>
>did you take it greenlaning?


At one point, nearly. But as I was only taking it back to a friend's
house (and only on my own 3rd party insurance) I thought I ought not
bend it.

Trouble with it is that it is just too short to be doing 80mph on a
fairly bumpy (but straight) country lane. The Volvo doesn't get to 80
so easily, but it's a lot more secure with the longer wheelbase.
--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
In message <[email protected]>, Tim Hobbs
<[email protected]> writes
>On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 20:45:10 +0000, Austin Shackles
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On or around Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:01:15 +0000, Tim Hobbs
>><[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>
>>>Had a quick go in a Golf VR6 4motion today. Bloody awful on a bumpy
>>>road, but a very nice noise and lots of go.

>>
>>did you take it greenlaning?

>
>At one point, nearly. But as I was only taking it back to a friend's
>house (and only on my own 3rd party insurance) I thought I ought not
>bend it.
>
>Trouble with it is that it is just too short to be doing 80mph on a
>fairly bumpy (but straight) country lane. The Volvo doesn't get to 80
>so easily, but it's a lot more secure with the longer wheelbase.

Don't VW do a 110 version?
--
hugh
Reply to address is valid at the time of posting
 
So Highbeam was, like

> Coaches are limited to 100kph (that is 62 and a half mph to those non
> euro converts)


So how come so many coaches overtake me by a margin of ~10mph when I am
doing 70 on the motorway?

--

Rich

Nullum Gratuitum Prandium


 
Richard Brookman wrote:

> So Highbeam was, like
>
>> Coaches are limited to 100kph (that is 62 and a half mph to those non
>> euro converts)

>
> So how come so many coaches overtake me by a margin of ~10mph when I am
> doing 70 on the motorway?
>


Indeed. I was getting overtaken by a LargeOAPTourCompany coach the other
night when I was doing significantly more than I should have been on a
motorway.

I'd guess the coach was doing somewhere around 95MPH.

P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
 
On or around Sun, 28 Nov 2004 16:32:12 +0000, "Paul S. Brown"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Richard Brookman wrote:
>
>> So Highbeam was, like
>>
>>> Coaches are limited to 100kph (that is 62 and a half mph to those non
>>> euro converts)

>>
>> So how come so many coaches overtake me by a margin of ~10mph when I am
>> doing 70 on the motorway?
>>

>
>Indeed. I was getting overtaken by a LargeOAPTourCompany coach the other
>night when I was doing significantly more than I should have been on a
>motorway.
>
>I'd guess the coach was doing somewhere around 95MPH.


'cos they ain't (all) limited, I reckon. Besides, they're allowed to do 70
on the motorway.

 
In article <[email protected]>, Paul S. Brown wrote:
>
> Audi S4, TT Quatro, Subaru Impreza, Sierra XR4x4
>
> Lots of stealth 4x4s.
>
> P.


Even Jaguar are at it aren't they, with the x-type?

--
simon at sbarr dot demon dot co dot uk
Simon Barr.
'97 110 300Tdi.
 
Its obvios really, I do not think with the competition from the railways
that the schedules would bear anything slowere.

In the good old days when the M1 was a new thing Midland red ran turbo
charged coaches scheduled to run down the motorway at 80 mph.

At least one of these vehicles still exists in the Wythall transport museum.
--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"Highbeam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:eek:[email protected]...
> > Also, does anybody know why trucks are governed to 56mph yet coaches

which
> > are the same size as trucks and just as dangerous seem to be completely
> > unlimited?
> >

> Coaches are limited to 100kph (that is 62 and a half mph to those non euro
> converts) and speaking as a national express steering wheel attendant I
> would have to say that all of these vehicles are only as dangerous as the

so
> called professional driver at the helm.
>
> We could now have a nice long discussion about the speed limiters and

where
> else they should be applied (for example every vehicle on the road should
> never go beyond 70mph).
>
> Pete
>
> --
> "Reason has always existed,
> but not always in a reasonable form"
> Groucho
>
> "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them...
> well, I have others"
> Karl
>
>



 
Simon Barr <[email protected]> writes:

> In article <[email protected]>, Paul S. Brown wrote:
>>
>> Audi S4, TT Quatro, Subaru Impreza, Sierra XR4x4


>> Lots of stealth 4x4s.


> Even Jaguar are at it aren't they, with the x-type?


Fiat Panda!

Pete

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____________________________________________________________________
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"Just another crouton, floating on the bouillabaisse of life"
 
In message <[email protected]>, Larry <[email protected]>
writes
>Its obvios really, I do not think with the competition from the railways
>that the schedules would bear anything slowere.
>
>In the good old days when the M1 was a new thing Midland red ran turbo
>charged coaches scheduled to run down the motorway at 80 mph.
>
>At least one of these vehicles still exists in the Wythall transport museum.

And BR made sure that the track alongside it was one of the fastest
stretches on the West Coast mainline so the trains were always
overtaking the cars.
--
hugh
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Rather fun that stretch of the line, I travel to London fairly often not in
my Landie but by rail. It is one heck of a lot cheaper never mind Red Ken to
go by rail.

Mind you I used to take my limo in and I would drive anywhere I wanted bus
lanes and all cos who was gonna ask questions when I might have diplomatic
immunity for all they knew. I did get full expences though so I wasn't
complaining.

Thats what really gets me about these knee jerk Eejits, they would have
ignored my limo cos it didn't fit there narrow minded category of planet
eating monster.


--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes

"hugh" <hugh@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In message <[email protected]>, Larry <[email protected]>
> writes
> >Its obvios really, I do not think with the competition from the railways
> >that the schedules would bear anything slowere.
> >
> >In the good old days when the M1 was a new thing Midland red ran turbo
> >charged coaches scheduled to run down the motorway at 80 mph.
> >
> >At least one of these vehicles still exists in the Wythall transport

museum.
> And BR made sure that the track alongside it was one of the fastest
> stretches on the West Coast mainline so the trains were always
> overtaking the cars.
> --
> hugh
> Reply to address is valid at the time of posting



 
>who was gonna ask questions when I might have diplomatic
>immunity for all they knew.


Usually shown on the number plate, though.

Always reminds me of Lethal Weapon:

- "Diplomatic immunity!"

Cheers

Blippie
--
Ten minutes of this rain will do more good in half an hour than a fortnight
of ordinary rain in a month.


 

"Blippie" <alt.aviation.roswell.wannabe.wannabe.wannabe> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> >who was gonna ask questions when I might have diplomatic
>>immunity for all they knew.

>
> Usually shown on the number plate, though.
>
> Always reminds me of Lethal Weapon:
>
> - "Diplomatic immunity!"
>


He still got shot!!!!

Peter


 
Well from what I have been told it did used to go abroad.

Apparantly it once arrived at Buck House on the back of a transporter, when
it broke down on the way.

I used to frequently park in the Lord Mayors spot outside the Coventry
Council House.

--
Larry
Series 3 rust and holes



"Blippie" <alt.aviation.roswell.wannabe.wannabe.wannabe> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Usually shown on the number plate, though.
>
> Always reminds me of Lethal Weapon:
>
> - "Diplomatic immunity!"
>
> Cheers
>
> Blippie
> --
> Ten minutes of this rain will do more good in half an hour than a

fortnight
> of ordinary rain in a month.
>
>



 
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