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Bobsticle said:

I can even give you a full cutting plan from 8x4 sheets for the girls at BnQ

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Now that is awesome. I'll message you some dimensions. Thanks dude

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Product Dimensions:510mm (20.1") L x 400mm (15.8") W x 230mm (9.1") H

Bobsticle said:

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Product Dimensions:510mm (20.1") L x 400mm (15.8") W x 230mm (9.1") H

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I've got a couple of things (like a bulk head water tank) that change the dims a bit. That is a useful picture tho. Will PM you buddy tomorrow after work

payydg said:

I've got a couple of things (like a bulk head water tank) that change the dims a bit. That is a useful picture tho. Will PM you buddy tomorrow after work

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Biggest problem I had when doing my pull out drawers was the sheet of ply that sits between the arches (in my case 3/4 of the depth) wouldnt go in in one piece. So I had to split it down the center as below. You might be OK with a narrower shelf.

Bobsticle said:

Biggest problem I had when doing my pull out drawers was the sheet of ply that sits between the arches (in my case 3/4 of the depth) wouldnt go in in one piece. So I had to split it down the center as below. You might be OK with a narrower shelf.

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Right mate so the basic design would be this: one piece of ply across the wheel arches - this would be 100cm long and 150cm wide (hopefully will go in as one, I can remove the dog guard to spin it round a bit once in). That will create a space between the wheel arches that will hold 4 wold boxes.

The next shelf would be a bit different as I have two boxes onto of the wheel arches and I want to make a flat platform level with the tops of these so it creates one flat platform with another space below that will take 4 wolf boxes. This would require another piece of ply 100cm long and 92cm wide. This will need 3 support bits 100cm long and 24cm heigh.

Does that make sense? I've tried to draw a pic - please don't laugh!

Recon this will work?

You will get the full sheet in because its only as wide as the space between the arches. It wont go in flat coz the door is ever so slightly narrower but it will go in on the slant and lay flat. My shelf is as wide as the sides and wouldnt turn once in the back.
The only down side is getting all the wolf boxes out if you want one thats at the back. I have made drawers in mine that pull out all the way so the whole drawer is accessable. You could do the same with a simple pull out 'flat' unit that the boxes sit on. It all depends on the dimensions.
My Land Rover is a series so I am not positive the sizes are the same. The drawing I posted was meant to be a 90 so If you can throw a tape measure over yours to confirm the sizes are the same as the drawing I can give you some easy options on how to build the shelf for easy access.

It may also be cheaper to fit drawers as wolf boxes are 25 bats a piece.

Bobsticle said:

You will get the full sheet in because its only as wide as the space between the arches. It wont go in flat coz the door is ever so slightly narrower but it will go in on the slant and lay flat. My shelf is as wide as the sides and wouldnt turn once in the back.
The only down side is getting all the wolf boxes out if you want one thats at the back. I have made drawers in mine that pull out all the way so the whole drawer is accessable. You could do the same with a simple pull out 'flat' unit that the boxes sit on. It all depends on the dimensions.
My Land Rover is a series so I am not positive the sizes are the same. The drawing I posted was meant to be a 90 so If you can throw a tape measure over yours to confirm the sizes are the same as the drawing I can give you some easy options on how to build the shelf for easy access.

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Hi mate, yeh the dimensions are the same other than the length which is 1m as I have a bulk head mounted water tank. Any help and advice much appreciated.

I've already got the wolf boxes. I prefer them to drawers as I do a lot of outdoor sports, which means I'm not always setting up camp next to the landy. Wolf boxes are easier to shift from one place to another.

Did the second shelf that forms a flat platform with the tops of the two wheel arch boxes make sense?

Thanks buddy

OK just thinking out loud here. Everything is possible...........

First problem is the height of the boxes. A standard wolf box is 230mm high. The wheel arch is only 220mm so the platform will need to be lifted above the wheel arch slightly (back to the full width problem).
As a general rule it is a better idea to build the main box/frame 'out' of the vehicle so things stay square and strong and then drop it between the arches. After all (as I found out) the load area may not be perfectly square. This may not work if you have to extend the height of the arch. Its not practical to just screw the timber into the sides of the vehicle as not only will you have sharp screws stuck out of the other sides but the timber will be pulled into the shape of the loadspace rather than staying true and square so pre cutting (estimating finished sizes) could be an issue. In this instance it might be better to measure and cut each piece on site to allow for any discrepancy.

Width of the wolf box should be OK. The distance between arches is 925mm. A wolf box is 400mm. Take away 10mm for each vertical timber sheet (40mm) and that leaves 885mm. The door opening is 864mm so the boxes should clear the door frame when being removed (probably better to step the shelf back slightly just to give maximum egress in case the open door edge narrows the gap any more than normal (I know mine does).

Right, to the drawing board. I'll get some ideas together.........................

Ang on a mo.
The wolf box is 510mm, x 2. 1020 ?

The available load space is 1000 long.

You might not get the door closed....................

Bobsticle said:

Ang on a mo.
The wolf box is 510mm, x 2. 1020 ?

The available load space is 1000 long.

You might not get the door closed....................

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Thanks mate, you're a star. They do fit with the door closed, just, the load space is slightly over 1m but I thought that would give me a bit of room for adjustment.

Excited to see your plans!

Ere ye pest..................

Bobsticle said:

Ere ye pest..................

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Holy **** mate thats awesome! I was expecting a simple picture not a bloody video. How did you make that?

Took weeks.

Well, half an hour on t'laptop

Bobsticle said:

Took weeks.

Well, half an hour on t'laptop

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Hopefully the end product looks as good as that!

I've got almost identical design to what Bobsticle has come up with ( nice vid by the way! ), but I cut and laid my top sheet of ply sideways rather than length ways, I also have a narrow strip of ply (w: 50mm) across the wheel arches (almost on top of the rear bulkhead). The first sheet of ply is hinged to this and then the second sheet of ply is is hinged to the first. This way the whole lot can fold up and lay on the folded-down rear passenger seats, should I need to stick anytime bulky in the back.

I don't have a centre divider ( I don't have boxes, just loads of gardening tools underneath ) and 18mm ply holds up nicely.
I not making any bloody movies to demonstrate this, but I'll see if I can get a photo later, currently the rear is full of all manner of shite!

bluedog333 said:

I've got almost identical design to what Bobsticle has come up with ( nice vid by the way! ), but I cut and laid my top sheet of ply sideways rather than length ways, I also have a narrow strip of ply (w: 50mm) across the wheel arches (almost on top of the rear bulkhead). The first sheet of ply is hinged to this and then the second sheet of ply is is hinged to the first. This way the whole lot can fold up and lay on the folded-down rear passenger seats, should I need to stick anytime bulky in the back.

I don't have a centre divider ( I don't have boxes, just loads of gardening tools underneath ) and 18mm ply holds up nicely.
I not making any bloody movies to demonstrate this, but I'll see if I can get a photo later, currently the rear is full of all manner of shite!

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How did you get the timber in and turn it into position or isnt it a 90. Sounds a good idea.

Bobsticle said:

How did you get the timber in and turn it into position or isnt it a 90. Sounds a good idea.

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The sheets aren't the full width of the wheel arches, I've got some 2x1 (ish) baton on the arches, as you have, to increase the height underneath and then about an 8" gap between the sheet and the side panels of the Landy, this creates a handy space for some tool boxes, spare oil etc. I'll pop some photos of the mess a bit later!
What software did you create those designs on? Looks like SketchUp (pro)? I've wanted to be able to get to that stage of creativity, but I just don't spend enough time practicing!
Didn't realise it was for a 90, I've got a 110. Same principle I guess.

bluedog333 said:

The sheets aren't the full width of the wheel arches, I've got some 2x1 (ish) baton on the arches, as you have, to increase the height underneath and then about an 8" gap between the sheet and the side panels of the Landy, this creates a handy space for some tool boxes, spare oil etc. I'll pop some photos of the mess a bit later!
What software did you create those designs on? Looks like SketchUp (pro)? I've wanted to be able to get to that stage of creativity, but I just don't spend enough time practicing!
Didn't realise it was for a 90, I've got a 110. Same principle I guess.

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I though you might have had a way of doing it I hadnt thought of.

payydg said:

Hopefully the end product looks as good as that!

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Just found the pics of mine being butchered.