Gasless Mig Welder

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jamesmartin said:
once youve used a decent welder you will know those little welders are crap for thin stuff ,they may not turn up very high but they dont turn down enough either, 2.5 mm chassis plates is about as small as id want to weld ,though anything is possible if your desperate enough
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Totally agree with you, however most people that buy these are desperate that's the point..just want to fix their motor for mot etc.. etc.. Most people doing regular work/restorations would more likely invest in better equipment.
 
DazDisco said:
Totally agree with you, however most people that buy these are desperate that's the point..just want to fix their motor for mot etc.. etc.. Most people doing regular work/restorations would more likely invest in better equipment.
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im not sure id recommend the desperate type welding on vehicles , i see plenty that are unsafely repaired for using on the roads
 
Look, I'm not trying to re-train as a bloody fabricator, all I want is a welding device that will do the odd repair here and there.
I really don't need this thread to turn into a war of words between people.

So, please, if you have nothing of value to add, kindly refrain from posting.
 
JohnM70 said:
Look, I'm not trying to re-train as a bloody fabricator, all I want is a welding device that will do the odd repair here and there.
I really don't need this thread to turn into a war of words between people.

So, please, if you have nothing of value to add, kindly refrain from posting.
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Nobodies interested in what you think :p:D:D
 
jamesmartin said:
once youve used a decent welder you will know those little welders are crap for thin stuff ,they may not turn up very high but they dont turn down enough either, 2.5 mm chassis plates is about as small as id want to weld ,though anything is possible if your desperate enough
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In my opinion this sums up gasless the best. I've got a Clarke gas/gasless 195 mig as thought it be the best as all my welding is outside on the landy. Welding thin stuff like footwells at 1.2MM is a problem due to blow through. My sons a coded welder and even he struggled with it and admits it wasn't tidy. I used to speak up for gasless but since we switched it over to gas the results are night and day. Still get blow through on thin stuff but the look of the weld is a lot better and sons a lot happier to use it. Even in windy Scotland we have used the gas outside and as suggested set up curtains round the weld area with tarps. Difference speaks for itself when you see the difference.
 
Gas or gasless?? I don't have to choose! My 160te Clarke mig just stares at me as I weld with my Oxygen/acetylene gas equipment! Ive used oxy/acetylene since I was 19 and I'm 45 now ! Its. A little slower than my mig but ideal for welding my series Landrover! MGBGT and my Morris minor van! With practice you can have little or no distortion even on 1mm thick steel, which is the main argument against oxy/acet welding. Regards Chris
 
Auldgreen90 said:
In my opinion this sums up gasless the best. I've got a Clarke gas/gasless 195 mig as thought it be the best as all my welding is outside on the landy. Welding thin stuff like footwells at 1.2MM is a problem due to blow through. My sons a coded welder and even he struggled with it and admits it wasn't tidy. I used to speak up for gasless but since we switched it over to gas the results are night and day. Still get blow through on thin stuff but the look of the weld is a lot better and sons a lot happier to use it. Even in windy Scotland we have used the gas outside and as suggested set up curtains round the weld area with tarps. Difference speaks for itself when you see the difference.
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It is a common problem with small cheap welders that you have very little control when wanting to turn the power down but a 195 is considerably more powerful to begin with than a 100.

I'd still go with gas given a choice though
 
DazDisco said:
How many hobbyists play around with 6mm plate?:confused:
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Err....... I does quite often. :D

My own 6mm HD diff pan. And yes the axle is still straight. Most of the welding was done on the bench before welding to the axle case.





Held up well to the abuse I gave it last weekend. :)


Then again my set up isn't a typical hobbyist setup. Tis a sealey power mig 180. With full size argon mix bottle. And decent regulator. Run it off a dedicated 16amp socket for welding 6mm as it pops 13amp fuses for a pasttime at full chat. :D



Would still love a 3 phase welder at home mind. But this'll do for now. Welds 6mm no problem and has plenty of adjustment to be able to weld **** thin land rover bodywork.

So would highly recommend this one to anyone looking for a decent welder. :)
 
blue beasty said:
I know all this, you keep telling us.

Its still a case of you giving ****e info on a tech thread.

That welder will suit a hobbiest, weld body work and just about chassis and what you implied was the exact opposite and as an experienced welder you know that.

Argue and try and deny it all you want but I'm not stupid and you'll very soon find yourself arguing alone :mad:
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to be fair your wrong ,those little welders are crap for bodywork and work better on chassis or thicker
 
robbh said:
Err....... I does quite often. :D

My own 6mm HD diff pan. And yes the axle is still straight. Most of the welding was done on the bench before welding to the axle case.





Held up well to the abuse I gave it last weekend. :)


Then again my set up isn't a typical hobbyist setup. Tis a sealey power mig 180. With full size argon mix bottle. And decent regulator. Run it off a dedicated 16amp socket for welding 6mm as it pops 13amp fuses for a pasttime at full chat. :D



Would still love a 3 phase welder at home mind. But this'll do for now. Welds 6mm no problem and has plenty of adjustment to be able to weld **** thin land rover bodywork.

So would highly recommend this one to anyone looking for a decent welder. :)
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something like that second hand is what a hobbyist wants, a vehicle needs welding properly not just plates bodged on
 
jamesmartin said:
something like that second hand is what a hobbyist wants, a vehicle needs welding properly not just plates bodged on
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Oh yes agreed. Hence why I posted it up. :) Tis a brilliant little welder. Also holds a full size 15kg wire reel.

Just the gas bottle I know most people may struggle to get hold of(I work in structural steel so just swap it for a full one when mines empty;)) .

I've also upgraded the earth clamp as the one it came with was pants. And fitted a euro torch to it as they are much nicer to use.

The regulator wasn't cheap either.

And I use it outside no trouble at all. If a bit of a breeze about I just turn up the shielding gas a little on the regulator. Usually have it set to around 10-15 litres/min for in the garage and 20-25 litres/min if outside and windy. Will use a tarp as windshield if really blowing a gail.
 
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