Fuel solenoid

Am I correct in thinking that if I fit a hidden switch to the white cable that goes to the soleniod on the injector pump this will stop the engine starting?
And if somebody tried to start the engine with the solenoid feed turned off would it damage the injector pump?
Or does anybody have any other anti-theft tricks?

I had one of these on my old landy. never used it really. then i tried it once at the lights. sure enough it knocked my engine out straight away! restarted straight away.

If someone breaks into your landy, hot wires it, smashed the ignition barrel a knackered IP is the last of your worries. I think it will be ok.

Couple that with a battery cut out switch and your most of the way there.

G

Thanks, It already takes me 5 miniutes to lock it up, Steering wheel bar, clutch and brake pedal claw lock, Bloody great chain through the steering wheel and round the pedals, Handbrake lock & alarm.
Now going to add fuel cut off switch and battery isolator! Sh1t scared of my 90 being nicked, but how do you stop them hiyabbing it away? Thought of a ground anchor and a huge chain to the chassis!!
Neighbours thimk I'm tapped!

Ground anchors and chain I like it! park it out of the way behind other cars etc. sounds like you have a good set-up.

G

I'm thinking of fitting a switch something like this:-
BATTERY CUT-OFF SWITCH FIA VERSION BSFIA
As I think the best way is to put something in the vehicle that they wont recognise as a theft device and can come in handy if something nasty, like a roll over, happens off road. Put this switch in the main ignition feed circuit near the battery box, maybe in the cubby box, anmd they'll never start it.
There's a much cheaper one that isn't waterproof.

er, most people will recognise that as a batt isolator switch and likely have a replacement key.

as you said, you need to have this INSIDE your cubby box where you can lock it in and make sure its securely bolted. take them a little more time to find it, but it all helps.

Hi Gordo,
I think the mechanical locks are less useful as they know how to break them. After all they practice busting them every night. F**kers. By the way the switch shown is £20 and the cheaper one £7.50.

Anyway, thought your thread interesting, we're both thinking along the same lines. Ground anchor would have to be substantial, bloody 90 wouldnt notice it was there if they put it in low range and drove off. (You can tow anything with a Land Rover...) interesting

Yep, It's worth doing, But it's who's around when I'm at work and the missus is out!
The local hoods would reck it just because they havn't got one!
I worked my arse off for three years to be able to buy my dream 90, Now iv'e got it, It seems like it's going to be a job keeping it!
But why should we be beaten by scum bags who think that they can help themselves to other peoples property!

Griffdowg said:

er, most people will recognise that as a batt isolator switch and likely have a replacement key.

as you said, you need to have this INSIDE your cubby box where you can lock it in and make sure its securely bolted. take them a little more time to find it, but it all helps.

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Hi Griff,
Do you think the people who steal Land Rovers would recognise switches like that without the key hanging out of it? Do they joy ride them or break them for parts or what? I know newer ones are stolen for export.

What are we trying to protect against?

I was thinking of taking up one flagstone, Digging down say 2 feet dropping a really heavy chain in the middle and fill it with concrete! It's just where to lock the other end to?

Gordo 90 said:

Yep, It's worth doing, But it's who's around when I'm at work and the missus is out!
The local hoods would reck it just because they havn't got one!
I worked my arse off for three years to be able to buy my dream 90, Now iv'e got it, It seems like it's going to be a job keeping it!
But why should we be beaten by scum bags who think that they can help themselves to other peoples property!

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Or get a voltage inverter and a double pole double throw switch connectg it up the the ignition swich with care and forethought, planning etc...
Desired result: touch the ignition switch without switching off the inverter and poof one hoodie with frizzier hair than last time he screwed with your pride and joy...

I think there may be a potential offence in this, much as I like the idea.

Gordo 90 said:

And if somebody tried to start the engine with the solenoid feed turned off would it damage the injector pump?

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How do you think your engine gets turned off?

Good enough plan - however, I would make the splice to the switch INSIDE behind the dash.

well it doesnt matter what they do with it. You just need to ensure its disabled and does not leave your driveway!

Pikey knows more about nicking landies and export I just think that anyone in the motor trade will know what this bit of kit is. They are widely used in motor racing of all sorts. boats have them and i would imagine so do alot of other bits of kit. The keys are not individual either, they are universal so this presents a problem. Hence why both you and I suggested locking it in the cubby box. You WILL need to hide it and need to hide the fuel cut out. But even then these things can be by-passed in a short space of time.

I like the idea of burying chains. As a Geotechnical engineer though I wouldnt suggest filling a hole with concrete. I think if you drove off it would just pull the 2x2x2ft cube out of the hole! If you have a concrete driveway then you could cut a section out of it, break out to depth, add some reinforced bar 8-10mm to tie in the new concrete with the old then fix the chain to some more rebar at depth. Use a good quality cement and allow to cure for some time. Do it once, do it right!

should be a nice visual deterent. but still nothing they couldnt get past.

G

My other thought, (and this was a serious one) was to weld a 4 inch bar sharpened to a point to a steel plate that I could sit upon the drivers seat and lock into place, But I havn't figured out how to lock it to the seat!

Gordo 90 said:

I was thinking of taking up one flagstone, Digging down say 2 feet dropping a really heavy chain in the middle and fill it with concrete! It's just where to lock the other end to?

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Hemmmm! the rear axel :ballchain: or the wiper :car:

Most newer landys stolen are taken by either towing, imobiliser bypassing or Hi-abbing/trailoring away.

Turn the steering on full lock and then fit a disc lock. These take quite a while to get off and require lots of noise to be made. The oiks can't turn your steering wheel or break the steering lock with one fitted. This means theives can't tow/drive it away. It is also VERY difficult (although not impossible) to load a landy with the steering on full lock onto a trailer or flat bed truck. If the wannabe theives are using a Hi-ab to take your vehicle, it is impossible to remove a landy without damaging it if wheels on full lock,when using damage free wheel clamps. The wings will also get crushed if lifting by chains or strops too. This makes much more noise, attracts unwanted attention and also makes your landy far less desireable.

Fit a clutch claw to the pedals aswell as fitting a disclock. This prevents the brake or clutch being used.

I'm not gonna say anything more about the why's or how's but please just trust me on this. RELOCATE THE ALARM SOUNDER FROM IT'S CURRENT POSITION. Just trust me that there is a VERY good reason for doing this.

You've got the best idea with the fuel pump switch. The secret is to hide it so well they can't work out it's disabled and just think it wont start. I used to take the ignition leads off my Astra GTE, 3 times it got stolen and in the end it was written off as they jacked it up under the middle of the floor pan to get the wheels off. Absolutely f**ked the bodyshell.

I liked these switches as I was searching for something that went in your pocket and without it the car simply wouldn't start. Not so much a key but a physical thing, like the HT leads on my Astra but small enough to go in your pocket. Under the seat in my model there's a 100 amp fuse, but its too fiddly to be practical. Hence the master switch idea. I still think it might work if put somewhere obscure, so I can use it if parked somewhere dodgy, like Africa. Trouble is the more kit we fit on the Landy's the more attractive they are to steal, winches etc.

I'll have the bonnet up tomorrow and take a look Ratty!

jzcktv said:

I'll have the bonnet up tomorrow and take a look Ratty!

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In South Africa lots of older cars I've driven (and there's been lots my mate owning a classic car hire place) have anti hijack/theft devices. They work in one of two ways. Either a master switch arrangement - normally just a simple toggle switch hidden somewhere unlikely that must be switched on before starting.

More interestingly there are systems that after 30 seconds to a minute require a hidden button to be pressed - failing to do so cuts the engine and causes the alarm to activate. The idea being they allow the person with gun who hijacked you to drive away a couple of hundred meters before stopping the car - you are a safe distance away from person with gun and your car is stopped with sight of you in the hope the failed hijacker can be apprehended and the car recovered. These systems were most often fitted to Merc 500SL convertibles circa 1980.

I suppose, though if someone is towing/lifting your Landy neither is going to help you much - maybe I'll just leave my girlfriend in the passenger seat when I arrive in England - her constant nagging about driving will but any would be thief off, pronto.