Fuel pump not working.

steve2286w said:

He might have got fuel and air?

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He isn't. He says no fuel comes out at the bleed screw on the filter head, despite several attempts.

I’ve twin tanks on mine with separate valves , the passenger tank is empty, I managed to turn slightly the lever on empty tank and it ran rough and would not rev , when I noticed and closed the valve the filter must have been about empty I assumed it was easier for the pump to pull in air than diesel

Turboman said:

He isn't. He says no fuel comes out at the bleed screw on the filter head, despite several attempts.

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He may have got a mouthful of air and diesel I meant to say
As pump just been overhauled shouldn’t think it would split straight away
Putting a gravity feed to pump would prove pump ok if it primes and then prob with sucking air in

steve2286w said:

I’ve twin tanks on mine with separate valves , the passenger tank is empty, I managed to turn slightly the lever on empty tank and it ran rough and would not rev , when I noticed and closed the valve the filter must have been about empty I assumed it was easier for the pump to pull in air than diesel

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With a single tank, and the end of the pipe under the level of diesel in the tank, it should only pull in diesel, unless there is a crack in the pipe somewhere, in which case it will pull in air.
No experience of twin tanks, but I have bled and started dozens of Perkins engines. In Land Rovers, Tractors, Boats, Generators, etc.

steve2286w said:

He may have got a mouthful of air and diesel I meant to say
As pump just been overhauled shouldn’t think it would split straight away
Putting a gravity feed to pump would prove pump ok if it primes and then prob with sucking air in

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Missed the bit where he said the lift pump had been overhauled. In that case, I can only imagine he hasn't pumped it enough, or the lift pump is on the cam. I just don't see how you can get a problem with those, they are pretty simple.
Gravity feed from a can or similar is a good idea.

Okay gents after an extremely cold, windy and stressful evening. I rebuilt the lift pump. Turns out the pump mechanism wasn't engaging and therefore not creating a vaccum. After reconnecting everything ( sigh ) there is now fuel getting to the filter. Feels like there is a lot of pressure and diesel is bubbling out of the top of the brass instrument i pictured. Ive cracked the injectors and turned the engine over and not diesel or bubbling is coming from injectors. Whats next ? Sorry if i sound like such a novice all my engine knowledge so far is petrol carbs. First time learning diesel

On the series you first prime to get diesel coming out of filter then prime the fuel injection pump , I don’t know about the Perkins but @Turboman will
Big step forward though

steve2286w said:

On the series you first prime to get diesel coming out of filter then prime the fuel injection pump , I don’t know about the Perkins but @Turboman will
Big step forward though

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Very similar set up to standard Land Rover, except the Injector Pump is horizontal, not upright.
Lift pump is exactly the same, little round one, driven by a cam on the camshaft, hand pump underneath.

Series tree said:

Okay gents after an extremely cold, windy and stressful evening. I rebuilt the lift pump. Turns out the pump mechanism wasn't engaging and therefore not creating a vaccum. After reconnecting everything ( sigh ) there is now fuel getting to the filter. Feels like there is a lot of pressure and diesel is bubbling out of the top of the brass instrument i pictured. Ive cracked the injectors and turned the engine over and not diesel or bubbling is coming from injectors. Whats next ? Sorry if i sound like such a novice all my engine knowledge so far is petrol carbs. First time learning diesel

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When you are sure there is clear fuel coming from the bleed screw on the filter head, tighten the screw. Then leave it for a bit, come back, and loosen the screw, and pump again on hand primer. There will be a lot of air in the system if you have rebuilt it.

Then, when you are sure the filter is full of clean fuel, no air, look at the top of the governor housing on the injection pump, there will be a small bleed screw. Loosen it, and pump again on the hand pump, until clear fuel emerges from the screw. Put a bucket underneath while all this is going on, you may need to pump quite a bit of fuel through.
When you are sure the injection pump is full of fuel, tighten the bleed screw on the injector pump.

Get someone to sit in the vehicle, and turn the engine over. While they do this, loosen an injector pipe at the injector end. When you see drips of fuel, tighten the pipe. Engine will start.

Okay i shall try it this weekend or tomorrow if i get time. Fingers crossed. Thank you very much fir your response

Hey guys i bled the main pump, cracked an injector and within 5 seconds she started ! God that is a great feeling. If you both message me your address i will send you some beers to say thanks !

That’s thanks enough, we all need a bit of help sometimes, glad you have sorted it, I’ve had mine maybe 15 years and still learning , you can crack on with the welding now

Series tree said:

Hey guys i bled the main pump, cracked an injector and within 5 seconds she started ! God that is a great feeling. If you both message me your address i will send you some beers to say thanks !

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Not a problem. Glad you got it started.
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