Disco 2 freelander td4 2001 -> disccovery td5 2001

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sergio60

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Hi, I am currently the owner of a freelander td4 of 2001 with 305000 km that unfortunately is starting to show signs of age, the paint on the bonnet is peeling, the engine has lost power and from time to time does not start except after waiting 5 min. I've always done regular maintenance, but I don't know if it's worth invest other money on it, as most of the expensive parts I've already replaced, or moving to another vehicle.
In particular a friend of mine,suggested me a discovery 2 td5 from 2001 with 105000km (it seems to me the first series looking at the headlights from the photos he sent me), he says it seems new. The owner wants 5000 euro negotiable.
I haven't seen the vehicle yet, before I would like collect your general impressions of the vehicle, and which are the aspects and points to be verified on the vehicle.
I know that I would go from an SUV to an off-road vehicle, but is the game worth the candle? A 18 years old discovery, assuming it is actually in good condition, could be a valid replacement or am I going to afford maintenance/repair costs that would perhaps make it more convenient to repair the freelander?
Thank you in advance for advice and suggestions that would surely be useful to me.
P.s. excuse me for my poor english
Thanks
Sergio
 
Excuse my poor Italian Discovery changed over to 2 about 1998. This was the reverse of the problems instead of the Discovery 1 issue of body rot if uncared for at the rear and the sills. While the later Discovery 2 has the issue of the rear chassis being a rot box but the body not bad. Earlier models tend to have 200 300 v8s or mpi for foreign market while 1998 onwards were TD5 and V8s. Discovery 1s if in any good condition or unmolested are becoming rare but worth keeping as a possible classic. Discovery 2 with all the modern gubbins taken care or unmolested are worth keeping. Could another option on the freelander front in buying a very late freelander 1
 
Sergio60, Ciao! If that is how you write it!
That's the end of my Italian!
First off, Saxavordian is absolutely right, Disco 2s do only rust in the rear chassis, and this can be relatively easily repaired if caught in time, but if you come from Italy, then I would suspect that your dry climate will make this not an issue, but if in doubt, crawl under the rear of the vehicle and look at where the chassis members dip down before they go off to the tow bar mounts, that is where the rust starts.
It will be a TD5, all Disco 2s were either TD5 or petrol V8.
105000 kilometres is NOTHING to a TD5, especially if it has been well maintained. You are lucky to find one with a kilometrage as low as that. I am quite jealous!
Inside check a/ that there are no lights lit on the dashboard, once the engine is running. Also check that all the electrical equipment works, i.e. windows, sliding roof windows, (called sunshine roofs in English), if you test drive it, make sure you stop, put it into neutral, then put the high-low range lever into low range, then drive away as normal. If that works, stop, put it into neutral again, move the short lever back into High, then drive off again.
Under the bonnet check all fluids are where they should be and take the top off the coolant expansion bottle, if the engine is hot, do it while the engine is running, slowly, to ensure you do not burn yourself. Pinch the coolant return pipe to stop in running for a bit and watch to see if bubbles are coming up from the main pipe. It may be just a tiny little bubble from time to time. This could indicate cylinder head sealing problems, i.e. head gasket or head in need of skimming.
Check around the exhaust manifold, to do this you need to have first removed the engine cover, two bolts and 1 nut. You are looking for exhaust blowing from the manifold to head joint, but this is EXTREMELY unlikely on a car that has done so few kilometres. So, in fact, secondthoughts, I would not bother, unless you can hear a whistling noise that is not coming from the auxiliary drive belt, which you should check for as well.
Apart from that, check the service history to see how m,uch has been done and by whom. If it has done so few kilometres it may well have been well treated.
I do not know about prices in Italy but I know that in France this would be a real bargain. If it seems like too much of a bargain then I would be a bit suspicious and question the owner really deeply about why they are selling it. In France one like mine with 150000 MILES on it, is worth about €6500. The Disco 2 does has a lot more electrics on it than a Disco 1, but then it is more powerful, in many ways more practical as the boot is bigger, and, if maintained properly, is just as economical. You can expect 30 miles per gallon, or, for you, about 9.3 litres per 100 kms. On a long drive such as on a motorway but not going at the top limit. As standard it comes with Hill Descent Control, Advanced Cornering Enhancement (usually), and Traction Control. You may well get air conditioning. You may also get 7 seats.
If towing is important to you you can tow 3.5 tonnes with it.

So I would suggest you go and have a look at it. If there are faults with it, get back to us and we will be able to give you a rough idea of what the problem might be and how serious the fault actually is.
Best of luck
 
I agree with Stanleysteamer, 5k€ seems to be a really good price if the 105000km is real and the car is in good condition. Regarding on rust, if it is from south Italy than you are lucky, but if it is from the north, check the rust (check it anyway).
 
Thank you for your detailed and helpful explanation!
I hope in the next days to see and check the discovery.
ciao
Sergio
 
I just looked at my service and repairs history on my 1999 D2 TD5 and at 105K, the only parts I had to change besides the service items were the injector harness and the oil pump bolt as a precaution.This should give you a rough idea of what to expect at that mileage, i.e. if too many components have been replaced on that D2, I'd be on my guard. BTW, mine is LHD too but without self levelling suspensions, ACE and sun roofs but with climate control and CDL.

Now at 306K, I can easily say that it's the best vehicle I ever owned. It's easy to maintain by a DIY enthusiast and parts, manuals + online support are widely availaible. Just make a budget to buy yourself a compatible OBD scanner like Nanocom, HawkEye, Lynx, etc. and download a copy of the Rave CD workshop manual.

In bocca al lupo
 
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