Freelander rear door - another thread !!!

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Ok the back door on our 2005 3 door won't open ! When the boot handle is pressed there is no movement of the rear window and no solenoid 'click' at all. The interior light does dim very slightly when the boot handle is pressed though ?

I've removed the rear door interior trim panel (and weather sheet) from inside the boot, but everything inside looks shiny and new - regulator cables seem to be perfectly intact and everything looks to be in place.

Any ideas where to go from here guys ? I've searched through all the relevant threads but can't see any obvious things to check now ?

I might try disconnecting the battery - then reconnecting to see if that helps to re-set anything ?

Many thanks in advance to anyone who has any ideas or overcome a similar problem.

:)
 
As it handles about a 3 door I wonder whether that contact which is someplace there to see whether the roof is on has something to do with this ??
 
if it thought the roof was off, the window would be all the way down and wouldn't come up.

Will the window drive down by the switch on the dash ? have you checked fuse and relay ?

tailgate won't open until window has dropped.
 
Thanks for the replies guys :)

The rear window will not lower with the center console switch. The fuses for rear window are fine. The rear wiper / washer still works fine.

I haven't physically replaced the relay for the window but believe it is ok (still clicking). Might try the relay next, but I'm doubtful that it's causing the problem.

:confused:
 
Thanks for all the replies so far guys :)
I've done a bit more investigation into the rear window / door problem - have disconnected the battery and then reconnected, the rear window / door are still doing the same (nothing), however now when I try to lower the rear window I get four beeps from the dashboard area ? I'm guessing this must mean something ?

Any ideas ? I've read on another forum that replacing the window relays (behind rear suspension trim panel) might be the next place to look ?

:confused:
 
IIRC the earth point is where the relay is
Try swapping it with one of the other relays under the dash.

With your light dimming, she is obviously getting power to the handle
 
well the beeps would seem to indicate that the ccu has received a request to lower the window so i agree that the rear window relay is the next thing to check.
Once you sort the window operation then the door should open as normal.
 
if you dissconect the battery for over ten seconds and re connect ,then the rear window should lower [a good test] then you should drive window up all the way , then open rear and window should patial lower and door open ,if not go to window reset procedure as stated . . . . .:)
 
Hmmm another update, wife came back this morning and informed me that the door / window are now working normally ? ! ? ! ?

I'm thinking of lubricating everything in sight while I've got the chance, maybe disconnecting the battery yesterday did some good after all. Although it definitely wasn't working straight afterwards - just beeping ?

The window didn't lower itself after disconnecting the battery yesterday - in fact it did nothing at all.
 
omega said:
Hmmm another update, wife came back this morning and informed me that the door / window are now working normally ? ! ? ! ?

I'm thinking of lubricating everything in sight while I've got the chance, maybe disconnecting the battery yesterday did some good after all. Although it definitely wasn't working straight afterwards - just beeping ?

The window didn't lower itself after disconnecting the battery yesterday - in fact it did nothing at all.
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hmmm. . . . .culd be Bob Marleying. . . .
 
Another update guys...... :)

The rear door/window stopped working again a couple of weeks ago. This time I've had the trim panel off the side of the boot and swapped the rear wiper relay for the window motor relay.. Result is as previously - the window still won't lower/door won't open but the rear wiper works fine ?!!?!?

Any suggestions what to try next ? I'm leaning more towards the problem being with the motor itself (but then again it did start working for a while).

Do the window motor and regulator come as a single unit - or can they be purchased seperately ?

? ? ? ? ?
 
Check for damaged wiring by the tail light and in the rubber sleeve between the pillar and the tail door.
 
Your problem is the window regulator. When it gets too tough to move, the motor simply shorts and dims the courtesy light. My vehicle was doing exactly the same.

I would remove the tailgate glass, then remove the regulator complete. You can then seperate the motor and test on the vehicle. With motor removed try and move the cables. Mine were really tough, so I unclipped the spring clips (4 that look like hair grips) and then worked until it was very free. I then set the tension (refitting two of the clips) and refiutted back into the tailgate.

I tired testing the motor before removing from vehicle by passing 12v across the terminals with the largest wires - this was a direct short and blew my 30amp fuse - lucky!!

Hope you get it sorted matey,

Regards,

Steve
 
Thanks Steve I'll try removing the regulator / motor next. And thanks everyone else so far for the responses :)

Another update - I disconnected the battery at the weekend and now the rear door solenoid releases the door when the handle is pressed but the window still doesn't lower at all (the 4 fault beeps are back again). Also the rear wiper / washer have stopped working since disconnecting the battery ????

I'm now wondering if the regulator is too stiff (or motor is faulty) and eventually when trying to lower the window the 'system' goes into some kind of fault mode and prevents even the solenoid operating ?
 
the 4 beeps are because the window isn't calibrated. because it isn't calibrated, the rear wash wipe won't work, because the controller can't tell whether the window is open or closed, so assumes open for safety.

Disconnect battery for 10 mins. when you reconnect, glass should lower fully. then drive window closed using dashboard switch (obviously with ignition on). The window should then be calibrated an normal service resumed.

If the window won't lower, might be worth getting an assistant to reconnect the battery while you check the rear glass and regulator. if it seems like it's straining, it's probably causing the problem.
 
Just thought I'd update the thread, spent a couple of hours removing the regulator/motor/rear window yesterday. Everthing looked fine when removed from vehicle.

The only really tricky bit was getting the regulator rails out of the door, ideally you need the window wound down about half way to be able to unbolt the clamps which hold the glass to the regulator brackets - I could'nt do that because the window was stuck in the up position. I discovered (eventually) that I could actuall pull the window straight up out of the clamps if I pulled hard enough - then remove it. That gave me just about enough room to force the regulator rails down into the door :)

In the end I seperated the motor from the regulator (8 torx screws) plugged the motor back in the loom and watched it wizzing round - motor was fine.

I then took Steve's advice (G13SJC) and starting looking at the regulator itself. VERY stiff indeed, spent a bit of time re-greasing it and moving it by hand, managed to free it up a bit.

When I put everything back together the window moves as normal !!! :)

Still a bit slow when coming back up, but that just proves I actually need a new regulator. I'll leave it as it is until it packs up again then just buy a new regulator/motor off ebay :)

Phew ! a result finally ! Thanks for everyone's advice !

Original symptoms of my problem...


Window wouldn't lower at all.
Boot wouldn't unlock.
Rear wiper/washer wouldn't work.
After disconnecting / reconnecting the battery I was getting four beeps when pressing the window switch 'down' on the console.
 
Well done and many thanks for the updates particularly the highlighted symptoms text which will help users searching for answers to similar problems. This thread certainly highlights the advantages of lubricating the window mechanisms, as LR never did, to avoid similar problems.
 
Glad you got it sorted matey - did you try removing the spring clips and slackening the cable a little??

This seemed to work for me and now been fine for over three months since rebuild.

Regards,

Steve
 
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