Flippin My Lid...EAS

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Did the pump & block a few months back and stupidly fannied around with height settings, but it worked until recently. One day a couple of months or more back she sat down on me so I fitted the temp valves and ran her like that.

Now I've been feeling pretty sore last year or so, but past few months it's mostly reasonable so yesterday I took my painkillers and set about swapping to winter wheels. Should have taken 20/30 mins tops, but took me 2hrs of faff as I have no strength in left arm. I jacked the wheels about 10mm off the ground and used a lever to lift the winters on and once the nuts were on, I spun them up with my battery gun and torqued in normal fashion. But after each wheel I needed about five minutes just to rest.

Anyway, I also fitted my "new" push fit chrome shrader valves to make raising & lowering easier until I found why she dropped. But the damn things leak like a political secret! :( I checked the sensors when I changed the wheels over and all are solid with connected bits intact. However, I didn't (stupidly) check the electrical connections, but will do tomorrow or Wednesday when I go to see my mate at his garage.

So other than pump (working perfectly as I use it to charge up the tank for using my airline to inflate the bags) valve block & sensors, what else can be wrong?

Is it possibly the valves in the block that have crapped out? I didn't replace them at the time although I do have replacements somewhere in the house (bought them on here just after I did the block service). I have a whole replacement valve block I plan on fitting soon as I find the missing new valves.

It was driving fine and the rear went down, not super quick, but unexpectedly and it took the front a good few minutes to lower itself down. I was on a busy road at the time with no opportunity to stop.

All the bags stay up for weeks at a time (until I fitted those bloody awful shrader things) so I know they are fine and the pipes are new. The tank does lose air over a week or so, but very slowly. Could that be a/the cause? And if so, is there a vent valve on it or should I simply get a replacement tank?

Thanks lads & ladies :)
 
hi doo , p.m. wammers he's an expert here on diesel's and e.a.s, .. tell him send me cake now as al's cake factory on the wirrall has closed down , " you cant trust these plastic scousers " ho ho ho
 
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Did the pump & block a few months back and stupidly fannied around with height settings, but it worked until recently. One day a couple of months or more back she sat down on me so I fitted the temp valves and ran her like that.

Now I've been feeling pretty sore last year or so, but past few months it's mostly reasonable so yesterday I took my painkillers and set about swapping to winter wheels. Should have taken 20/30 mins tops, but took me 2hrs of faff as I have no strength in left arm. I jacked the wheels about 10mm off the ground and used a lever to lift the winters on and once the nuts were on, I spun them up with my battery gun and torqued in normal fashion. But after each wheel I needed about five minutes just to rest.

Anyway, I also fitted my "new" push fit chrome shrader valves to make raising & lowering easier until I found why she dropped. But the damn things leak like a political secret! :( I checked the sensors when I changed the wheels over and all are solid with connected bits intact. However, I didn't (stupidly) check the electrical connections, but will do tomorrow or Wednesday when I go to see my mate at his garage.

So other than pump (working perfectly as I use it to charge up the tank for using my airline to inflate the bags) valve block & sensors, what else can be wrong?

Is it possibly the valves in the block that have crapped out? I didn't replace them at the time although I do have replacements somewhere in the house (bought them on here just after I did the block service). I have a whole replacement valve block I plan on fitting soon as I find the missing new valves.

It was driving fine and the rear went down, not super quick, but unexpectedly and it took the front a good few minutes to lower itself down. I was on a busy road at the time with no opportunity to stop.

All the bags stay up for weeks at a time (until I fitted those bloody awful shrader things) so I know they are fine and the pipes are new. The tank does lose air over a week or so, but very slowly. Could that be a/the cause? And if so, is there a vent valve on it or should I simply get a replacement tank?

Thanks lads & ladies :)
put it back to standard, the more joints you have the more chances of leaks. Have you checked the diaphragm. See Wammers how to as Mozz the cake munching Manc said
 
Hi all, I may have muddied the waters a bit by telling the shraders leak..... Forget them, bastards that they are :mad: I'll put the plastic fantastic valves back on in the meantime.

Anyhoo, didn't get on the ramp today, he was busy and I helped :) although I am thoroughly shattered :confused: Been a year since I did anything like work (although I didn't do any actual physical stuff, I was there and I suggested different ways of doing things which helped ;) ).

Back to topic, so I have turned the house upside down for those wee NRV's I bought from one of the guys on here. I know what the NRV's look like, but NO idea of the envelope the arrived in as I am 100% convinced they are still in that and stored somewhere so if he remembers posting to Inverness, I wouldn't mind the member reminding me who he was and how he sent the valves :D I have turned my storage boxes upside down to no avail. I have all the new "O" rings and whatnot, but no point tearing into the replacement valve block without replacing the valves o_O

Bah! :(
 
Hi all, I may have muddied the waters a bit by telling the shraders leak..... Forget them, bastards that they are :mad: I'll put the plastic fantastic valves back on in the meantime.

Anyhoo, didn't get on the ramp today, he was busy and I helped :) although I am thoroughly shattered :confused: Been a year since I did anything like work (although I didn't do any actual physical stuff, I was there and I suggested different ways of doing things which helped ;) ).

Back to topic, so I have turned the house upside down for those wee NRV's I bought from one of the guys on here. I know what the NRV's look like, but NO idea of the envelope the arrived in as I am 100% convinced they are still in that and stored somewhere so if he remembers posting to Inverness, I wouldn't mind the member reminding me who he was and how he sent the valves :D I have turned my storage boxes upside down to no avail. I have all the new "O" rings and whatnot, but no point tearing into the replacement valve block without replacing the valves o_O

Bah! :(
It was @kurtjohnson10 if memory serves
 
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Tanks rarely leak but Dopey had a leak from his air dryer recently. Occasionally the pins to the driver pack act up.

A leak from the drier can only effect tank filling when compressor is active. It cannot contribute to falling corners.
 
A leak from the drier can only effect tank filling when compressor is active. It cannot contribute to falling corners.

That's kinda what I was thinking. I was belting along at 70mph and it felt a bit funny, then I sensed the arse end going down down down and bumpity bump. It took a while for the front to get the idea before it settled down too.

I've since (obviously) inflated them and all corners were holding their own with the plastic fantastic valves.

I bridge the pump connections and it fills the tank enough to inflate all corners to full height AND inflate all four tyres by several psi.

So other than my old NRV's, I can't think why the back end suddenly went down... I need a hoodgy wottsit for code readings :(
 
GOOOOOOOOD NEWWWWS.... Found them! :);):cool:

They were EXACTLY where I thought they were, and even though I'd looked, I hadn't been thorough enough! o_O

I emptied the bubble envelope, and then emptied ALL the snaplock baggies and there, in between two of them were the valves :D:cool:;)

So, in the next few days, I will mostly be rebuilding a valve block that I got foc from a car that had been converted to springs, likely because of the same issues mine is currently suffering. I fitted shut off valves yesterday and thought I could also fit "T" unions so the shraders could be used, but the air couldn't flow back out and all was well... Which it is :) but isn't :( The shut off's work fine, but the EAS has told the valves to remain open which allowed all the airbags to deflate again soon as I fired her up :confused:

So I simply removed the "T" connectors and hooked the shut off valves to the lines and the shraders to the valves. She's exactly how I left her so far...

........but it needs actual air added or removed mechanically which is a bit of a pain when you are doing less than fifty, then have to go over fifty, which then requires you to crawl out onto the bonnet with a brick on the throttle (because while the EAS is out the cruise doesn't work) which can have a bit of an effect on a bumpy road, anyway, trying to plug in my airline is a pain, but with the rain and snow flying in your face, trying to locate the rear left or front right shrader valve is, at best, somewhat involved and at worst, a serious pain in the hole :p
 
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