Fix for annoying 300 mAh SLABS battery drain

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If you use your Disco everyday: no problem.
If you live in a sunny place where temperatures will not fall under -15C: no problem.

BUT when you leave for a 2 week break you might find the battery of the Disco dead. Or when you use a Webasto heater to cope with the arctic temperatures that hit Norway for about 6 months AND make 2 short daily trips only - the battery needs all the charge it can get, no place for a nasty 300 mA constant drain.

But finally fixed it. You can read numerous treads about the well known 300 mA drain caused by the SLABS ECU. Problem is that this ECU is always connected to the battery via fuse 11 (30A) (standing in front of the fuse box check the label on the cover or count from right to left). I always wondered why the ABS modulator was making space invader sounds like woy-woy-woy-woy but this is because the SLABS ECU powers the ABS Pump/modulator. Removed the connector from the modulator, but 300 mA drain stayed. Pulled fuse 11 and bingo! drain reduced to 27 mA. You can even hear a soft click when a relay inside the SLABS ECU de-energizes.

Just imagine. The 100 Ah battery can produce (in theory) 100 Amperes for one hour. A drain of 300 mAh means it will take 333 hours before the battery is dead. However to crank a Td5 you need at least 60-80 amperes for a couple of seconds. This means that (in my case) not using the car for 2 weeks, or in harsh winter conditions like we have here with -20 C for a number of days, short trips AND the extra 300 mA drain cause problems.

To keep a long story short, pin 2 (C0504 which is the biggest connector on the ECU, 2nd seen from bulkhead) receives 12V through the ignition lock. I use this connection to energize a relay (taking the ground from pin 12 of same connector). The power supply for the SLABS ECU via fuse 11 is now running via the relay contacts to pin 1 of same connector. Meaning: no key no drain.

The Self Leveling function inside the same ECU still works, so after shutting the engine and removing the key and locking the car the ECU still lowers the rear suspension a bit as usual.

<Edit> I was wrong with the SLS statement directly above. When you come to a full stop i.e. reached your destination you have to give the SLS 10 seconds to lower the rear springs. If you stop and immediately remove the key the springs keep sittin' where they are.

This MUST be one of the reasons to keep the SLABS ECU under power at all times. But for a turbo engine it won't harm having it spin down before you remove the key, so still consider this to be a fix. You could easily replace the relay with a timed relay that will hold its contacts for 1 min. 10 min. 1 hour... everything is possible</Edit>

I am now free from this annoying drain that has been there since 2004 when I bought the car. No worries about safety, the relay is an original LR item and prone to the same MTBF as all the other relays in the car, and the ECU does so many checks that any problem in the system will be detected.

Images show how easy the process is, takes about 30 minutes.
 

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Thanks to this forum, i modified my disco today after suffering flat battaries for days, here is what ive done with a 30a relay.
more images to follow with ign wire etc
 

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I'm curious about the effect of that on long term cos that drain from SLABS is not supposed to last more than 1.5 hours after the ignition was off, that's set from factory as to not reset the counter which protects the compressor from ecxeeding it's duty cycle and 1.5 hours of extra 250mA drain should not flatten a good battery ... considering that the drain is there all the time is a common mistake cos usually when somebody wants to measure it opens the door first to release the bonnet and a door open signal energises the SLABS for 30 minutes also with a reason(it's explained in the system's description) so off course that the extra drain will be there again like it was there all the time while it wasnt... provided there's not some other fault present which keeps the SLABS under power constantly then that fault should be fixed rather than "bypass'' it with a relay...IMO this "mod"(which can be called bodge) would only reset the counter all the time and that can lead to compressor failure due to exceeded duty cycle if a bag is leaking so if you want to keep the SLS in case of a bag leak you might have to buy the bag + spend on fixing or replaceing the compressor....not some brilliant ideea IMO
 
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hi thanks for the reply, i dont have bags previous owner replaced them with springs and guessing TSB was not done, going forward i will probably either fix the issue by removing the slabs and sorting tsb through main dealer. my battery is brand new wirh correct d2 part number. its charging fine and holds the charge for days with it disconnected from car.
regards
 
I'm curious about the effect of that on long term cos that drain from SLABS is not supposed to last more than 1.5 hours after the ignition was off, that's set from factory as to not reset the counter which protects the compressor from ecxeeding it's duty cycle and 1.5 hours of extra 250mA drain should not flatten a good battery ... considering that the drain is there all the time is a common mistake cos usually when somebody wants to measure it opens the door first to release the bonnet and a door open signal energises the SLABS for 30 minutes also with a reason(it's explained in the system's description) so off course that the extra drain will be there again like it was there all the time while it wasnt... provided there's not some other fault present which keeps the SLABS under power constantly then that fault should be fixed rather than "bypass'' it with a relay...IMO this "mod"(which can be called bodge) would only reset the counter all the time and that can lead to compressor failure due to exceeded duty cycle if a bag is leaking so if you want to keep the SLS in case of a bag leak you might have to buy the bag + spend on fixing or replaceing the compressor....not some brilliant ideea IMO

i fell into that trap at first , regarding the first 30 x mins, remember u then telling me about it , which was a great help,

did have to replace my battery , it was going flat after 3 x days , now will last at least 2 x weeks without being used

may i ask what does slabs stand for plse

thks as always
 
hi thanks for the reply, i dont have bags previous owner replaced them with springs and guessing TSB was not done, going forward i will probably either fix the issue by removing the slabs and sorting tsb through main dealer. my battery is brand new wirh correct d2 part number. its charging fine and holds the charge for days with it disconnected from car.
regards
Maybe the SLS warning was blanked and the system was not disabled with tester, find somebody with dedicated tester and set the system to coils, you can't remove ethe SLABS cos it manages the ABS too... so @gstuart that's the explanation: SLABS = Self Levelling + ABS ECU
 
Maybe the SLS warning was blanked and the system was not disabled with tester, find somebody with dedicated tester and set the system to coils, you can't remove ethe SLABS cos it manages the ABS too... so @gstuart that's the explanation: SLABS = Self Levelling + ABS ECU

a true gent as always , thks

know that every 6 x hours the system wakes up and levels the suspension, or drops in my case, lol, as i've got a small air leak on the front , so the rest of the suspension drops to that level

don't u just adore a landy , would be boring owning anything else ;)
 
know that every 6 x hours the system wakes up and levels the suspension, or drops in my case, lol, as i've got a small air leak on the front , so the rest of the suspension drops to that level
That "periodic re-levelling" function can work only downwards so it will drop in any case or just stay where it was ;)
 
That "periodic re-levelling" function can work only downwards so it will drop in any case or just stay where it was ;)

totally agree, at first i thought the compressor came on and self levelled but after a good amount of reading i understood it worked as you've said

have either a bad strut or leak on the front passenger side strut , as overnight the rest of the struts all drop down to that front one

amazes me in a way of how much technology has been put onto a landy over the years , see the new ones have sonar on the bottom of the wing mirrors to see the depth of the water ur wading in
 
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