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Mark Solesbury

Guest
Evening

On the way to the pub tonight (as it was my turn to cook :)) the bastard
exhaust came off.

The previous owner has removed the last backbox, and moved the exhaust
output up a bit, through the body so its out of the way...

if im lucky, i can get someone to weld a bit of straight pipe on the end
of where its broken off from a but joint and just bolt it back on...

Well thats the plan.. Can you weld exhaust pipe? I assume so...


--
Mark
90 90 200tdi - Fixed :)
87 RR V8 EFI - Sorn'd

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On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:02:45 +0100, Mark Solesbury
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Evening
>
>On the way to the pub tonight (as it was my turn to cook :)) the bastard
>exhaust came off.
>
>The previous owner has removed the last backbox, and moved the exhaust
>output up a bit, through the body so its out of the way...
>
>if im lucky, i can get someone to weld a bit of straight pipe on the end
>of where its broken off from a but joint and just bolt it back on...
>
>Well thats the plan.. Can you weld exhaust pipe? I assume so...

yep, you can weld it though if its really rusty it can take a bit of
effort and disturbing the exhaust to weld one bit can often snap
another rusty bit!

Find a mate who has a welder and give him some beers! if its right at
the end and easy to get to it is only a quick job!
 
Mark Solesbury <[email protected]> uttered
summat worrerz funny about:
> Evening
>
> On the way to the pub tonight (as it was my turn to cook :)) the
> bastard exhaust came off.
>
> The previous owner has removed the last backbox, and moved the exhaust
> output up a bit, through the body so its out of the way...
>
> if im lucky, i can get someone to weld a bit of straight pipe on the
> end of where its broken off from a but joint and just bolt it back
> on...
> Well thats the plan.. Can you weld exhaust pipe? I assume so...

Yup... though I'd look at it as an opportunity to eliminate something else
from your restricted power list of things it could be.

From what I recall of my Diesel how did you actually know ;-)

Lee D


 
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:21:54 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mark Solesbury <[email protected]> uttered
>summat worrerz funny about:
>> Evening
>>
>> On the way to the pub tonight (as it was my turn to cook :)) the
>> bastard exhaust came off.
>>
>> The previous owner has removed the last backbox, and moved the exhaust
>> output up a bit, through the body so its out of the way...
>>
>> if im lucky, i can get someone to weld a bit of straight pipe on the
>> end of where its broken off from a but joint and just bolt it back
>> on...
>> Well thats the plan.. Can you weld exhaust pipe? I assume so...
>
>Yup... though I'd look at it as an opportunity to eliminate something else
>from your restricted power list of things it could be.
>
>From what I recall of my Diesel how did you actually know ;-)

I could only tell with mine that it was broken when i drove past
somewhere with walls on either side and you notice that you sound
(more) like a tractor.
When it snapped a couple of foot from the manifold I could tell
because everybody was staring at me!

With marks being a turbo the exhaust should be quieter than an N/A
anyhow.
 
Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
>
> I could only tell with mine that it was broken when i drove past
> somewhere with walls on either side and you notice that you sound
> (more) like a tractor.
> When it snapped a couple of foot from the manifold I could tell
> because everybody was staring at me!

No.... you just noticed they were staring ;-)

> With marks being a turbo the exhaust should be quieter than an N/A
> anyhow.

Indeed........ enough of this exhaust malarky wheres the piccys of the 101
they call <INSERT NAME HERE>

:-D

Lee D


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On 28/09/2006 21:34, Tom Woods wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:21:54 +0100, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Mark Solesbury <[email protected]> uttered
>> summat worrerz funny about:
>>> Evening
>>>
>>> On the way to the pub tonight (as it was my turn to cook :)) the
>>> bastard exhaust came off.
>>>
>>> The previous owner has removed the last backbox, and moved the exhaust
>>> output up a bit, through the body so its out of the way...
>>>
>>> if im lucky, i can get someone to weld a bit of straight pipe on the
>>> end of where its broken off from a but joint and just bolt it back
>>> on...
>>> Well thats the plan.. Can you weld exhaust pipe? I assume so...
>> Yup... though I'd look at it as an opportunity to eliminate something else
>>from your restricted power list of things it could be.
>>From what I recall of my Diesel how did you actually know ;-)
>
> I could only tell with mine that it was broken when i drove past
> somewhere with walls on either side and you notice that you sound
> (more) like a tractor.
> When it snapped a couple of foot from the manifold I could tell
> because everybody was staring at me!
>
> With marks being a turbo the exhaust should be quieter than an N/A
> anyhow.

It does not sound bad at all - defo drivable. The only way i knew it had
come off as it was vibrating against the chassis making a racket!

Ill get the tail pipe, (which is in the back now) to someone at the
weekend for some welding - Let the bodging begin.

Lee - Do you think that cause its not got a back box that could be
causing the lack of power?

--
Mark
90 90 200tdi - Fixed :)
87 RR V8 EFI - Sorn'd

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ - Firefox Rules!
http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ - FTP Plugin for Firefox
 
Mark Solesbury <[email protected]> uttered
summat worrerz funny about:
> It does not sound bad at all - defo drivable. The only way i knew it
> had come off as it was vibrating against the chassis making a racket!
>
> Ill get the tail pipe, (which is in the back now) to someone at the
> weekend for some welding - Let the bodging begin.
>
> Lee - Do you think that cause its not got a back box that could be
> causing the lack of power?

Someone qualified will be along shortly ----->

But basically anything you do to an Exhaust will either improve it or make
it worse.... LOL!

I should get in to politics ;-)

Lee D


 
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:44:30 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Indeed........ enough of this exhaust malarky wheres the piccys of the 101
>they call <INSERT NAME HERE>

as soon as i get this ****** series 2 movable again i shall refit the
few bits still missing from the silver machine and take some pictures!

a seemingly simple brake fix has now taken around 2 weeks, far too
much money, and 3 trips to see richard! :(
 
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:49:16 +0100, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Mark Solesbury <[email protected]> uttered
>summat worrerz funny about:
>> It does not sound bad at all - defo drivable. The only way i knew it
>> had come off as it was vibrating against the chassis making a racket!
>>
>> Ill get the tail pipe, (which is in the back now) to someone at the
>> weekend for some welding - Let the bodging begin.
>>
>> Lee - Do you think that cause its not got a back box that could be
>> causing the lack of power?
>
>Someone qualified will be along shortly ----->
>
>But basically anything you do to an Exhaust will either improve it or make
>it worse.... LOL!
>
>I should get in to politics ;-)

Assuming my petrol turbo engine knowledge can be transferred to diesel
turbos too..

with a turbo engine generally the quicker you can shift the air out
the better it works and the quicker/easier the turbo will spool up -
so a straight through exhaust on a turbo is good stuff :)

So you only having one silencer box should improve your engine.
removing one from my turbo car made it a lot better - so much so that
im considering loosing the remaining silencer next and going straight
through...

A lack of power on your landy would be more likely due to the existing
backbox being blocked.
 
On 28/09/2006 21:57, Tom Woods wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:49:16 +0100, "Lee_D"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Mark Solesbury <[email protected]> uttered
>> summat worrerz funny about:
>>> It does not sound bad at all - defo drivable. The only way i knew it
>>> had come off as it was vibrating against the chassis making a racket!
>>>
>>> Ill get the tail pipe, (which is in the back now) to someone at the
>>> weekend for some welding - Let the bodging begin.
>>>
>>> Lee - Do you think that cause its not got a back box that could be
>>> causing the lack of power?
>> Someone qualified will be along shortly ----->
>>
>> But basically anything you do to an Exhaust will either improve it or make
>> it worse.... LOL!
>>
>> I should get in to politics ;-)
>
> Assuming my petrol turbo engine knowledge can be transferred to diesel
> turbos too..
>
> with a turbo engine generally the quicker you can shift the air out
> the better it works and the quicker/easier the turbo will spool up -
> so a straight through exhaust on a turbo is good stuff :)
>
> So you only having one silencer box should improve your engine.
> removing one from my turbo car made it a lot better - so much so that
> im considering loosing the remaining silencer next and going straight
> through...
>
> A lack of power on your landy would be more likely due to the existing
> backbox being blocked.

Thanks Tom ;)

--
Mark
90 90 200tdi - Fixed :)
87 RR V8 EFI - Sorn'd

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ - Firefox Rules!
http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ - FTP Plugin for Firefox
 
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:03:11 +0100, Mark Solesbury
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Thanks Tom ;)

btw, did you notice that i linked some pics of your doors in their new
home in that other thread?
 
On 28/09/2006 22:05, Tom Woods wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:03:11 +0100, Mark Solesbury
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Tom ;)
>
> btw, did you notice that i linked some pics of your doors in their new
> home in that other thread?


Yeah, i did see that the other day whilst on site down south.

They look well good. Hope your pleased with em!

Do you still need a pic of the stricker? TBH, your MDF one looks almost
as good as the real thing!

--
Mark
90 90 200tdi - Fixed :)
87 RR V8 EFI - Sorn'd

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ - Firefox Rules!
http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ - FTP Plugin for Firefox
 
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:06:51 +0100, Mark Solesbury
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 28/09/2006 22:05, Tom Woods wrote:
>> On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:03:11 +0100, Mark Solesbury
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Tom ;)
>>
>> btw, did you notice that i linked some pics of your doors in their new
>> home in that other thread?
>
>
>Yeah, i did see that the other day whilst on site down south.
>
>They look well good. Hope your pleased with em!
>
>Do you still need a pic of the stricker? TBH, your MDF one looks almost
>as good as the real thing!

Found a picture in a magazine and noticed that mine didnt look too
different to the proper one! :)
 
On 28/09/2006 21:49, Lee_D wrote:

> But basically anything you do to an Exhaust will either improve it or make
> it worse.... LOL!
>

Its been done to improve off road ability i'd imagine, but i dont ever
seem to have seen an exhaust get caught off road as it is hidden in the
departure angle recess between the wheels and the cross member?

This is where is is now -
http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/my_land_rovers/90_post_rebuild/dscf1775.html

although, id like to know of a cunning way to make the hole a tad
bigger. Cant use a normal hole cutter as there is no middle bit to start
the drill in........

--
Mark
90 90 200tdi - Fixed :)
87 RR V8 EFI - Sorn'd

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ - Firefox Rules!
http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ - FTP Plugin for Firefox
 
Mark Solesbury <[email protected]> uttered
summat worrerz funny about:

> although, id like to know of a cunning way to make the hole a tad
> bigger. Cant use a normal hole cutter as there is no middle bit to
> start the drill in........

Thick card template and a Plasma cutter... template slightly oversize and
used as a guide for the plasmas nozzel.


 
Mark Solesbury wrote:
> On 28/09/2006 21:49, Lee_D wrote:
>
>> But basically anything you do to an Exhaust will either improve it or
>> make it worse.... LOL!
>>
>
> Its been done to improve off road ability i'd imagine, but i dont ever
> seem to have seen an exhaust get caught off road as it is hidden in the
> departure angle recess between the wheels and the cross member?
>
> This is where is is now -
> http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/my_land_rovers/90_post_rebuild/dscf1775.html
>
>
> although, id like to know of a cunning way to make the hole a tad
> bigger. Cant use a normal hole cutter as there is no middle bit to start
> the drill in........
>
A hand nibbler should do the job and not break the bank.

--
EMB
 
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:22:38 +0100, Mark Solesbury
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On 28/09/2006 21:49, Lee_D wrote:
>
>> But basically anything you do to an Exhaust will either improve it or
>> make it worse.... LOL!
>>
>
> Its been done to improve off road ability i'd imagine, but i dont ever
> seem to have seen an exhaust get caught off road as it is hidden in the
> departure angle recess between the wheels and the cross member?
>
> This is where is is now -
> http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/my_land_rovers/90_post_rebuild/dscf1775.html

like the single glass in the rear flanks - is that a kit I can buy-n-fit
or did you have to fabricate it?

> although, id like to know of a cunning way to make the hole a tad
> bigger. Cant use a normal hole cutter as there is no middle bit to start
> the drill in........

can you brace a thin piece of ply to one side?


--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
 
On 29/09/2006 08:13, William Tasso wrote:

> like the single glass in the rear flanks - is that a kit I can buy-n-fit
> or did you have to fabricate it?
>

After the 'ditch' incident, i found them like it already - But they are
loads better than the sliding ones. No rattles and a lot more secure!

--
Mark
90 90 200tdi - Fixed :)
87 RR V8 EFI - Sorn'd

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ - Firefox Rules!
http://fireftp.mozdev.org/ - FTP Plugin for Firefox
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 09:15:20 +0100, Mark Solesbury
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On 29/09/2006 08:13, William Tasso wrote:
>
>> like the single glass in the rear flanks - is that a kit I can
>> buy-n-fit or did you have to fabricate it?
>>
>
> After the 'ditch' incident, i found them like it already - But they are
> loads better than the sliding ones. No rattles and a lot more secure!

yes - no rattles, that's the ticket :)

Unfortunately (or maybe not), the spare sides I have are without windows.
Have to think on that.

--
William Tasso

Land Rover - 110 V8
Discovery - V8
 
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 08:13:30 +0100, "William Tasso"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:22:38 +0100, Mark Solesbury
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 28/09/2006 21:49, Lee_D wrote:
>>
>>> But basically anything you do to an Exhaust will either improve it or
>>> make it worse.... LOL!
>>>
>>
>> Its been done to improve off road ability i'd imagine, but i dont ever
>> seem to have seen an exhaust get caught off road as it is hidden in the
>> departure angle recess between the wheels and the cross member?
>>
>> This is where is is now -
>> http://public.fotki.com/marksolesbury/my_land_rovers/90_post_rebuild/dscf1775.html
>
>like the single glass in the rear flanks - is that a kit I can buy-n-fit
>or did you have to fabricate it?

You mean non-sliding rear windows?

If its anything like a series, get some glass, nibble a hole to fit it
and then use some of the standard glass rubber (the stuff with an
insert) to fit it with.

>> although, id like to know of a cunning way to make the hole a tad
>> bigger. Cant use a normal hole cutter as there is no middle bit to start
>> the drill in........

Colour in the new hole with a marker pen first and then use a file if
you only want it a little bit larger

 
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