Freelander 1 Engine, TC and HD Warning Lights

Hi All!

Am I right in asking question ref Thread Header!!

That you guys and girls driving Freelanders have the same issues we have with out D1 & 2s? The 3 Amigos!!!?

Just looking for some advise from you drivers.

I'm just about to take car for a spin (local) to start the ball rolling for solutions to fix the issues raised!

Thought I had a pic to post for you to look at! But it's just showing Engine warning
But will take one if needed!

Kev

The early Freelander up to '99 have the exact same WABCO ABS (+TC +HDC) system as in D2.

Dunno what system the D1 has - but it wouldn't have the 3 Amigos because its just ABS.

The Freelander suffers the same problems as D2 - including the shuttle valve issues. Basically its a case of reading the fault codes and fixing it, which usually involves replacing stuff like sensors, brake switch or the modulator/pump.

I've owned my F1 for 12 or so years and have had the 3 Amigos twice, both times shuttle valves. I've bought used modulators from breakers. The first one was obviously ropey cos it only lasted a couple of years, but the one I've got now has been running fine for a number of years.

I did get the 3 Amigos 1 other time when I got stuck of a gravel river bed, they came on after being towed off the ridge I was stuck on, but went out again before we got back to tarmac. I presume some grit or summat got into a hub or summat and it cleared.

You can get a shuttle valve replacement part, and there is a quite well known bodge - but I've been able to get 2nd hand modulators quite easily when I've needed them. Dunno if that would be so easy now!

Badger688 said:

Hi All!

Am I right in asking question ref Thread Header!!

That you guys and girls driving Freelanders have the same issues we have with out D1 & 2s? The 3 Amigos!!!?

Just looking for some advise from you drivers.

I'm just about to take car for a spin (local) to start the ball rolling for solutions to fix the issues raised!

Thought I had a pic to post for you to look at! But it's just showing Engine warning
But will take one if needed!

Kev

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Incidentally if you drive a D2 TD5 it not only has the same ABS system, but also has the same engine as my Freelander. All-be-it with an extra cylinder grafted on and common rail injection

The TD5 was a development of the L Series used in Freelander. They share same pistons and stuff - just 5 not 4.

The Freelander TD4 would have been the G Series which was Rover's 4 cylinder version of the TD5 L Series development. But it all went a bit pear shaped and Kraut after that

The Freelander TD4 ended up being the BMW M47 unit.

@GrumpyGel thanks for he reply, i did forget about the D1.

Just taken it for a spin!! Had my reader in! Came back reading front left sensor!!
Cleared all! Before driving away! And came back again but my reader (isoftcar 930) showed no faults after I cleared them? But will get 2nd opinion!! Sometime next week from the garage I use!!

Kev

If it comes to doing the Bypass!! After fixing with new sensor??? I will have to do that!

Also check the Fuel Pressure sensor again!!

Hi, on my 04 auto a couple of times my dog has jumped from the back into the front & stepped on the HDC button & it's brought the '3 amigos' on. I then have to press the HDC button on & off several times to clear it (I have had to replace an faulty ABS sensor before which as you know will also throw the same lights on).

Badger688 said:

@GrumpyGel thanks for he reply, i did forget about the D1.

Just taken it for a spin!! Had my reader in! Came back reading front left sensor!!
Cleared all! Before driving away! And came back again but my reader (isoftcar 930) showed no faults after I cleared them? But will get 2nd opinion!! Sometime next week from the garage I use!!

Kev

If it comes to doing the Bypass!! After fixing with new sensor??? I will have to do that!

Also check the Fuel Pressure sensor again!!

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There will be a code, or else it wouldn't throw the lights.

Looks like you've only got 2 Amigos lit. There is a tables of faults in the Freelander Rave doc that says what the possibilities are for the different combinations of lights lit - if you have the Rave doc for D2, I'm sure it will be in there also. It may be something like the brake switch.