eberspacher sparkplugs

why are they so expensive?

I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber' in
the 101 ambi.
While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
normal plug?

My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:20:22 +0000, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>why are they so expensive?
>
>I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber' in
>the 101 ambi.
>While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
>normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
>rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
>normal plug?
>
>My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
>some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
>bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
>heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.
>

just wait until the heat sensor that tells it the thing is lit
breaks..... the price makes a £40 glow plug seem cheap. ISTR i was
quoted over £100
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Simon Isaacs

"Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote"
George Jean Nathan (1882-1955)

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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:40:52 +0000, Simon Isaacs
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:20:22 +0000, Tom Woods
><[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:
>
>>why are they so expensive?
>>
>>I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber' in
>>the 101 ambi.
>>While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
>>normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
>>rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
>>normal plug?
>>
>>My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
>>some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
>>bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
>>heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.
>>
>
>just wait until the heat sensor that tells it the thing is lit
>breaks..... the price makes a £40 glow plug seem cheap. ISTR i was
>quoted over £100

dont say that it might hear you!

Despite being hard to start and making me dive for cover when it
backfired it still kept the back of the 101 at a toasty 25C with the
back door open!

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:02:15 +0000, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:40:52 +0000, Simon Isaacs
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:20:22 +0000, Tom Woods
>><[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:
>>
>>>why are they so expensive?
>>>
>>>I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber' in
>>>the 101 ambi.
>>>While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
>>>normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
>>>rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
>>>normal plug?
>>>
>>>My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
>>>some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
>>>bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
>>>heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.
>>>
>>
>>just wait until the heat sensor that tells it the thing is lit
>>breaks..... the price makes a £40 glow plug seem cheap. ISTR i was
>>quoted over £100
>
>dont say that it might hear you!
>

I found out the hard way, it was not working, so had to look for
prices......
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Simon Isaacs

"Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote"
George Jean Nathan (1882-1955)

ROT13 me....

Tom Woods wrote:
> why are they so expensive?
>
> I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber'
> in the 101 ambi.
> While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
> normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
> rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
> normal plug?
>
> My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
> some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
> bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
> heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.

Can someone tell me how to turn it on? I am faced with a bewildering array of switches, Lee did great job
of showing me what was what but i'm at a loss with this thingy!!

--
Ta!

Nige

Subaru WRX (54)
Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph)
Honda XL650 Transalp (2005)

Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> Tom Woods wrote:
>> why are they so expensive?
>>
>> I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber'
>> in the 101 ambi.
>> While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
>> normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
>> rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
>> normal plug?
>>
>> My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
>> some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
>> bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
>> heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.
>
> Can someone tell me how to turn it on? I am faced with a bewildering
> array of switches, Lee did great job of showing me what was what but
> i'm at a loss with this thingy!!

Make sure the battery is charged first... the one to the rear of the battery
tray.

Pull the switch out 1 pull and it's just a cold fan

Pull it out to the 2nd pull and it's on heater.... you will hear the fuel
pump ticking (just to the rear of the engine cover) and also the metering
pump which is just inside the eber boxing. It should fire up after a minute
or so where upon the Fan increases speed to fling the heat in the cab.

The thermostat is currently hidden behind the wooden pannel screwed to the
bulkhead on the passenger side... I bunged it in there out of the way until
I got around to relocating it but it's set on full.

DON'T charge the battery with a generator - I killed my last control box
doing that.... frazzeled the transistors, they are about £250 new just for
the control box.


Lee D

Lee_D <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:

> DON'T charge the battery with a generator - I killed my last control
> box doing that.... frazzeled the transistors, they are about £250 new
> just for the control box.
>
>
> Lee D

Oh yeah... when you turn it off the fan continues until the heat exchanger
gets to a safe temp to shut down too.

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 20:13:18 -0000, "Nige"
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>Tom Woods wrote:
>> why are they so expensive?
>>
>> I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber'
>> in the 101 ambi.
>> While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
>> normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
>> rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
>> normal plug?
>>
>> My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
>> some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
>> bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
>> heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.
>
>Can someone tell me how to turn it on? I am faced with a bewildering array of switches, Lee did great job
>of showing me what was what but i'm at a loss with this thingy!!

and bloody awesome when its freezing cold and you want to work on the
vehicle
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Simon Isaacs

"Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote"
George Jean Nathan (1882-1955)

ROT13 me....

On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 20:13:18 -0000, "Nige"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Tom Woods wrote:
>> why are they so expensive?
>>
>> I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber'
>> in the 101 ambi.
>> While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
>> normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
>> rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
>> normal plug?
>>
>> My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
>> some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
>> bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
>> heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.
>
>Can someone tell me how to turn it on? I am faced with a bewildering array of switches, Lee did great job
>of showing me what was what but i'm at a loss with this thingy!!

the switch should be in the centre dash above the heater matrix. 2
position pull switch.
It is near the siren switch!

It should also have a bulb in it so it lights up when it is on! (just
worked out how to change mine!)

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:38:20 +0000, Simon Isaacs
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 20:13:18 -0000, "Nige"
><[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:
>
>>Tom Woods wrote:
>>> why are they so expensive?
>>>
>>> I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber'
>>> in the 101 ambi.
>>> While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
>>> normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
>>> rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
>>> normal plug?
>>>
>>> My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
>>> some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
>>> bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
>>> heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.
>>
>>Can someone tell me how to turn it on? I am faced with a bewildering array of switches, Lee did great job
>>of showing me what was what but i'm at a loss with this thingy!!
>
>and bloody awesome when its freezing cold and you want to work on the
>vehicle

i noticed while reading the wiring diagram trying to work out how to
reconnect my control switch (ive moved it) that you can also set the
eber to fun on full or half heat and there is also provision for a
timer switch on it.
The connctor that these go on is in the loom coming from the control
box but has no wire on it in the 101.

(atleast i think im right with all this but it is kind of hard as the
eber wiring diagram in the troubleshooting guide is for the diesel
model and this actually bears more relation to the 101 cabling than
the petrol one!)

"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>> Tom Woods wrote:
>>> why are they so expensive?
>>>
>>> I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber'
>>> in the 101 ambi.
>>> While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
>>> normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
>>> rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
>>> normal plug?
>>>
>>> My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
>>> some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
>>> bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
>>> heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.
>>
>> Can someone tell me how to turn it on? I am faced with a bewildering
>> array of switches, Lee did great job of showing me what was what but
>> i'm at a loss with this thingy!!
>
> Make sure the battery is charged first... the one to the rear of the
> battery tray.
>
> Pull the switch out 1 pull and it's just a cold fan
>
> Pull it out to the 2nd pull and it's on heater.... you will hear the fuel
> pump ticking (just to the rear of the engine cover) and also the metering
> pump which is just inside the eber boxing. It should fire up after a
> minute or so where upon the Fan increases speed to fling the heat in the
> cab.
>
> The thermostat is currently hidden behind the wooden pannel screwed to the
> bulkhead on the passenger side... I bunged it in there out of the way
> until I got around to relocating it but it's set on full.
>
> DON'T charge the battery with a generator - I killed my last control box
> doing that.... frazzeled the transistors, they are about £250 new just for
> the control box.
>
>
> Lee D
>

Does that battery not charge with road use then? Do i have to charge
manually? I have a charger etc.

Which button/lever is anways, i forgot!!

Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> Does that battery not charge with road use then? Do i have to charge
> manually? I have a charger etc.

Yes

> Which button/lever is anways, i forgot!!

Centre of the dash its the knob on the right nearest the brake reserviour.

Lee D

Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:

> It should also have a bulb in it so it lights up when it is on! (just
> worked out how to change mine!)

Well I'll be....! Never knew it had a bulb in... I feel cheated now ;-)

Lee_D wrote:
> Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>
>> It should also have a bulb in it so it lights up when it is on! (just
>> worked out how to change mine!)
>
> Well I'll be....! Never knew it had a bulb in... I feel cheated now ;-)
>
>
Can hairyscratchers be converted from one fuel to another ? Be cheap to
run on heating paraffin instead of petrol.

Steve

steve Taylor <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
> Can hairyscratchers be converted from one fuel to another ? Be cheap
> to run on heating paraffin instead of petrol.
>
> Steve

Do they really cost that much to run? LPG it ;-)

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:51:23 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
>about:
>
>> It should also have a bulb in it so it lights up when it is on! (just
>> worked out how to change mine!)
>
>Well I'll be....! Never knew it had a bulb in... I feel cheated now ;-)

Neither did I!. i was sitting there thinking 'why is there a bulb in
this wiring diagram', and 'what does this connector on the back of the
switch do' and then i worked it out!

Lee_D wrote:

> Do they really cost that much to run? LPG it ;-)

That'd be too much like hard work. I wanted to just change jets.

There'll be an on-board tank for the diesel enrichment system though ...

Steve

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:34:04 +0000, steve Taylor
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Lee_D wrote:
>
>> Do they really cost that much to run? LPG it ;-)
>
>That'd be too much like hard work. I wanted to just change jets.
>
>There'll be an on-board tank for the diesel enrichment system though ...

does the eber actually use much petrol? i wonder if there are fuel
consumption figures somewhere in the destructions?

Ill be interested to see the LPG enrichent when you get it working!

Tom Woods wrote:
> why are they so expensive?
>
> I have just found that it is £40 for a new spark plug for the eber'
> in the 101 ambi.
> While the plug does have a little bit more metal work round it than a
> normal plug (there is a metal surround for the spark to earth to
> rather than just a 'leg') i cant see why it costs so much more than a
> normal plug?
>
> My eber will just about fire up with the current plug (which has lost
> some of its earth metal), but it takes a few tries and it backfires a
> bit before catching (which scares me!). Is this likely to hurt the
> heater?. Once it is warm it seems fine.

Just used mine for the first time, cracking bit of kit, toasty warm in a few minutes.

All the work that Lee has done has turned Morph into the perfect Motocross vehicle, the bike hangs off
the back, you have somewhere nice & warm to get changed etc. Plenty of room for mates etc. Top do!


--
Ta!

Nige

Subaru WRX (54)
Land Rover 101 GS/Ambi (Morph)

On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:42:27 +0000, Tom Woods
<[email protected]> scribbled the following nonsense:

>On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:34:04 +0000, steve Taylor
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Lee_D wrote:
>>
>>> Do they really cost that much to run? LPG it ;-)
>>
>>That'd be too much like hard work. I wanted to just change jets.
>>
>>There'll be an on-board tank for the diesel enrichment system though ...
>
>does the eber actually use much petrol? i wonder if there are fuel
>consumption figures somewhere in the destructions?
>
>Ill be interested to see the LPG enrichent when you get it working!

have a PDF scanned document for the B4, claims 0.62 l/h, +/- 5%!
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Simon Isaacs

"Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote"
George Jean Nathan (1882-1955)

ROT13 me....