DRL's Are Good... Aren't They???

I hate DRL's cos I have a cataract, and there is enough dazzle in the world without these bl**dy things.

I also think they're another symptom of de-skilling, so a lot less than ideal

(And, ..... before anyone says get it fixed..... the NHS won't do as the risks are too great)

Disco1BFG said:

I hate DRL's cos I have a cataract, and there is enough dazzle in the world without these bl**dy things.

I also think they're another symptom of de-skilling, so a lot less than ideal

(And, ..... before anyone says get it fixed..... the NHS won't do as the risks are too great)

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Sorry fella, I'll keep away from your neck of the woods

Doo said:

Sorry fella, I'll keep away from your neck of the woods

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Nah, don't do that - I agree they've become pretty essential in the modern world - thus, its the modern world which is pants, not DRL's

I think drls are gay, what is it with all the fancy shapes, and then those Audi indicators that light from the inside to the outside, ffs, technology abuse!

freelance said:

I think drls are gay, what is it with all the fancy shapes, and then those Audi indicators that light from the inside to the outside, ffs, technology abuse!

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Gay is it?

Hello gorgeous

The shape I chose was more due to the shape of my light guards, their brightness and their price.... All three made sense.

But I do agree about those silly "moving" indicators

Is that closet too dark for you freelance....you need some lights in there.pmsl

Never mind the closet, I like feeling my way, driving me bumper car in the dark

They're even finding their way onto agric. tractors, ffs, be better if they found a way to make them more reliable..............
Reduced performance, call your dealer..... aaagh! and breathe.

There should be no need for any day running lamps in this country except in extreme conditions. Anyone who cannot see a bloody Range rover approaching in normal daylight conditions from 500 yards away should not be driving.

Hi Folks,

I always remember sitting in on RAC Motorcycle training where my brother was an instructor, "Look Signal Look Manoeuvre". If only we all did this all the time. The truth is, we all have moments of distraction and there are the total idiots that don't care about anyone else. DRL's are a must in my humble opinion.

I have fitted them to my wife's car and have had the Audi Christmas lights before. Black Beauty will also undergo DRL surgery soon as, like our friend mentioned earlier, I need to conserve the life of my Xenon headlights. She already has LED sidelights for styling only but I was astonished that in full daylight she was almost invisible in the rear view mirror when following my VW through town because all you see is the silver grill. On the VW, it has DRL's in the headlight units that can't be disabled but they are the glow-worm type, so I just have the Xenon headlights on all the time, it's a lease car so a no cost option, Tee Hee!

Tricky.

I always have my DRL activated because in certain countries like Kazakhstan it is law and not having them on is just anoter excuse to try and extract dollars from your wallet by over zealous police in their Ladas

[QUOTE="Doo, post: 3955364, member: 130183"
People are mindless morons when it comes to blue lights... I've seen them just stop, causing the emergency vehicle to stop also as there was nowhere safe to get by [/QUOTE]

Google 'Blue Light Aware' from the Guild of Experienced Motorists. It's a very informative video made with the co-operation of the emergency services. Even as an experienced (retired truck/bus/coach) driver myself I learnt a few points.

I fully endorse the comments about 'not being able to see a RR'
I can't understand why we have to be dazzled by so many cars with intensely bright headlamps. The Highway Code (rule 114) states 'You must not use any lights in a way which will dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users' so how come that's exactly what happens?

Modern lights are a pain as they dazzle too easily especially on wet roads

I too have seen a lot of cars with front lights but none at the back

Whats the problem with just turning the round switchy shaped thing when you need your lights on?

I agree that as a biker, a yellow jacket works better than lights cos everyone has lights these days so all lights are ignored

It's obviously a good idea. However it's a bad idea not to light the rears. I've had vehicles with non hid drl's and they're are nearly as bright as dipped. The ****ers that have em and that causes them to not have their dipped on at night ought to be flayed. The ones that look at you puzzled when you flash em to tell em the lights are off ought to be expelled from this earth

norseman said:

[QUOTE="Doo, post: 3955364, member: 130183"
People are mindless morons when it comes to blue lights... I've seen them just stop, causing the emergency vehicle to stop also as there was nowhere safe to get by

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Google 'Blue Light Aware' from the Guild of Experienced Motorists. It's very informative video made with the co-operation of the emergency services. Even as an experienced (retired truck/bus/coach) driver myself I learnt a few points.[/QUOTE]

I have no need to google as I know exactly what it's about.

Blue lights are there to bring your attention to the fact there is an emergency vehicle behind you and you should try to facilitate it's journey in a law abiding fashion. If you are at a red traffic light, there is a very great danger in going through it (just watch any Russian Drivers video n the tube) you will cause a crash, further holding up the emergency responders. However, if you can see & hear the vehicle, he may be in breach of guidelines as as far as I am aware, if they are already in a queue of traffic, they should not have the sirens on in stationary traffic.

What I was talking about is the times I have been on a narrow, windy road where I considered it to be unsafe for me to pull over or them to pull out to pass. I have been at a red light when a fire engine was in the near distance, but by the time he got closer, the lights had changed and I was able to drive forward and into a space to allow him to pass....along with a taxi driver who perhaps had delusions of being a lawyer

Doo said:

Google 'Blue Light Aware' from the Guild of Experienced Motorists. It's very informative video made with the co-operation of the emergency services. Even as an experienced (retired truck/bus/coach) driver myself I learnt a few points.

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I have no need to google as I know exactly what it's about.

Blue lights are there to bring your attention to the fact there is an emergency vehicle behind you and you should try to facilitate it's journey in a law abiding fashion. If you are at a red traffic light, there is a very great danger in going through it (just watch any Russian Drivers video n the tube) you will cause a crash, further holding up the emergency responders. However, if you can see & hear the vehicle, he may be in breach of guidelines as as far as I am aware, if they are already in a queue of traffic, they should not have the sirens on in stationary traffic.

What I was talking about is the times I have been on a narrow, windy road where I considered it to be unsafe for me to pull over or them to pull out to pass. I have been at a red light when a fire engine was in the near distance, but by the time he got closer, the lights had changed and I was able to drive forward and into a space to allow him to pass....along with a taxi driver who perhaps had delusions of being a lawyer [/QUOTE]

This is not correct. The restrictions that apply to 'normal' vehicles do not apply to emergency vehicles. Emergency vehicles can use their horn or sirens at night or when stationary. There was a time it was rarely necessary to use both lights and siren in stationary traffic but as the years have passed with louder/better speakers in vehicles ,they don't hear you coming and lack of observation means they don't see you coming. Therefore sometimes it's the only way to get people to realise that an emergency vehicle needs to get through.

gold rover said:

I have no need to google as I know exactly what it's about.

Blue lights are there to bring your attention to the fact there is an emergency vehicle behind you and you should try to facilitate it's journey in a law abiding fashion. If you are at a red traffic light, there is a very great danger in going through it (just watch any Russian Drivers video n the tube) you will cause a crash, further holding up the emergency responders. However, if you can see & hear the vehicle, he may be in breach of guidelines as as far as I am aware, if they are already in a queue of traffic, they should not have the sirens on in stationary traffic.

What I was talking about is the times I have been on a narrow, windy road where I considered it to be unsafe for me to pull over or them to pull out to pass. I have been at a red light when a fire engine was in the near distance, but by the time he got closer, the lights had changed and I was able to drive forward and into a space to allow him to pass....along with a taxi driver who perhaps had delusions of being a lawyer

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This is not correct. The restrictions that apply to 'normal' vehicles do not apply to emergency vehicles. Emergency vehicles can use their horn or sirens at night or when stationary. There was a time it was rarely necessary to use both lights and siren in stationary traffic but as the years have passed with louder/better speakers in vehicles ,they don't hear you coming and lack of observation means they don't see you coming. Therefore sometimes it's the only way to get people to realise that an emergency vehicle needs to get through.[/QUOTE]

I stand corrected.

However, how many times have you seen and HEARD an emergency vehicle and the driver STILL doesn't respond?

Doo said:

This is not correct. The restrictions that apply to 'normal' vehicles do not apply to emergency vehicles. Emergency vehicles can use their horn or sirens at night or when stationary. There was a time it was rarely necessary to use both lights and siren in stationary traffic but as the years have passed with louder/better speakers in vehicles ,they don't hear you coming and lack of observation means they don't see you coming. Therefore sometimes it's the only way to get people to realise that an emergency vehicle needs to get through.

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I stand corrected.

However, how many times have you seen and HEARD an emergency vehicle and the driver STILL doesn't respond?[/QUOTE]

Sadly, quite a few.

No matter how experienced you are it's still worthwhile watching the BL video. Drivers who (a) cross the stop line at traffic lights on red (b) drive up kerbs onto footpaths (c) exceed any posted speed limit (including those in force during road-works) or in fact contravene any road traffic laws in order to assist the passage of an emergency vehicle are guilty of an offence & the excuse of 'helping an emergency vehicle get past' will not save you from prosecution. The blue-light driver has some degree of immunity from road traffic laws but you, as the good Samaritan, do not.