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t.jonson

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hi,cant seem to find out anywhere do i have to alter the lights on my 04
disco td5 to drive in france keep reading about putting black tape on the
triangles but cant seem to see any on mine?

please help i'm off on friday for the first time

thx
m.


 
t.jonson wrote:
> hi,cant seem to find out anywhere do i have to alter the lights on my 04
> disco td5 to drive in france keep reading about putting black tape on the
> triangles but cant seem to see any on mine?
>
> please help i'm off on friday for the first time
>
> thx
> m.
>
>

Yes, you do have to alter the lights to prevent your dipped beam from
dazzling oncoming traffic. This can be done by masking the dip area of
the lights with black tape but that reduces the amount of light you get.
A much better (but slightly more costly) solution is to buy a set of
beam deflectors that stick on the front of your lights and actually (as
the name implies) deflect the dip beam light across to the other side
.... maintaining the overall amount of available light and illuminating
the side of the road. The deflectors have pretty diagrams on the back of
the packet to show you where to put them and some are re-usable.

For details of compulsary requirements in the various EU countries take
a look at www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/overseas/compulsory_equipment.html
and download the free information sheet.

Happy travelling :)

PS: Don't forget they drive on the wrong side of the road over there!

--
Regards

Steve G
 
so t.jonson was, like...
> hi,cant seem to find out anywhere do i have to alter the lights on my
> 04 disco td5 to drive in france keep reading about putting black tape
> on the triangles but cant seem to see any on mine?
>
> please help i'm off on friday for the first time
>
> thx
> m.

Yes you do. You can do it with a lot of fiddling about with black tape over
part of the light glass (there are markings there to help you - ask if you
need to know which ones). Or you can go to Halford's or somewhere and get
some "beam benders" which cut out the high/left part of dipped beam for
about 5.99 UKP. You can get the same at most ferryports, but you'll get
stung on the price. Clean glass, stick on where told by instructions, peel
off when back in UK.

--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
In news:[email protected],
SteveG <"s.goodfellow"@blueyonder" < <"s.goodfellow"@blueyonder" <"dot> blithered:
> t.jonson wrote:
>> hi,cant seem to find out anywhere do i have to alter the lights on
>> my 04 disco td5 to drive in france keep reading about putting black
>> tape on the triangles but cant seem to see any on mine?
>>
>> please help i'm off on friday for the first time
>>
>> thx
>> m.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, you do have to alter the lights to prevent your dipped beam from
> dazzling oncoming traffic. This can be done by masking the dip area of
> the lights with black tape but that reduces the amount of light you
> get. A much better (but slightly more costly) solution is to buy a
> set of beam deflectors that stick on the front of your lights and
> actually (as the name implies) deflect the dip beam light across to
> the other side ... maintaining the overall amount of available light
> and illuminating the side of the road. The deflectors have pretty
> diagrams on the back of the packet to show you where to put them and
> some are re-usable.
> For details of compulsary requirements in the various EU countries
> take a look at
> www.theaa.com/allaboutcars/overseas/compulsory_equipment.html and
> download the free information sheet.
> Happy travelling :)
>
> PS: Don't forget they drive on the wrong side of the road over there!

Please don't practice before you go!

--
"He who says it cannot be done should not interrupt her doing it."

If at first you don't succeed,
maybe skydiving's not for you!


 
GbH wrote:

>>
>>PS: Don't forget they drive on the wrong side of the road over there!
>
>
> Please don't practice before you go!
>

Jeez, you're no fun :))

--
Regards

Steve G
 

"<snip>

thanks guys it's off to halfords then,looked at the site and printed gear i
needed this is first time abroad in the disco i got this urge to drive it
up the alps,blame the adverts i'm easily led...~(anyone know where there
is a desert round here aswell?)


m.



 
t.jonson wrote:
> "<snip>
>
> thanks guys it's off to halfords then,looked at the site and printed gear i
> needed this is first time abroad in the disco i got this urge to drive it
> up the alps,blame the adverts i'm easily led...~(anyone know where there
> is a desert round here aswell?)
>
>
> m.
>
>
>

Check the regulations - in some countries (France for instance) it's
law to carry spare bulbs and a warning triangle etc. Hi-Vis jackets
are next on the list of things soon to be required in the EU.

--
Regards,
Danny

http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar
Gold blend)
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so Danny was, like...

> Hi-Vis jackets
> are next on the list of things soon to be required in the EU.

Small point to add to this. Where they must be carried (Spain at the
moment, I think), they must be inside the vehicle and accessible, not in the
boot or loadspace.

--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
On or around Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:16 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>so Danny was, like...
>
>> Hi-Vis jackets
>> are next on the list of things soon to be required in the EU.
>
>Small point to add to this. Where they must be carried (Spain at the
>moment, I think), they must be inside the vehicle and accessible, not in the
>boot or loadspace.

a lot of saloons have them inside the boot lid, if they're supplied with
'em, e.g. some mercs.
--
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"Nessun maggior dolore che ricordarsi del tempo felice nella miseria"
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In message <[email protected]>
Austin Shackles <[email protected]> wrote:

> On or around Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:25:16 +0100, "Richard Brookman"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >so Danny was, like...
> >
> >> Hi-Vis jackets
> >> are next on the list of things soon to be required in the EU.
> >
> >Small point to add to this. Where they must be carried (Spain at the
> >moment, I think), they must be inside the vehicle and accessible, not in the
> >boot or loadspace.
>
> a lot of saloons have them inside the boot lid, if they're supplied with
> 'em, e.g. some mercs.

It's getting mad these days - there are so many hi-vis jackets about
now that the person NOT wearing one is the one who stands out....

Richard
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beamendsltd wrote:

> It's getting mad these days - there are so many hi-vis jackets about
> now that the person NOT wearing one is the one who stands out....

Indeed - between the 3 places I do work for I have been issued with 5
hi-vis jackets so far. I guess I might have to put a couple of them on
ebay. :)


--
EMB
 
EMB wrote:

> Indeed - between the 3 places I do work for I have been issued with 5
> hi-vis jackets so far. I guess I might have to put a couple of them on
> ebay. :)
>
>

One of the steel companies I'm working with has different colours for
employees and visitors (yellow and orange). When I was told this and
given one of their nice orange vests I said I already had one but they
insisted theirs is a "special" hue of orange ... I've been wearing my
own one for a couple of weeks and no-one's noticed yet :)

--
Regards

Steve G
 
a couple of points on the subject that i dont think have been covered
1. if you were glasses you must carry a spare pair
2. not that you would, but in france if you are caught exceeding the speed
limmit by 25 miles(or it might be 25kil) per hour you loose your licence on
the spot and if you dont have another driver with you, start walking !!!!

les m


"Danny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> t.jonson wrote:
>> "<snip>
>>
>> thanks guys it's off to halfords then,looked at the site and printed
>> gear i needed this is first time abroad in the disco i got this urge to
>> drive it up the alps,blame the adverts i'm easily led...~(anyone know
>> where there is a desert round here aswell?)
>>
>>
>> m.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Check the regulations - in some countries (France for instance) it's law
> to carry spare bulbs and a warning triangle etc. Hi-Vis jackets are next
> on the list of things soon to be required in the EU.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Danny
>
> http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold
> blend)
> swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
>


 
so Austin Shackles was, like...

>>> Hi-Vis jackets
>>> are next on the list of things soon to be required in the EU.
>>
>> Small point to add to this. Where they must be carried (Spain at the
>> moment, I think), they must be inside the vehicle and accessible,
>> not in the boot or loadspace.
>
> a lot of saloons have them inside the boot lid, if they're supplied
> with 'em, e.g. some mercs.

As far as I understand, that would not be legal in Spain (or wherever).
Makes sense, really. The high-vis jacket is supposed to make you more
visible when you are walking round the car, fixing a puncture or whatever.
If you have to get out and walk round the car to get the jacket, it kind of
negates the benefit.

Having said that, mine travel in the rear door pocket of the Disco.


--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
In message <[email protected]>
"les milner" <[email protected]> wrote:

> a couple of points on the subject that i dont think have been covered
> 1. if you were glasses you must carry a spare pair
> 2. not that you would, but in france if you are caught exceeding the speed
> limmit by 25 miles(or it might be 25kil) per hour you loose your licence on
> the spot and if you dont have another driver with you, start walking !!!!
>
> les m
>
>

In France - less than 25kph over the limit? You'd be lynched......

Richard

> "Danny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > t.jonson wrote:
> >> "<snip>
> >>
> >> thanks guys it's off to halfords then,looked at the site and printed
> >> gear i needed this is first time abroad in the disco i got this urge to
> >> drive it up the alps,blame the adverts i'm easily led...~(anyone know
> >> where there is a desert round here aswell?)
> >>
> >>
> >> m.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Check the regulations - in some countries (France for instance) it's law
> > to carry spare bulbs and a warning triangle etc. Hi-Vis jackets are next
> > on the list of things soon to be required in the EU.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Danny
> >
> > http://www.gaggia-espresso.com (a purely hobby site)
> > http://www.dannyscoffee.com (UK advert for my mobile espresso service)
> > http://www.malabargold.co.uk (UK/European online ordering for Malabar Gold
> > blend)
> > swap Z for above characters in email address to reply
> >
>
>

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beamendsltd wrote:
> In message <[email protected]>
> "les milner" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> a couple of points on the subject that i dont think have been covered
>> 1. if you were glasses you must carry a spare pair
>> 2. not that you would, but in france if you are caught exceeding the
>> speed limmit by 25 miles(or it might be 25kil) per hour you loose
>> your licence on the spot and if you dont have another driver with
>> you, start walking !!!!
>>
>> les m
>>
>>
>
> In France - less than 25kph over the limit? You'd be lynched......
>
> Richard

Don't mention France to me, with the exception of Normandy the folk are rude ignorant & downright
objectionable. I can actually speak passable french too, i can't imagine what it must be like if you only
speak English with the ignorant pigs.

Odd though that the folk in Normandy are superb & friendly.

Very odd indeed!


 
so Nige was, like...
>
> Don't mention France to me, with the exception of Normandy the folk
> are rude ignorant & downright objectionable. I can actually speak
> passable french too, i can't imagine what it must be like if you only
> speak English with the ignorant pigs.

Utter bollocks. I have travelled in France for the last 30 years or so, and
I have always found the French to be helpful and friendly. Always, not
usually or sometimes. (The only exception to this was Paris, but I reckon
most capital cities suffer from this.) My French is passable too, and I
have never had a problem. I can only assume that they must suss you out as
an "ignorant pig" from the start and treat you accordingly.

Perhaps your breakdown in the Toerag put you in a bad mood for the whole
holiday?

--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
> Utter bollocks. I have travelled in France for the last 30 years or so, and
> I have always found the French to be helpful and friendly. Always, not
> usually or sometimes. (The only exception to this was Paris, but I reckon
> most capital cities suffer from this.)

My experience of riding motorcycles in France, and to a lesser extent
driving my 110 Defender echoes these comments exactly.

> I can only assume that they must suss you out as
> an "ignorant pig" from the start and treat you accordingly.

Very likely

 
Richard Brookman wrote:
> so Nige was, like...
>>
>> Don't mention France to me, with the exception of Normandy the folk
>> are rude ignorant & downright objectionable. I can actually speak
>> passable french too, i can't imagine what it must be like if you only
>> speak English with the ignorant pigs.
>
> Utter bollocks. I have travelled in France for the last 30 years or
> so, and I have always found the French to be helpful and friendly. Always, not usually or sometimes.
> (The only exception to this was
> Paris, but I reckon most capital cities suffer from this.) My French
> is passable too, and I have never had a problem. I can only assume
> that they must suss you out as an "ignorant pig" from the start and
> treat you accordingly.
> Perhaps your breakdown in the Toerag put you in a bad mood for the
> whole holiday?


Na, I'm an open minded kind of bloke & have travelled the whole globe learning from all my experiences. I
don't mean *all* French folk are like that, but EVERY one i came across in my snapshot of life in France
made me feel a little more than dissapointed. Sorry, but that is MY experience.

Once we got to Normandy it changed into a dream holiday. Not for any other reason than we where treat so
much nicer. I ALWAYS put major effort in anothers country as any visitor should, but to be called an
'English ****' under the breath of a **** who thought i didnt understand him is not good. ( I only asked
if he had a room for the night ffs) this was the whole attitude i found from start to nearly the finish.

Now, if you want to have any kind of yardstick to measure things like this by, go to Japan & you'll see
what I mean.

Nige
--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"


 
so Nige was, like...
>
> Na, I'm an open minded kind of bloke & have travelled the whole globe
> learning from all my experiences. I don't mean *all* French folk are
> like that, but EVERY one i came across in my snapshot of life in
> France made me feel a little more than dissapointed. Sorry, but that
> is MY experience.

A great opportunity to use my favourite Usenet acronym - YMMV. My
experience is absolutely the opposite, so I guess we speak as we find.

> Once we got to Normandy it changed into a dream holiday. Not for any
> other reason than we where treat so much nicer. I ALWAYS put major
> effort in anothers country as any visitor should, but to be called an
> 'English ****' under the breath of a **** who thought i didnt
> understand him is not good. ( I only asked if he had a room for the
> night ffs) this was the whole attitude i found from start to nearly
> the finish.

If your French is good enough to understand a muttered insult, surely you
could have given him one back? I mean an insult, not a smack, obviously.
>
> Now, if you want to have any kind of yardstick to measure things like
> this by, go to Japan & you'll see what I mean.

I'll pass on this one - back won't allow all the bowing and scraping :)

Glad it turned out OK.

--
Rich
==============================
Disco 300 Tdi auto
S2a 88" SW
Tiggrr (V8 trialler)


 
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