P38A Dreaded EAS fault (Max 35MPH) is this going to empty my wallet ?

Grrrrrr said:

He took it off the car to test it with nothing to contain it!

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The bottom cap will be in next doors garden then.

awkwardbob said:

So I’m making a hilarious meal of this...

decided to test my airbag and line so inflated it -yes, off the vehicle and, predictably, it’s blown the plastic end clean off the rubber.

does anyone have any tips for coaxing the bugger back on ? Or is it time to fork out for (another) new bag ?

thanks

(hangs head in shame)

Bob

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Oh Bob,if you really want to make a simple job awkward have you considered a blindfold and boxing gloves?

Should have found a willing child to stand on the bag while 'testing'

Wouldn't tyre soap be better than fairy, in the long run?

wammers said:

Separated airsprings only happen if the wrong shocks have been fitted. Front shocks fitted on rear for instance.

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They can also happen if you jack up the chassis without jacking the axles at the same time.

Or If you manage to ground out the car bad enough that the axle hangs free.....

..... or if you take the airspring off the car entriely and then ram a compressed air gun into the collet and pull the trigger, just to "test" it.

I did.

Ended up testing my bladder control.

kermit_rr said:

Wouldn't tyre soap be better than fairy, in the long run?

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But Fairy is better on your hands
so the adds say

DarthDude said:

They can also happen if you jack up the chassis without jacking the axles at the same time.

Or If you manage to ground out the car bad enough that the axle hangs free.....

..... or if you take the airspring off the car entriely and then ram a compressed air gun into the collet and pull the trigger, just to "test" it.

I did.

Ended up testing my bladder control.

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The shocks stop the axle from extending to far, thats the whole idea or as wammers said fronts have been fitted to rear as they are longer.
i have had my axles hanging many a time no issues.

brianp38dse said:

The shocks stop the axle from extending to far, thats the whole idea or as wammers said fronts have been fitted to rear as they are longer.
i have had my axles hanging many a time no issues.

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Really?

It's not happened to me yet but I've seen it happen. We were offroading, a few Defenders, a couple Discoveries and a couple P38s... and my buddy- who was running stock airsprings and stock Boge shocks- did manage to seperate his while cresting a bank. One of mine seperated (stock Boge, Airbagman bellows) when my mechanic hit a sleeping policeman probably a little faster than he should have done while test driving mine a while back so I guess my experience is a little different.

Either way it's not end end of the airspring and all (HEH!) that needs to be done is to work the bellows back onto the cap.

DarthDude said:

They can also happen if you jack up the chassis without jacking the axles at the same time.

Or If you manage to ground out the car bad enough that the axle hangs free.....

..... or if you take the airspring off the car entriely and then ram a compressed air gun into the collet and pull the trigger, just to "test" it.

I did.

Ended up testing my bladder control.

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Not unless the shock mount bushes are seriously worn. The shocks control articulation. So if all are sound it is impossible to over articulate an axle. Unless as said earlier front shocks have been fitted to the rear.

wammers said:

...... Unless as said earlier front shocks have been fitted to the rear.

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Sounds like a rookie mistake unlikely to be made by the people involved. Oh well, another one to note, I guess..... and no, I'm not going to go out and try it for myself. I've changed the bellows before and a fair amount of swearing was involved.

DarthDude said:

Sounds like a rookie mistake unlikely to be made by the people involved. Oh well, another one to note, I guess..... and no, I'm not going to go out and try it for myself. I've changed the bellows before and a fair amount of swearing was involved.

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Quite a simple job really refitting bags. Well it is if you know what you are doing.

Had a bag pop it's seal while off-road, only to find the front shock had dropped its bottom thread out and allowed the airbag to quickly pop off and reseal when the car came down on the stops. By the time we'd got back to the tent it had pumped back up... Second hand shock for £17 on site saved the day. Until I broke a rear one in the same manner...... Free shocks forever!!!

Mark Piercy said:

Had a bag pop it's seal while off-road, only to find the front shock had dropped its bottom thread out and allowed the airbag to quickly pop off and reseal when the car came down on the stops. By the time we'd got back to the tent it had pumped back up... Second hand shock for £17 on site saved the day. Until I broke a rear one in the same manner...... Free shocks forever!!!

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I had one go when I hit the mother of all potholes at 50 mph. Was only unseated slightly, enough to leak slowly.

I've also blown the cap off one testing it when I first got the car. We live and learn!

Well it’s on and working !

just the buggered exhaust to fix before I can get her moving. Issue was just that the hose was too short to get a good grip on and drive home properly.

I built a cunning concertina from a carpet inner tube to support the bellows whilst applying force, lube and swear words in equal measure.

may have an iffy F/R height sensor too but let’s deal with one thing at a time ,

thanks for all the help and advice

Bob

Nice one well done

Congratulations!

The swearing and the lube help, don't they?

DarthDude said:

Congratulations!

The swearing and the lube help, don't they?

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I’m not sure which was the more helpful !