Do I need a new garage?

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newtoLR

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I have a land Rover Discovery 2 TD5 and I have taken the thing back to the garage.

I had the rear drivers break replaced after 6000 miles as there was a lot of grinding noise and was informed by the garage that the pad and hub needed replacing. After driving it over the weekend I took it back as there still seemed an issue but a lot quieter. I was informed that a rubber / bush at the rear middle part of the suspension had gone. This has been replaced and today I was informed that both wheel bearings and a ball joint have also gone.

The question is, I know the discovery is old but would I be able to know that the wheel bearings and ball joint have gone? I have used the same garage before and had no issues but this seems a little odd?:(
 
Sounds like you need a land rover specialist. As Thor1950 says, sounds like grasping at straws, trial and error on replacing parts rather than investigating the cause. Throwing parts at these motors is an expensive game.
 
Sometimes a knacked wheel bearing (i.e complete hub on a D2) throws up an ABS sensor fault (3 amigos on the dash, diagnostics should reveal which one has gone). HOWEVER, this isn't always the case - my N/S front wheel had a worrying amount of bearing wobble, but the ABS sensor reading was fine. If you can do so, jack each wheel up and spin it by hand; see if you can hear any grinding noise, then grab the wheel and try and move it side to side and top to bottom to see if there's any play.

Do you know which ball joint they said has gone?
 
Thanks for the replies.

I am meeting with the garage on Monday so that they can show me the work that is required. I will ask then to raise the car so that I can inspect the wheels myself.

I am not sure which ball joint has gone, will know more after the visit.

My main concern is having 4 items that have all "failed" and need to be replaced immediately.

The ABS light has come on a few times, however we live on small roads with a lot of water and mud so I have not given it much thought.

If the car is drivable then I will try some other garages to see what they have to say.
 
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newtoLR said:
Thanks for the replies.

I am meeting with the garage on Monday so that they can show me the work that is required. I will ask then to raise the car so that I can inspect the wheels myself.

I am not sure which ball joint has gone, will know more after the visit.

My main concern is having 4 items that have all "failed" and need to be replaced immediately.

The ABS light has come on a few times, however we live on small roads with a lot of water and mud so I have not given it much thought.

If the car is drivable then I will try some other garages to see what they have to say.
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I don't want to sound harsh but it sounds to me like you don't have sufficient experience to know whether the garage is telling you a load of horse shît or not?


These are complicated vehicles and if you have to use garages to fix everything you'll be broke in a month.

For your sanity and your bank balance you would be well-advised to start to learn how to "diy".

Effective diagnosis of problems is the only way forward. That requires clear and concise explanations of the problem(s).

As to your specific questions:

1. The hubs have an incorporated wheel bearing not a separate like on the older LR's. This means that the wheel bearing can allow sufficient play to trigger the ABS warning light, without sounding like a worn-out bearing. Only cure is a new hub.

2. Ball joint. How can we, at a distance know your ability to diagnose a worn ball-joint????


Land Rover Discoverys are enthusiast vehicles, if you're not prepared to learn and get your hands dirty, you won't have a happy ownership experience.
 
I visited the garage today and they put the car on the ramp to show me the issue. Both front wheels have significant play in all directions and the ball joint on the passenger side shows vertical movement when the wheels take the weight of the car. From what I have read this does indicate an issue.

I appreciate your comment Thebiglad and you are correct about the DIY part. I used to work on my old mini with my dad when he was alive but I have not done anything like that for many years. I have worked on some of the smaller issues and have a copy of the workshop manual. The main issue for me at the moment is the lack of tools and assistance when it hits the fan.
 
Can't suggest a book for diagnostics, but RAVE (LR workshop manual) is very useful in all other respects.

The garage seems to be fine in this case - you'd need to replace both front hubs - around £60 odd quid each via ebay (brand new aftermarket, includes the ABS sensor wire). By ball joint, do you mean the ones on the steering knuckle which allow the hub to pivot? If so there's 2 of them (top & bottom) I was advised to go for genuine Land Rover ones.
 
What's your location, someone may be close to you who could give some pointers.
Always a good start to any friendship is an intro hence why some on here always ask you to go to the intro section first,
 
I have now updated the about me section.

I live in West Wales in Carmarthansire, we moved from Oxfordshire for my work, however that did not really work out as I was then made redundent a few months in to the new role.
 
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