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I'm looking for the full length Disco roof rack it's a lower profile than
the standard and follows the contour of the roof, any ideas - I'm goggled
out ! and no luck!

T.I.A.

Steve


 
That's the one ! it's the highlander one I've seen in a hospital in
Scarborough. I would need the high version for the sunroofs and roof
bars.What's the damage on one of these - I'm sitting down - looking at the
construction it aint going to be cheap!!

If you have this version I would really appreciate a pic.
Cheers,
Steve


"Richard" <richardsemail [email protected]> wrote in message
news:aP%[email protected]...
> You are probably thinking of the one by Safety Devices.
> http://www.safetydevices.co.uk/oldsite/4x4/discovery.html
> We have one on our 95 Discovery, I can email you a pic if you like ?
> Richard
>
> "StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> I'm looking for the full length Disco roof rack it's a lower profile than
>> the standard and follows the contour of the roof, any ideas - I'm goggled
>> out ! and no luck!
>>
>> T.I.A.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>
>


 
have sent you an email, I think !!

Richard


"StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> That's the one ! it's the highlander one I've seen in a hospital in
> Scarborough. I would need the high version for the sunroofs and roof
> bars.What's the damage on one of these - I'm sitting down - looking at the
> construction it aint going to be cheap!!
>
> If you have this version I would really appreciate a pic.
> Cheers,
> Steve
>
>
> "Richard" <richardsemail [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:aP%[email protected]...
>> You are probably thinking of the one by Safety Devices.
>> http://www.safetydevices.co.uk/oldsite/4x4/discovery.html
>> We have one on our 95 Discovery, I can email you a pic if you like ?
>> Richard
>>
>> "StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I'm looking for the full length Disco roof rack it's a lower profile
>>> than the standard and follows the contour of the roof, any ideas - I'm
>>> goggled out ! and no luck!
>>>
>>> T.I.A.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


 
could you send it again - I have just changed my Domain hosting and forgot
to set up the e mail address I use for NG !! Doh done it now though, remove
spamtrap and you should be OK.

Cheers
"Richard" <richardsemail [email protected]> wrote in message
news:9%%[email protected]...
> have sent you an email, I think !!
>
> Richard
>
>
> "StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> That's the one ! it's the highlander one I've seen in a hospital in
>> Scarborough. I would need the high version for the sunroofs and roof
>> bars.What's the damage on one of these - I'm sitting down - looking at
>> the construction it aint going to be cheap!!
>>
>> If you have this version I would really appreciate a pic.
>> Cheers,
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> "Richard" <richardsemail [email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:aP%[email protected]...
>>> You are probably thinking of the one by Safety Devices.
>>> http://www.safetydevices.co.uk/oldsite/4x4/discovery.html
>>> We have one on our 95 Discovery, I can email you a pic if you like ?
>>> Richard
>>>
>>> "StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> I'm looking for the full length Disco roof rack it's a lower profile
>>>> than the standard and follows the contour of the roof, any ideas - I'm
>>>> goggled out ! and no luck!
>>>>
>>>> T.I.A.
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


 
have sent it again


"StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> could you send it again - I have just changed my Domain hosting and forgot
> to set up the e mail address I use for NG !! Doh done it now though,
> remove spamtrap and you should be OK.
>
> Cheers
> "Richard" <richardsemail [email protected]> wrote in message
> news:9%%[email protected]...
>> have sent you an email, I think !!
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> "StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> That's the one ! it's the highlander one I've seen in a hospital in
>>> Scarborough. I would need the high version for the sunroofs and roof
>>> bars.What's the damage on one of these - I'm sitting down - looking at
>>> the construction it aint going to be cheap!!
>>>
>>> If you have this version I would really appreciate a pic.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard" <richardsemail [email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:aP%[email protected]...
>>>> You are probably thinking of the one by Safety Devices.
>>>> http://www.safetydevices.co.uk/oldsite/4x4/discovery.html
>>>> We have one on our 95 Discovery, I can email you a pic if you like ?
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> "StaffBull" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>> I'm looking for the full length Disco roof rack it's a lower profile
>>>>> than the standard and follows the contour of the roof, any ideas - I'm
>>>>> goggled out ! and no luck!
>>>>>
>>>>> T.I.A.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


 
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:20:18 -0000, "StaffBull"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>That's the one ! it's the highlander one I've seen in a hospital in
>Scarborough. I would need the high version for the sunroofs and roof
>bars.What's the damage on one of these - I'm sitting down - looking at the
>construction it aint going to be cheap!!
>
>If you have this version I would really appreciate a pic.
>Cheers,
>Steve
>

You won't see much change from £600.

I had a very simliar Bettaweld one, which now graces Mr Brown's roof.
It was rather cheaper as a secondhand purchase on ebay. I then got
most of my money back when I punted it on.



--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
Tim Hobbs wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:20:18 -0000, "StaffBull"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>That's the one ! it's the highlander one I've seen in a hospital in
>>Scarborough. I would need the high version for the sunroofs and roof
>>bars.What's the damage on one of these - I'm sitting down - looking at the
>>construction it aint going to be cheap!!
>>
>>If you have this version I would really appreciate a pic.
>>Cheers,
>>Steve
>>
>
> You won't see much change from £600.
>
> I had a very simliar Bettaweld one, which now graces Mr Brown's roof.
> It was rather cheaper as a secondhand purchase on ebay. I then got
> most of my money back when I punted it on.
>

And a very nice roofrack it is.

The only major difference between the Bettaweld and the highlander is that
the highlander has its supports aligned with the pillars on the car so that
(in theory) it transmits stresses straight to the structural bits of the
car.

As I say, nice roofrack, and a nice chap sold it to me.

P.
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
 
Is there a site that sells the bettaweld one -and is there a picture of it ?


"Paul S. Brown" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Tim Hobbs wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:20:18 -0000, "StaffBull"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>That's the one ! it's the highlander one I've seen in a hospital in
>>>Scarborough. I would need the high version for the sunroofs and roof
>>>bars.What's the damage on one of these - I'm sitting down - looking at
>>>the
>>>construction it aint going to be cheap!!
>>>
>>>If you have this version I would really appreciate a pic.
>>>Cheers,
>>>Steve
>>>
>>
>> You won't see much change from £600.
>>
>> I had a very simliar Bettaweld one, which now graces Mr Brown's roof.
>> It was rather cheaper as a secondhand purchase on ebay. I then got
>> most of my money back when I punted it on.
>>
>
> And a very nice roofrack it is.
>
> The only major difference between the Bettaweld and the highlander is that
> the highlander has its supports aligned with the pillars on the car so
> that
> (in theory) it transmits stresses straight to the structural bits of the
> car.
>
> As I say, nice roofrack, and a nice chap sold it to me.
>
> P.
> --
> If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
> Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?


 
StaffBull wrote:

> Is there a site that sells the bettaweld one -and is there a picture of it
> ?
>

Bettaweld themselves went out of business a long while ago, however these
racks come up on eBay and places occasionally.

The rack you can see on:

http://www.geekstuff.tv/Gallery/DiscoPix

Is the Bettaweld one I bought from Tim.

Paul
--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
 
Paul S. Brown wrote:
> StaffBull wrote:
>
>> Is there a site that sells the bettaweld one -and is there a picture
>> of it ?
>>
>
> Bettaweld themselves went out of business a long while ago, however
> these racks come up on eBay and places occasionally.
>
> The rack you can see on:
>
> http://www.geekstuff.tv/Gallery/DiscoPix
>
> Is the Bettaweld one I bought from Tim.
>
> Paul

I like the pictures of the wall!!! ;~)

On another note Paul, did you find out what caused the lasck of oil on the S3 you sold me? Was it a
leaking halfshaft oilseal? One of the rear wheels has a bit of oil on it & wondered if thats what it was?

Did you check any of the other levels?

I'm about to start tidying it up a bit.

Ta

Nige


--
Subaru WRX (The Bitch)

Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)

"If you tolerate this then your children will be next"


 
Nige wrote:

> Paul S. Brown wrote:
>> StaffBull wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a site that sells the bettaweld one -and is there a picture
>>> of it ?
>>>
>>
>> Bettaweld themselves went out of business a long while ago, however
>> these racks come up on eBay and places occasionally.
>>
>> The rack you can see on:
>>
>> http://www.geekstuff.tv/Gallery/DiscoPix
>>
>> Is the Bettaweld one I bought from Tim.
>>
>> Paul
>
> I like the pictures of the wall!!! ;~)
>
> On another note Paul, did you find out what caused the lasck of oil on the
> S3 you sold me? Was it a leaking halfshaft oilseal? One of the rear wheels
> has a bit of oil on it & wondered if thats what it was?
>
> Did you check any of the other levels?
>
> I'm about to start tidying it up a bit.
>

Seemed to be the diff case oilseal - there was a lot of seepage around that.
I fixed it as best I could, but don't know how good my fix actually was -
didn't seem to be leaking when I checked it last.

As for other levels - only the engine oil and water. I did redo the grease
on the propshaft UJs and splines though.

The oil on the wheel, if it looks recent may be an issue, however I piddled
a fair amount of oil on them myself when I drew the halfshafts to change
the diff.

I'd check all of the levels if I were you, including the rear diff. I did
notice that the gearbox drain had a bit of seepage - decidedly soggy plug.
I suspect somebody had done a fluid change and not done the bung back up
properly.

P.


--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
 
Paul S. Brown composed the following ...

> http://www.geekstuff.tv/Gallery/DiscoPix

Sorry to butt in and 'hi-jack' the thread ... but ...

Could you do a list of the mods you've done to the underside of the Disco in
those pics?

Seems like it's lifted an inch or more with different springs and shocks,
with a Diff slider (dunno whose but it looks substantial), Jate rings and
Steering guard (dunno whos).

Have you also cut the rear wheel valance to fit the larger tyres? If so
where did you get the dimensions from or template, or did you just cut'npray
? :)

I'm not worried about the winch bumpers, snorkels and stuff, but I do want
to raise mine a tad (31 x 105 BFG AT's at the mo, but want MT's) and yours
looks exactly like the mods I'm considering. Nothing too radical but which
should make it much more off-roadable without being a full-on mudplugger as
we still need to tow a caravan a lot during summer. (Second set of wheels /
tyres we think)

http://groups.msn.com/LosiPaulsPictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=115

http://groups.msn.com/LosiPaulsPictures/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=118

Cheers.

--
Paul ...
http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
(8(!) Homer Rules ... ;)
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


 
Paul S. Brown wrote:
>>
>
> Seemed to be the diff case oilseal - there was a lot of seepage
> around that. I fixed it as best I could, but don't know how good my
> fix actually was - didn't seem to be leaking when I checked it last.

Well, It's not leaking now!

>
> As for other levels - only the engine oil and water. I did redo the
> grease on the propshaft UJs and splines though.
>
> The oil on the wheel, if it looks recent may be an issue, however I
> piddled a fair amount of oil on them myself when I drew the
> halfshafts to change the diff.

It's not recent, so is more than likely what you piddled!


>
> I'd check all of the levels if I were you, including the rear diff. I
> did notice that the gearbox drain had a bit of seepage - decidedly
> soggy plug. I suspect somebody had done a fluid change and not done
> the bung back up properly.
>
> P.

Cheers, will do.

Ta

Nige

--
Subaru WRX (The Bitch)

Series 3 Landrover 88" (Albert)

"If you tolerate this then your children will be next"


 
Paul - xxx wrote:

> Paul S. Brown composed the following ...
>
>> http://www.geekstuff.tv/Gallery/DiscoPix
>
> Sorry to butt in and 'hi-jack' the thread ... but ...
>
> Could you do a list of the mods you've done to the underside of the Disco
> in those pics?
>
> Seems like it's lifted an inch or more with different springs and shocks,
> with a Diff slider (dunno whose but it looks substantial), Jate rings and
> Steering guard (dunno whos).
>
> Have you also cut the rear wheel valance to fit the larger tyres? If so
> where did you get the dimensions from or template, or did you just
> cut'npray
> ? :)
>
> I'm not worried about the winch bumpers, snorkels and stuff, but I do want
> to raise mine a tad (31 x 105 BFG AT's at the mo, but want MT's) and yours
> looks exactly like the mods I'm considering. Nothing too radical but
> which should make it much more off-roadable without being a full-on
> mudplugger as we still need to tow a caravan a lot during summer. (Second
> set of wheels / tyres we think)
>

Take a look at:


http://www.geekstuff.tv/Landies/mylandies/200.html

Basically, the suspension is a Scorpion Racing E2 2" lift kit with De Carbon
gas shocks. The diff slider is actually a QT Services one. The steering
guard is a noname special I got from John Craddock.

With a 2" lift on it you can actually fit 235/70/16s without needing to cut
anything - that's actually what I have on it in that picture, although it's
running on 205/75/16 M&S tyres just now.

There's also a no-name generic diffguard on the front diff - just enough to
protect it from dents.

Hope that helps

P.

--
If Mind over Matter is a Matter of Course
Does it Matter if Nobody Minds?
 

>
>With a 2" lift on it you can actually fit 235/70/16s without needing to cut
>anything - that's actually what I have on it in that picture, although it's
>running on 205/75/16 M&S tyres just now.
>

235/70 is standard fit for most later Discos, so you don't need the 2"
lift for that.

AIUI you need a 2" lift and some trimming to fit 235/85. Whenever I
offroaded my Disco the problem was always following Defenders, as it
just bellied out in their ruts.

I'm always bemused by Discos that have a lifted suspension but
standard tyres. You don't gain any ground clearance, although ramp
over and approach angles are slightly improved I suppose.


--

Tim Hobbs

'58 Series 2 88" aka "Stig"
'77 101FC Ambulance aka "Burrt"
'03 Volvo V70

My Landies? http://www.seriesii.co.uk
Barcoding? http://www.bartec-systems.com
Tony Luckwill web archive at http://www.luckwill.com
 
Paul S. Brown composed the following ...
> Paul - xxx wrote:
>
>> Paul S. Brown composed the following ...
>>
>>> http://www.geekstuff.tv/Gallery/DiscoPix
>>
>> Sorry to butt in and 'hi-jack' the thread ... but ...
>>
>> Could you do a list of the mods you've done to the underside of the Disco
>> in those pics?
>>
>> Seems like it's lifted an inch or more with different springs and shocks,
>> with a Diff slider (dunno whose but it looks substantial), Jate rings and
>> Steering guard (dunno whos).
>>
>> Have you also cut the rear wheel valance to fit the larger tyres? If so
>> where did you get the dimensions from or template, or did you just
>> cut'npray
>> ? :)
>>
>> I'm not worried about the winch bumpers, snorkels and stuff, but I do
>> want to raise mine a tad (31 x 105 BFG AT's at the mo, but want MT's)
>> and yours looks exactly like the mods I'm considering. Nothing too
>> radical but which should make it much more off-roadable without being a
>> full-on mudplugger as we still need to tow a caravan a lot during
>> summer. (Second set of wheels / tyres we think)
>>
>
> Take a look at:
>
>
> http://www.geekstuff.tv/Landies/mylandies/200.html
>
> Basically, the suspension is a Scorpion Racing E2 2" lift kit with De
> Carbon gas shocks. The diff slider is actually a QT Services one. The
> steering guard is a noname special I got from John Craddock.
>
> With a 2" lift on it you can actually fit 235/70/16s without needing to
> cut anything - that's actually what I have on it in that picture,
> although it's running on 205/75/16 M&S tyres just now.
>
> There's also a no-name generic diffguard on the front diff - just enough
> to protect it from dents.
>
> Hope that helps

Cheers. I've seen all the bits, obviously, but it's nice to see and hear of
them actually on a Disco that's used, IYSWIM .. ;)

--
Paul ...
http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
(8(!) Homer Rules ... ;)
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


 
Tim Hobbs composed the following ...
>> With a 2" lift on it you can actually fit 235/70/16s without needing to
>> cut anything - that's actually what I have on it in that picture,
>> although it's running on 205/75/16 M&S tyres just now.
>>
>
> 235/70 is standard fit for most later Discos, so you don't need the 2"
> lift for that.
>
> AIUI you need a 2" lift and some trimming to fit 235/85. Whenever I
> offroaded my Disco the problem was always following Defenders, as it
> just bellied out in their ruts.
>
> I'm always bemused by Discos that have a lifted suspension but
> standard tyres. You don't gain any ground clearance, although ramp
> over and approach angles are slightly improved I suppose.

We have larger tyres already, but I want a more aggressive tread, and as
they already scrape the rear valance I thought a lift kit and judicious
'pruning' might be in order .. ;)

--
Paul ...
http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
(8(!) Homer Rules ... ;)
"A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."


 
Can a 2" lift be added without having to mod other stuff like brake
lines/training arms etc ? (to a Discovery)


"Paul - xxx" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Paul S. Brown composed the following ...
>> Paul - xxx wrote:
>>
>>> Paul S. Brown composed the following ...
>>>
>>>> http://www.geekstuff.tv/Gallery/DiscoPix
>>>
>>> Sorry to butt in and 'hi-jack' the thread ... but ...
>>>
>>> Could you do a list of the mods you've done to the underside of the
>>> Disco
>>> in those pics?
>>>
>>> Seems like it's lifted an inch or more with different springs and
>>> shocks,
>>> with a Diff slider (dunno whose but it looks substantial), Jate rings
>>> and
>>> Steering guard (dunno whos).
>>>
>>> Have you also cut the rear wheel valance to fit the larger tyres? If so
>>> where did you get the dimensions from or template, or did you just
>>> cut'npray
>>> ? :)
>>>
>>> I'm not worried about the winch bumpers, snorkels and stuff, but I do
>>> want to raise mine a tad (31 x 105 BFG AT's at the mo, but want MT's)
>>> and yours looks exactly like the mods I'm considering. Nothing too
>>> radical but which should make it much more off-roadable without being a
>>> full-on mudplugger as we still need to tow a caravan a lot during
>>> summer. (Second set of wheels / tyres we think)
>>>
>>
>> Take a look at:
>>
>>
>> http://www.geekstuff.tv/Landies/mylandies/200.html
>>
>> Basically, the suspension is a Scorpion Racing E2 2" lift kit with De
>> Carbon gas shocks. The diff slider is actually a QT Services one. The
>> steering guard is a noname special I got from John Craddock.
>>
>> With a 2" lift on it you can actually fit 235/70/16s without needing to
>> cut anything - that's actually what I have on it in that picture,
>> although it's running on 205/75/16 M&S tyres just now.
>>
>> There's also a no-name generic diffguard on the front diff - just enough
>> to protect it from dents.
>>
>> Hope that helps
>
> Cheers. I've seen all the bits, obviously, but it's nice to see and hear
> of them actually on a Disco that's used, IYSWIM .. ;)
>
> --
> Paul ...
> http://www.4x4prejudice.org/index.php
> (8(!) Homer Rules ... ;)
> "A tosser is a tosser, no matter what mode of transport they're using."
>


 
StaffBull wrote:

> Can a 2" lift be added without having to mod other stuff like brake
> lines/training arms etc ? (to a Discovery)
>

In theory, yes.

You'll have to mod the shocks otherwise you stand a chance of them going to
maximum extension with the springs still having some travel left.

I changed the flexi lines for slightly longer braided steel ones at fairly
low cost (£48 for the set) just for the peace of mind.

No mods actually needed to the trailing arms/radius arms although some
people go for castor corrected radius arms at the front - I haven't found
this to be too much bother though.

P.

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