Disco Mpi engine fitted to series vehicle

People Hi,

I would be grateful if you could provide your input on this.

I seem to remember a discussion related to fitting a Discovery Mpi 2.000 16V
engine to a series vehicle.

We are currently considering this option locally (in Greece) for a Series 3,
109" which was originaly fitted with the 2.6 6 cylinder engine which is now
fast approaching its death.

A reconditioned 6 cylinder engine is way too expensive, a 2.5 petrol engine
will also need reconditioning, fitting a nice diesel engine is not permited
in Greece (please do not ask why) so the solution of a Rover 2.0 16V engine
is very interesting.

Could someone please shed some light? What will be required? Are the parts
ready?
Will the standard series gearbox and transmission components mate OK with
the Mpi engine or do we need a different bellhousing or an adaptor ring?

Fitting new engine to chassis mounts may be required but this is not a very
difficult problem to overcome. If there is a ready solution or the engine
drops right in place this will be even better though.

Thanks in advance for your kind input
Pantelis

"Pantelis Giamarellos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> People Hi,
>
> I would be grateful if you could provide your input on this.
>
> I seem to remember a discussion related to fitting a Discovery Mpi 2.000
16V
> engine to a series vehicle.
>
> We are currently considering this option locally (in Greece) for a Series
3,
> 109" which was originaly fitted with the 2.6 6 cylinder engine which is
now
> fast approaching its death.
>
> A reconditioned 6 cylinder engine is way too expensive, a 2.5 petrol
engine
> will also need reconditioning, fitting a nice diesel engine is not
permited
> in Greece (please do not ask why) so the solution of a Rover 2.0 16V
engine
> is very interesting.
>
> Could someone please shed some light? What will be required? Are the
parts
> ready?
> Will the standard series gearbox and transmission components mate OK with
> the Mpi engine or do we need a different bellhousing or an adaptor ring?
>
> Fitting new engine to chassis mounts may be required but this is not a
very
> difficult problem to overcome. If there is a ready solution or the engine
> drops right in place this will be even better though.
>
> Thanks in advance for your kind input
> Pantelis
>
>

Why ?? Try to get a near on decent diesel ??

"
> >
> > A reconditioned 6 cylinder engine is way too expensive, a 2.5 petrol
> engine
> > will also need reconditioning, fitting a nice diesel engine is not
> permited
> > in Greece (please do not ask why) so the solution of a Rover 2.0 16V
> engine
> > is very interesting.
> >





>
> Why ?? Try to get a near on decent diesel ??
>
>

Sorry stupid of me did'nt read properly, but why is the diesel not an option
in Greece ??

"Pantelis Giamarellos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> People Hi,
>
> I would be grateful if you could provide your input on this.
>
> I seem to remember a discussion related to fitting a Discovery Mpi 2.000
> 16V
> engine to a series vehicle.
>
> We are currently considering this option locally (in Greece) for a Series
> 3,
> 109" which was originaly fitted with the 2.6 6 cylinder engine which is
> now
> fast approaching its death.
>
> A reconditioned 6 cylinder engine is way too expensive, a 2.5 petrol
> engine
> will also need reconditioning, fitting a nice diesel engine is not
> permited
> in Greece (please do not ask why) so the solution of a Rover 2.0 16V
> engine
> is very interesting.
>
> Could someone please shed some light? What will be required? Are the
> parts
> ready?
> Will the standard series gearbox and transmission components mate OK with
> the Mpi engine or do we need a different bellhousing or an adaptor ring?
>
> Fitting new engine to chassis mounts may be required but this is not a
> very
> difficult problem to overcome. If there is a ready solution or the engine
> drops right in place this will be even better though.
>
> Thanks in advance for your kind input
> Pantelis
>
Dunno mate but the mpi engine is no fireball and prone to self destruct when
punished in a Disco if you are intent on on a transplant the magazine gurus
all rate the phyically similar Rover 800 turbo as the best option with a
power output closer to the V8 I had a look round for Milner Converions who
did all the necessary bits but it looks like the are going japanese . If you
consider a ford <cough> transplant then
http://www.steve-parker.co.uk/site.html
may be able to help .
Derek

On or around Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:13:18 +0300, "Pantelis Giamarellos"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>People Hi,
>
>I would be grateful if you could provide your input on this.
>
>I seem to remember a discussion related to fitting a Discovery Mpi 2.000 16V
>engine to a series vehicle.

I know someone who did one, and reckoned it was good. unfortunately I don't
know where he is now.

The 16V 2 litre is higher revving than a series motor and may be hard on the
transmission. if it's a SWB then I exepct it'd be quite a good machine -
considerably more power than a 2.25 or even a 6.
--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25

Hirtsy Hi,

Unfortunately Greek legislation does NOT allow changing from using petrol to
using diesel on your car.

It was only very recently that they allowed the use of LPG on petrol engined
cars and the use of LPG on diesel powered vehicles is still unclear whether
is allowed or not.

According to the Greek law it is also prohibited to use a diesel powered
private car (Taxis and commercial vehicles are exempted) in the two main
Greek cities (Athens and Thessaloniki) but then again any non Greek citizen
can drive his diesel powered private use car there. So since the E.U.
treaties of free access of ALL E.U. citizens everywhere in the all member
countries over-rule national legislation this Greek law is in fact invalid.

But policemen can still stop a Greek registered diesel powered car, fine the
driver and from there on you can just go to court and win the case with the
Greek State.

--------

So a swap to a diesel engine is not possible.

Take care
Pantelis

"Hirsty's" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "
> > >
> > > A reconditioned 6 cylinder engine is way too expensive, a 2.5 petrol
> > engine
> > > will also need reconditioning, fitting a nice diesel engine is not
> > permited
> > > in Greece (please do not ask why) so the solution of a Rover 2.0 16V
> > engine
> > > is very interesting.
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Why ?? Try to get a near on decent diesel ??
> >
> >
>
> Sorry stupid of me did'nt read properly, but why is the diesel not an
option
> in Greece ??
>
>

Derek thanks.

So does Milner conversions was offering an Mpi/2.0 lt 16V Rover engine
fitting kit for Series vehicles?

A Ford is a viable alternative maybe but it will have to be a petrol engine
anyway.

Thanks for the input
Pantelis

"Derek" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Pantelis Giamarellos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > People Hi,
> >
> > I would be grateful if you could provide your input on this.
> >
> > I seem to remember a discussion related to fitting a Discovery Mpi 2.000
> > 16V
> > engine to a series vehicle.
> >
> > We are currently considering this option locally (in Greece) for a
Series
> > 3,
> > 109" which was originaly fitted with the 2.6 6 cylinder engine which is
> > now
> > fast approaching its death.
> >
> > A reconditioned 6 cylinder engine is way too expensive, a 2.5 petrol
> > engine
> > will also need reconditioning, fitting a nice diesel engine is not
> > permited
> > in Greece (please do not ask why) so the solution of a Rover 2.0 16V
> > engine
> > is very interesting.
> >
> > Could someone please shed some light? What will be required? Are the
> > parts
> > ready?
> > Will the standard series gearbox and transmission components mate OK
with
> > the Mpi engine or do we need a different bellhousing or an adaptor ring?
> >
> > Fitting new engine to chassis mounts may be required but this is not a
> > very
> > difficult problem to overcome. If there is a ready solution or the
engine
> > drops right in place this will be even better though.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your kind input
> > Pantelis
> >
> Dunno mate but the mpi engine is no fireball and prone to self destruct
when
> punished in a Disco if you are intent on on a transplant the magazine
gurus
> all rate the phyically similar Rover 800 turbo as the best option with a
> power output closer to the V8 I had a look round for Milner Converions
who
> did all the necessary bits but it looks like the are going japanese . If
you
> consider a ford <cough> transplant then
> http://www.steve-parker.co.uk/site.html
> may be able to help .
> Derek
>
>

Austin Hi,

I was able to find the site of a fellow LR enthusiast who has fitted a
turbocharged 2.0 engine from an 820 to a series vehicle but it does look
quite complicated and I can not picture a Land Rover Series 3, 109" which
belongs to the University of Creta, Natural History Faculty being fitted
with a boy racer 2.0 Turbocharged engine. Can you?

Take care
Pantelis


"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:13:18 +0300, "Pantelis Giamarellos"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >People Hi,
> >
> >I would be grateful if you could provide your input on this.
> >
> >I seem to remember a discussion related to fitting a Discovery Mpi 2.000
16V
> >engine to a series vehicle.
>
> I know someone who did one, and reckoned it was good. unfortunately I
don't
> know where he is now.
>
> The 16V 2 litre is higher revving than a series motor and may be hard on
the
> transmission. if it's a SWB then I exepct it'd be quite a good machine -
> considerably more power than a 2.25 or even a 6.
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25

"Pantelis Giamarellos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hirtsy Hi,
>
> Unfortunately Greek legislation does NOT allow changing from using petrol
to
> using diesel on your car.
>
> It was only very recently that they allowed the use of LPG on petrol
engined
> cars and the use of LPG on diesel powered vehicles is still unclear
whether
> is allowed or not.
>
> According to the Greek law it is also prohibited to use a diesel powered
> private car (Taxis and commercial vehicles are exempted) in the two main
> Greek cities (Athens and Thessaloniki) but then again any non Greek
citizen
> can drive his diesel powered private use car there. So since the E.U.
> treaties of free access of ALL E.U. citizens everywhere in the all member
> countries over-rule national legislation this Greek law is in fact
invalid.
>
> But policemen can still stop a Greek registered diesel powered car, fine
the
> driver and from there on you can just go to court and win the case with
the
> Greek State.
>
> --------
>
> So a swap to a diesel engine is not possible.
>
> Take care
> Pantelis

Thanks, did make me wonder
John H Good luck with the hunt

On or around Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:16:29 +0300, "Pantelis Giamarellos"
<[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:

>Austin Hi,
>
>I was able to find the site of a fellow LR enthusiast who has fitted a
>turbocharged 2.0 engine from an 820 to a series vehicle but it does look
>quite complicated and I can not picture a Land Rover Series 3, 109" which
>belongs to the University of Creta, Natural History Faculty being fitted
>with a boy racer 2.0 Turbocharged engine. Can you?

The chap I know has a site:

http://www.cosic.org.uk

--
Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
"Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:16:29 +0300, "Pantelis Giamarellos"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
>>Austin Hi,
>>
>>I was able to find the site of a fellow LR enthusiast who has fitted a
>>turbocharged 2.0 engine from an 820 to a series vehicle but it does look
>>quite complicated and I can not picture a Land Rover Series 3, 109" which
>>belongs to the University of Creta, Natural History Faculty being fitted
>>with a boy racer 2.0 Turbocharged engine. Can you?
>
> The chap I know has a site:
>
> http://www.cosic.org.uk
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25

I like that Austin despite his best efforts its using less fuel than a 2.25
Derek

Austin Hi,

yes that is the one I also had in mind.

Take care
Pantelis

P.S. I just remembered that I about two years ago I bought a brand new Mpi
R380 gearbox from a chap in the UK who had used the engine to make a similar
conversion on a Series vehicle. I will try and find his phone number and
ask him about it. IF I manage to speak with him I will let you know.

"Austin Shackles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On or around Sat, 17 Jun 2006 18:16:29 +0300, "Pantelis Giamarellos"
> <[email protected]> enlightened us thusly:
>
> >Austin Hi,
> >
> >I was able to find the site of a fellow LR enthusiast who has fitted a
> >turbocharged 2.0 engine from an 820 to a series vehicle but it does look
> >quite complicated and I can not picture a Land Rover Series 3, 109" which
> >belongs to the University of Creta, Natural History Faculty being fitted
> >with a boy racer 2.0 Turbocharged engine. Can you?
>
> The chap I know has a site:
>
> http://www.cosic.org.uk
>
> --
> Austin Shackles. www.ddol-las.net my opinions are just that
> "Festina Lente" (Hasten slowly) Suetonius (c.70-c.140) Augustus, 25