Disco 2 vs Disco 3 opinions please!!!!

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Justin Bell

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• Sep 15, 2006

• #1

Hi

My company car goes back in January and I am taking the cash option instead.

I was looking at getting a 2004 disco II ES premium TD5 with low miles.
Unfortunately for my bank balance a friend was in a similar situation but
instead bought a disco 3 TDV6 S and now has got me thinking is it worth a
little extra cash and sacrificing some of the toys to get a disco 3?

How do the MPGs compare?

Any thoughts from anyone who has owned both?

Any thoughts from anyone????

Cheers

Justin

 

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[email protected]

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• Sep 15, 2006

• #2

In message <[email protected]>, Justin Bell
<[email protected]> writes
>Hi
>
>My company car goes back in January and I am taking the cash option instead.
>
>I was looking at getting a 2004 disco II ES premium TD5 with low miles.
>Unfortunately for my bank balance a friend was in a similar situation but
>instead bought a disco 3 TDV6 S and now has got me thinking is it worth a
>little extra cash and sacrificing some of the toys to get a disco 3?
>
>How do the MPGs compare?
>
>Any thoughts from anyone who has owned both?
>
>Any thoughts from anyone????
>
>Cheers
>
>Justin
>
>

Now a Disco ll with the TDi engine would be nice but that TD5 is neither
chalk nor cheese. The TDi might be considered a bit agricultural by some
but it's proper engine for a Land Rover. The TD5 belongs in a
hairdressers car. In fact isn't that the issue? Too many hairdressers
getting into Land Rovers and spoiling the integrity of what Land Rovers
should be about. Anyway the Disco lll is so far ahead of the Disco ll
that it's like trying to compare a brain surgeon with a hospital porter.
If it were me I'd either save myself lots of money, rather than being
merely concerned with what reg plate I'm wearing, and buy the very best
late model Disco l available, with a 300 TDi engine or if I had more
money than I knew what to do with I'd go to my dealer and have an
individually speced up Disco lll prepared.

Having said all that I'd still rather have a custom rebuilt 110, it'd
cost less, be a much better long term investment and have more
integrity. My rebuild specs would include;

Galvanised chassis and body frames.
Early 110 doors with recessed handles and manual windows
Series lll 109 safari roof.
Pivlock rear spare wheel mounting
Chipped TDi engine
Sound Proofing kit
Slightly raised and reinforced suspension.
Good quality front mounted bullbar and winch
Airlocker diff locks
snorkel

Not a definitive list, that one would be several times longer.

FWIW
--
John Lubran

 

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Andy

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• Sep 15, 2006

• #3

"Justin Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi
>
> My company car goes back in January and I am taking the cash option
> instead.
>
> I was looking at getting a 2004 disco II ES premium TD5 with low miles.
> Unfortunately for my bank balance a friend was in a similar situation but
> instead bought a disco 3 TDV6 S and now has got me thinking is it worth a
> little extra cash and sacrificing some of the toys to get a disco 3?
>
> How do the MPGs compare?
>
> Any thoughts from anyone who has owned both?
>
> Any thoughts from anyone????
>
> Cheers
>
> Justin
>


I have owned both and for me it's easy, for on-road family transport, exec
cruiser etc the Disco 3 everytime, it is very good off-road too but is so
wide that it is easily damaged ( I know from experience). For major off-road
work the D2 is better IMO.

D3 engine is vastly superior the mpg is around 28 for a manual and 25 for an
Auto which is better then the D2 by around 4-5mpg for each gearbox.

D3 ride and handling much better with independent air-suspension but there
are plenty of gremlins affecting the D3 electronics, mostly affected early
cars so the new ones should be OK. So if you want to spend £20k plus go for
the D3 otherwise go for an earlier D2 or even a D1, it is not worth shelling
out 18-19k for a late D2 IMO.

Andy

 

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Dave Liquorice

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• Sep 15, 2006

• #4

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:56:22 +0100, Justin Bell wrote:

> is it worth a little extra cash and sacrificing some of the toys to get
> a disco 3?

Only you can answer that. What toys do you have to sacrifice, I'd be
reluctant to give up the climate and cruise control of my DII now...

> How do the MPGs compare?
>
> Any thoughts from anyone who has owned both?

I had a DIII TDV6 7 seat for a couple of days as a loaner whilst mine was
being serviced. Drives like car not a Land Rover, drives rather too well
I suspect. It would be rather too easy to push it past the edge. It's
still a heavy vehicle and heavy things do not like going round corners.

Goes well, I gave up at not far short of 90 on the motorway and it was
still pulling. Wasn't overly keen on the electronic handbrake but I guess
you'd get used to it. The lack of a deep ****, manual, brake of some sort
worries me as well.

MPG according, to its computer, from the couple of hundred miles I did
was 26, worse that my TD5 DII. It might not have learnt my driving style
in that time though.

The DIII's 6th and 7th seats are full size and fold flat into the floor.
In a DII they take up load space (particulary with rear aircon) and are
really only suitable for children or adults for a short journey.

The DIII rear door is a flap down/up like a Range Rover, nice covered
seating area but makes it quite a stretch when loading and I'm not short
at 5' 11" with long arms.

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Martin Coombs

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• Sep 15, 2006

• #5

"Justin Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi
>
> My company car goes back in January and I am taking the cash option
> instead.
>
> I was looking at getting a 2004 disco II ES premium TD5 with low miles.
> Unfortunately for my bank balance a friend was in a similar situation but
> instead bought a disco 3 TDV6 S and now has got me thinking is it worth a
> little extra cash and sacrificing some of the toys to get a disco 3?
>
> How do the MPGs compare?
>
> Any thoughts from anyone who has owned both?
>
> Any thoughts from anyone????
>
> Cheers
>
> Justin
>

Having had both, for me, the D3 wins everytime. Ride, engine and
accomodation are in a different league. Who needs too many toys, use them
once then you are bored with them.
Having said that, a friend of mine has the HSE model and you can't stop him
playing with it (the car that is).
Not tried the D3 offroad yet, that's next month.
If money is an issue, don't rule out the new Freelander due out in December.

Martin

 

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Dave Liquorice

Guest

• Sep 15, 2006

• #6

On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:08:34 +0100, Andy wrote:

> D3 engine is vastly superior the mpg is around 28 for a manual and 25
> for an Auto which is better then the D2 by around 4-5mpg for each
> gearbox.

Hum, see my other postings about my figures for a DII TD5 Manual. If I
cane it round the lanes it'll drop to 25 but my overall average is
28.somthing (25k+ miles) with the last 6k being a tad over 30. So I'll
disagree with the above statement. B-)

Otherwise I agree the DIII is a very comfortable, practical, luxury,
motor that just happens to be very able off road. Personally I didn't
really like the DIII and was rather glad to get my DII back.

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KSA

Guest

• Sep 15, 2006

• #7

Hi it feels like I have been searching the entire world for the
proverbial needle in a haystack

I have an early Testbook model 27070B, its hard Disk died I replaced
that and reinstalled Windows 95 and the Touch screen software but now I
am stuck I don't have an RDS CD to reinstall RDS etc

I know the later T4 onwards RDS CDs are not suitable

I am desperate to track down any early RDS CD Omitec tell me RDS 3.x or
lower should do it but they don't have one to send me themselves

Has anyone got an Early RDS CD, anything is worth a try or has anyone
got a Disk image from any pre T4 Testbook?

I would really appreciate any help you can give

regards
Keith

 

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Richard Brookman

Guest

• Sep 15, 2006

• #8

Justin Bell wrote:

|| Any thoughts from anyone????

I own a D2 and I've never even sat in a D3, so the following comment is
virtually worthless, but I'd always choose a vehicle that looked like a Land
Rover rather than a bread-van. I just cannot get along with the brutal
slabby outline.

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Rich
==============================

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Patrick Manuel

Guest

• Sep 15, 2006

• #9

Hi Justin,

I have owned both Td5 and TDV6 Discos (both manual transmissions). Average
MPG from the Td5 was 28.1 over 90K miles, average so far from the TDV6 has
been 27.1 over 20K miles. These are accurate figures calculated on actual
fuel consumption, not what the trip computer says (which in the case of the
TDV6 is only slightly optimistic).

To drive, they are very different. The TDV6 is far more refined and far
more 'car' like. As far as off-road abilities are concerned, I did nearly
get the TDV6 stuck down a green lane that the Td5 would have walked but that
may have just been me not getting the right settings on the computer.

The TDV6 has bags of load space, especially with the very cunning rear seats
folded down. On the negative side, I like my spare wheels rear mounted!
There is quite a difference in price as well.

Suggest you drive both.

Patrick


"Justin Bell" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi
>
> My company car goes back in January and I am taking the cash option
instead.
>
> I was looking at getting a 2004 disco II ES premium TD5 with low miles.
> Unfortunately for my bank balance a friend was in a similar situation but
> instead bought a disco 3 TDV6 S and now has got me thinking is it worth a
> little extra cash and sacrificing some of the toys to get a disco 3?
>
> How do the MPGs compare?
>
> Any thoughts from anyone who has owned both?
>
> Any thoughts from anyone????
>
> Cheers
>
> Justin
>
>

 

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Srtgray

Guest

• Sep 15, 2006

• #10

Richard Brookman wrote:
> Justin Bell wrote:
>
> || Any thoughts from anyone????
>
> I own a D2 and I've never even sat in a D3, so the following comment is
> virtually worthless, but I'd always choose a vehicle that looked like a Land
> Rover rather than a bread-van. I just cannot get along with the brutal
> slabby outline.
>
I got the impression that they were trying to move the Disco towards
Defender styling!

Stuart

 

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Patrick Manuel

Guest

• Sep 15, 2006

• #11

Personally I think the D3 is b****y ugly and looks more like a custom Ford
Transit but there you are - It is really nice to drive though!

Patrick

"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in
message news:[email protected]...
> Justin Bell wrote:
>
> || Any thoughts from anyone????
>
> I own a D2 and I've never even sat in a D3, so the following comment is
> virtually worthless, but I'd always choose a vehicle that looked like a
Land
> Rover rather than a bread-van. I just cannot get along with the brutal
> slabby outline.
>
> --
> Rich
> ==============================
>
> Take out the obvious to email me.
>
>

 

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Richard Brookman

Guest

• Sep 15, 2006

• #12

Srtgray wrote:

|| Richard Brookman wrote:
||| Justin Bell wrote:
|||
||||| Any thoughts from anyone????
|||
||| I own a D2 and I've never even sat in a D3, so the following
||| comment is virtually worthless, but I'd always choose a vehicle
||| that looked like a Land Rover rather than a bread-van. I just
||| cannot get along with the brutal slabby outline.
|||
|| I got the impression that they were trying to move the Disco towards
|| Defender styling!
||
|| Stuart

This is where I get all miserable about "styling". If it's not a Defender,
don't try to make it look like one (if that's what they are doing). Make it
look like Discovery. The Defender look is all about evolution and
"heritage" - any attempt to copy heritage just looks sad and tacky, like
Disneyland's version of a mediaeval castle, with "battlements" and
"portcullises", when everyone knows it's plywood and plastic.

--
Rich
==============================

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Lee_D

Guest

• Sep 16, 2006

• #13

Martin Coombs <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> Having had both, for me, the D3 wins everytime. Ride, engine and
> accomodation are in a different league. Who needs too many toys, use
> them once then you are bored with them.
> Having said that, a friend of mine has the HSE model and you can't
> stop him playing with it (the car that is).
> Not tried the D3 offroad yet, that's next month.
> If money is an issue, don't rule out the new Freelander due out in
> December.
> Martin

Renal Dr fee - Freelandrover Anagram.... something to do with having to sell
a Kidney to keep the thing going.

Icy rev sod , Drive cosy - Discovery


Lee D

 

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Dougal

Guest

• Sep 16, 2006

• #14

Lee_D wrote:

> Martin Coombs <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>
>>Having had both, for me, the D3 wins everytime. Ride, engine and
>>accomodation are in a different league. Who needs too many toys, use
>>them once then you are bored with them.
>>Having said that, a friend of mine has the HSE model and you can't
>>stop him playing with it (the car that is).
>>Not tried the D3 offroad yet, that's next month.
>>If money is an issue, don't rule out the new Freelander due out in
>>December.
>>Martin
>
>
> Renal Dr fee - Freelandrover Anagram.... something to do with having to sell
> a Kidney to keep the thing going.
>
> Icy rev sod , Drive cosy - Discovery
>
>
> Lee D

You've got too much time on your hands!

 

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Onetime. via CarKB.com

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• Sep 18, 2006

• #15

Buy a 4.6 p38 hse range rover with lpg 70litres for £30 250+ full tank of gas
mpg 35+. V8 Engine nuff said.
cost around 7-10k for a decent one with service history save some cash for
repairs it land rover you will get with any even new discos more with the td5.
any just my opinion. Had a 300tdi disco es great but not a patch on the range
rover i just brought.
cheers

Justin Bell wrote:
>Hi
>
>My company car goes back in January and I am taking the cash option instead.
>
>I was looking at getting a 2004 disco II ES premium TD5 with low miles.
>Unfortunately for my bank balance a friend was in a similar situation but
>instead bought a disco 3 TDV6 S and now has got me thinking is it worth a
>little extra cash and sacrificing some of the toys to get a disco 3?
>
>How do the MPGs compare?
>
>Any thoughts from anyone who has owned both?
>
>Any thoughts from anyone????
>
>Cheers
>
>Justin

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richardkennedy40 via CarKB.com

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• Sep 18, 2006

• #16

The mans right, first saw the rear of one and thought transit van 20k+ for
tranny van no thanks. Brought my first disco 300tdi es 5 years ago before all
the take overs etc great car. When my 3 year old saw it the first thing she
said is "Its got a wheel on the back". Now got a range rover 4.6 hse no wheel
but i'm driving a tank with chesterfield sofas in it!!

Patrick Manuel wrote:
>Personally I think the D3 is b****y ugly and looks more like a custom Ford
>Transit but there you are - It is really nice to drive though!
>
>Patrick
>
>> || Any thoughts from anyone????
>>
>> I own a D2 and I've never even sat in a D3, so the following comment is
>> virtually worthless, but I'd always choose a vehicle that looked like a Land
>> Rover rather than a bread-van. I just cannot get along with the brutal
>> slabby outline.

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