Disco 2 Air Suspension question

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Nikki

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Just got back from Asda and the compressor that runs the air suspension ran
on for at least 10 minutes after the engine was stopped. As it showed no
sign of stopping, Bruce has disconnecetd the battery. He's taken the cover
off and I have posted a coup[e of pics on webshots. user name nikkiclu and
they are under Disco II album.


 
in article C0AC1C74.7BDC%[email protected], Nikki at
[email protected] wrote on 7/6/06 6:03 am:

> Just got back from Asda and the compressor that runs the air suspension ran
> on for at least 10 minutes after the engine was stopped. As it showed no
> sign of stopping, Bruce has disconnecetd the battery. He's taken the cover
> off and I have posted a coup[e of pics on webshots. user name nikkiclu and
> they are under Disco II album.
>
>
Has part broken off and is it repairable or new compressor?

 
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 05:03:55 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Just got back from Asda and the compressor that runs the air suspension ran
>on for at least 10 minutes after the engine was stopped. As it showed no
>sign of stopping, Bruce has disconnecetd the battery. He's taken the cover
>off and I have posted a coup[e of pics on webshots. user name nikkiclu and
>they are under Disco II album.
>
Sorry Nikki.

Was looking at one of those compressors earlier i the week but can't
make out whatthe broken bit is. Any chance of getting the compressor
off so we can have a better look?

David
 
in article [email protected], rads at
[email protected] wrote on 7/6/06 8:19
am:

> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 05:03:55 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Just got back from Asda and the compressor that runs the air suspension ran
>> on for at least 10 minutes after the engine was stopped. As it showed no
>> sign of stopping, Bruce has disconnecetd the battery. He's taken the cover
>> off and I have posted a coup[e of pics on webshots. user name nikkiclu and
>> they are under Disco II album.
>>
> Sorry Nikki.
>
> Was looking at one of those compressors earlier i the week but can't
> make out whatthe broken bit is. Any chance of getting the compressor
> off so we can have a better look?
>
> David

Bruce going to have a look at getting it off in a minute.
--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair

 
in article [email protected], rads at
[email protected] wrote on 7/6/06 8:19
am:

> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 05:03:55 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Just got back from Asda and the compressor that runs the air suspension ran
>> on for at least 10 minutes after the engine was stopped. As it showed no
>> sign of stopping, Bruce has disconnecetd the battery. He's taken the cover
>> off and I have posted a coup[e of pics on webshots. user name nikkiclu and
>> they are under Disco II album.
>>
> Sorry Nikki.
>
> Was looking at one of those compressors earlier i the week but can't
> make out whatthe broken bit is. Any chance of getting the compressor
> off so we can have a better look?
>
> David


Bruce says the bit comes from the top of the air supply unit and thinks
there is a bit of pipe no longer attached to it/broken off in top.

Not having a manual he wants to know the following
i) is it easy to get off?
ii) put back on without taking to garage?
iii) replacement "air supply unit" - how much or can it be
repaired/serviced?

Its been noisy for a couple of weeks, we think, could possibly be longer.
We usually have radio or cd on in car but since I heard it the other day,
only been listenig for it for a short time and its only ever been an
occassional noise in short bursts and sounds like Bruces compressor in the
garden when its recharging itself.
--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair
We have no fault lights on dashboard, but he is going to connect battery up
and get it round the back of the house before he does anything else to it
befoe he hets cleared up by a bus, so will know for definate in a minute.

 
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:53:04 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
wrote:

>Bruce says the bit comes from the top of the air supply unit and thinks
>there is a bit of pipe no longer attached to it/broken off in top.
>
>Not having a manual he wants to know the following
>i) is it easy to get off?
>ii) put back on without taking to garage?
>iii) replacement "air supply unit" - how much or can it be
>repaired/serviced?

'Fraid all my info is second hand.

i) Yes
ii) Yes, though would suggest chocking the body to prevent it sagging
if you disconnect the lines to the air springs. Having that, my mates
sagged to the bump stops, did not generate any fault codes, and rose
majestically back up once fixed.
iii) Not sure. The larger diameter air pipes are air inlet and
exhaust, not the higher pressure (small) lines which feed the air
springs. If either the inlet or the exhaust has come loose, not sure
why that should let prevent the compressor from reaching pressure and
stopping.

David
 
in article [email protected], rads at
[email protected] wrote on 7/6/06 12:18
pm:

> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:53:04 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Bruce says the bit comes from the top of the air supply unit and thinks
>> there is a bit of pipe no longer attached to it/broken off in top.
>>
>> Not having a manual he wants to know the following
>> i) is it easy to get off?
>> ii) put back on without taking to garage?
>> iii) replacement "air supply unit" - how much or can it be
>> repaired/serviced?
>
> 'Fraid all my info is second hand.
>
> i) Yes
> ii) Yes, though would suggest chocking the body to prevent it sagging
> if you disconnect the lines to the air springs. Having that, my mates
> sagged to the bump stops, did not generate any fault codes, and rose
> majestically back up once fixed.
> iii) Not sure. The larger diameter air pipes are air inlet and
> exhaust, not the higher pressure (small) lines which feed the air
> springs. If either the inlet or the exhaust has come loose, not sure
> why that should let prevent the compressor from reaching pressure and
> stopping.
>
> David

just driven round the block so I can reverse into drive, which I've just
done. We've raised the back end and lowered it again and compressor rans
after it had lifted to max and again when lowered, with no sign of stopping,
so have disconneceted battery again. Shall pass on info and take some pics
as soon as I can once compressor is off. Got to go and look at my sons new
school this afternoon, so shall be leaving Bruce to get mad with the car by
himself.


--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair

 
in article [email protected], rads at
[email protected] wrote on 7/6/06 12:18
pm:

> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:53:04 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Bruce says the bit comes from the top of the air supply unit and thinks
>> there is a bit of pipe no longer attached to it/broken off in top.
>>
>> Not having a manual he wants to know the following
>> i) is it easy to get off?
>> ii) put back on without taking to garage?
>> iii) replacement "air supply unit" - how much or can it be
>> repaired/serviced?
>
> 'Fraid all my info is second hand.
>
> i) Yes
> ii) Yes, though would suggest chocking the body to prevent it sagging
> if you disconnect the lines to the air springs. Having that, my mates
> sagged to the bump stops, did not generate any fault codes, and rose
> majestically back up once fixed.
> iii) Not sure. The larger diameter air pipes are air inlet and
> exhaust, not the higher pressure (small) lines which feed the air
> springs. If either the inlet or the exhaust has come loose, not sure
> why that should let prevent the compressor from reaching pressure and
> stopping.
>
> David


have just added some pics of partly removed compressor.
on webshots
user name nikkiclu and
they are under Disco II album.


 
On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:09:56 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
wrote:

>have just added some pics of partly removed compressor.
>on webshots
>user name nikkiclu and
>they are under Disco II album.
>
Had a look.

I am pretty sure that is the inlet pipe to the compressor.

Bruce's suspicion is correct and it should be joined to the
compressor.

However, I'm not convinced that is the reason the compressor is not
stopping. With that union broken, the compressor will be sucking
relatively dirty air from under the car (and might explain the extra
noise you had noticed) but the compressor should still work.

If it is not switching off then presumably some ecu somewhere thinks
the thing is not at the right ride height. The fact it did lift itself
up suggests the compressor is functioning.

David
 
in article [email protected], rads at
[email protected] wrote on 7/6/06 7:09
pm:

> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:09:56 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> have just added some pics of partly removed compressor.
>> on webshots
>> user name nikkiclu and
>> they are under Disco II album.
>>
> Had a look.
>
> I am pretty sure that is the inlet pipe to the compressor.
>
> Bruce's suspicion is correct and it should be joined to the
> compressor.
>
> However, I'm not convinced that is the reason the compressor is not
> stopping. With that union broken, the compressor will be sucking
> relatively dirty air from under the car (and might explain the extra
> noise you had noticed) but the compressor should still work.
>
> If it is not switching off then presumably some ecu somewhere thinks
> the thing is not at the right ride height. The fact it did lift itself
> up suggests the compressor is functioning.
>
> David


Just had conversation with Bruce and he has come to the same conclusion and
looking at photos, thinks that the union has possibly got very hot at some
point and melted. The car is not lop sided or resting on bump stops either,
but it definately wont risk towing the caravan to Eastnor this weekend!

Have booked it in to be looked at Friday afternoon and in the mean while the
other Disco is booked in for MOT at 11am.

Thanks very much for your help. Its muchly appreciated!


--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair

 
in article C0AD2168.7C1C%[email protected], Nikki at
[email protected] wrote on 8/6/06 12:43 am:

> in article [email protected], rads at
> [email protected] wrote on 7/6/06 7:09
> pm:
>
>> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:09:56 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> have just added some pics of partly removed compressor.
>>> on webshots
>>> user name nikkiclu and
>>> they are under Disco II album.
>>>
>> Had a look.
>>
>> I am pretty sure that is the inlet pipe to the compressor.
>>
>> Bruce's suspicion is correct and it should be joined to the
>> compressor.
>>
>> However, I'm not convinced that is the reason the compressor is not
>> stopping. With that union broken, the compressor will be sucking
>> relatively dirty air from under the car (and might explain the extra
>> noise you had noticed) but the compressor should still work.
>>
>> If it is not switching off then presumably some ecu somewhere thinks
>> the thing is not at the right ride height. The fact it did lift itself
>> up suggests the compressor is functioning.
>>
>> David
>
>
> Just had conversation with Bruce and he has come to the same conclusion and
> looking at photos, thinks that the union has possibly got very hot at some
> point and melted. The car is not lop sided or resting on bump stops either,
> but it definately wont risk towing the caravan to Eastnor this weekend!
>
> Have booked it in to be looked at Friday afternoon and in the mean while the
> other Disco is booked in for MOT at 11am.
>
> Thanks very much for your help. Its muchly appreciated!
>

Anyone know if it can be repaired or is it a replacement compressor?
--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair


 
In message <C0B584C8.7D5F%[email protected]>
Nikki <[email protected]> wrote:

> in article C0AD2168.7C1C%[email protected], Nikki at
> [email protected] wrote on 8/6/06 12:43 am:
>
> > in article [email protected], rads at
> > [email protected] wrote on 7/6/06 7:09
> > pm:
> >
> >> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:09:56 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> have just added some pics of partly removed compressor.
> >>> on webshots
> >>> user name nikkiclu and
> >>> they are under Disco II album.
> >>>
> >> Had a look.
> >>
> >> I am pretty sure that is the inlet pipe to the compressor.
> >>
> >> Bruce's suspicion is correct and it should be joined to the
> >> compressor.
> >>
> >> However, I'm not convinced that is the reason the compressor is not
> >> stopping. With that union broken, the compressor will be sucking
> >> relatively dirty air from under the car (and might explain the extra
> >> noise you had noticed) but the compressor should still work.
> >>
> >> If it is not switching off then presumably some ecu somewhere thinks
> >> the thing is not at the right ride height. The fact it did lift itself
> >> up suggests the compressor is functioning.
> >>
> >> David
> >
> >
> > Just had conversation with Bruce and he has come to the same conclusion and
> > looking at photos, thinks that the union has possibly got very hot at some
> > point and melted. The car is not lop sided or resting on bump stops either,
> > but it definately wont risk towing the caravan to Eastnor this weekend!
> >
> > Have booked it in to be looked at Friday afternoon and in the mean while the
> > other Disco is booked in for MOT at 11am.
> >
> > Thanks very much for your help. Its muchly appreciated!
> >
>
> Anyone know if it can be repaired or is it a replacement compressor?

You can get the following spares (I've only just looked at this
thread so I'll just list everything - these bit are not on the site
...... yet)

Pressure Transducer
Filter & plug
Pressure control valve (2 different ones)
Seals (at front)

other wise it's the whole thing

Richard

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in article 8246cd364e%[email protected], beamendsltd at
[email protected] wrote on 14/6/06 11:11 am:

> In message <C0B584C8.7D5F%[email protected]>
> Nikki <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> in article C0AD2168.7C1C%[email protected], Nikki at
>> [email protected] wrote on 8/6/06 12:43 am:
>>
>>> in article [email protected], rads at
>>> [email protected] wrote on 7/6/06 7:09
>>> pm:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 12:09:56 GMT, Nikki <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> have just added some pics of partly removed compressor.
>>>>> on webshots
>>>>> user name nikkiclu and
>>>>> they are under Disco II album.
>>>>>
>>>> Had a look.
>>>>
>>>> I am pretty sure that is the inlet pipe to the compressor.
>>>>
>>>> Bruce's suspicion is correct and it should be joined to the
>>>> compressor.
>>>>
>>>> However, I'm not convinced that is the reason the compressor is not
>>>> stopping. With that union broken, the compressor will be sucking
>>>> relatively dirty air from under the car (and might explain the extra
>>>> noise you had noticed) but the compressor should still work.
>>>>
>>>> If it is not switching off then presumably some ecu somewhere thinks
>>>> the thing is not at the right ride height. The fact it did lift itself
>>>> up suggests the compressor is functioning.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>> Just had conversation with Bruce and he has come to the same conclusion and
>>> looking at photos, thinks that the union has possibly got very hot at some
>>> point and melted. The car is not lop sided or resting on bump stops either,
>>> but it definately wont risk towing the caravan to Eastnor this weekend!
>>>
>>> Have booked it in to be looked at Friday afternoon and in the mean while the
>>> other Disco is booked in for MOT at 11am.
>>>
>>> Thanks very much for your help. Its muchly appreciated!
>>>
>>
>> Anyone know if it can be repaired or is it a replacement compressor?
>
> You can get the following spares (I've only just looked at this
> thread so I'll just list everything - these bit are not on the site
> ..... yet)
>
> Pressure Transducer
> Filter & plug
> Pressure control valve (2 different ones)
> Seals (at front)
>
> other wise it's the whole thing
>
> Richard

Have e-mailed you direct.
--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair

 
Nikki wrote:

>
> Have e-mailed you direct.

Hi Nikki,

Can I have the corpse of the pump if its knackered, out of technical
interest please ?

Steve
 
in article [email protected], Steve Taylor at
[email protected] wrote on 14/6/06 12:16 pm:

> Nikki wrote:
>
>>
>> Have e-mailed you direct.
>
> Hi Nikki,
>
> Can I have the corpse of the pump if its knackered, out of technical
> interest please ?
>
> Steve

I should think so - will check with Bruce first though, as from past
experience when something has really ****ed him off he has been known to
place certain items in a vice and crush or use a grinder and convert to
several smaller bits and if flamable a ritual burning on the bonfire is
probably his favourite.

Where do you live?


--
Nikki

2000 Discovery V8
1990 Discovery V8
1979 Lightweight 2.25 petrol
1976 Series lll 2.25 petrol - in need of repair

 
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