Disabling Traction control on P38???

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Hi all! just wondered if someone could help?

I want to disable the traction control on my P38 4.6 (1998) whilst all the lovely snow is out :D

DOes anyone know how to do this? is it a case of removing a fuse/relay?

any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks!
Mike
 
boXXer said:
Hi all! just wondered if someone could help?

I want to disable the traction control on my P38 4.6 (1998) whilst all the lovely snow is out :D

DOes anyone know how to do this? is it a case of removing a fuse/relay?

any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks!
Mike
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There is, but in doing so it also disables the ABS, so don't even think about it.
 
P38 Traction Control is not like other manufacturers TC, It doesn't cut the power. It actively applies the brake to the spinning wheel to transfer torque to the other wheel with grip.

New TC's or Stability controls (BMW, Toyota, in fact almost everybody else - probably the newer LR's too!) return traction by cutting power - no fun! Yes you want to turn them off to have fun. My wifes Prius is particularily intusive :eek:, also the Ssannyong rextons are brutal.:doh:

But bless the P38 its different:p. Therefore it doesn't detract from the fun one little bit, merely makes recovering a slide better and the chances of getting stuck lower = more fun:D So don't bother trying to find a way (which probably just involves pulling a fuse) of disabling it as its not getting in the way of your fun, The P38 does a broadside drift just lovely ;)
 
boXXer said:
Hi all! just wondered if someone could help?

I want to disable the traction control on my P38 4.6 (1998) whilst all the lovely snow is out :D

DOes anyone know how to do this? is it a case of removing a fuse/relay?

any help would be much appreciated!

Thanks!
Mike
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It only works on yer back wheels anyway.
 
ssmn1234 said:
2 1/2 ton of P38 sideways in snow, hope you got a huge buffer zone.
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As always, its just a question of speed! In snow/ice you can have just as much fun at 10 or 15 mph as 3 times that speed otherwise. Also the consequences of getting it wrong are lessened considerably.

I've been out drifting my RRC 3.9 every morning at 7.30am on deserted streets these last few days having a blast and I've never had to cross 30mph. I then come home, park it up, and get on with life as normal in the P38 for the rest of the day:D
 
SpudH said:
P38 Traction Control is not like other manufacturers TC, It doesn't cut the power. It actively applies the brake to the spinning wheel to transfer torque to the other wheel with grip.

New TC's or Stability controls (BMW, Toyota, in fact almost everybody else - probably the newer LR's too!) return traction by cutting power - no fun! Yes you want to turn them off to have fun. My wifes Prius is particularily intusive :eek:, also the Ssannyong rextons are brutal.:doh:

But bless the P38 its different:p. Therefore it doesn't detract from the fun one little bit, merely makes recovering a slide better and the chances of getting stuck lower = more fun:D So don't bother trying to find a way (which probably just involves pulling a fuse) of disabling it as its not getting in the way of your fun, The P38 does a broadside drift just lovely ;)
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brilliant reply, thankyou very much! i never knew it kept the power in. ;) i know what you mean about the BMW TC system, as i have a 530d and the TC is RUBBISH! if anything it makes things worse as it just stops the throttle dead!

im basically going to a nice big open field tonight with some mates, and im taking the camcorder so expect some footage with any luck.

think i'll leave the fuse in as it sounds like fun :D
 
yeah, but theres NO traction on our roads at the moment as they are pure ice and 4" deep in snow! My range rover just ploughed through it all and its been loads of fun.

i also have 2x sierra cosworths and 2x mk1 escorts, all RWD, but you need some sort of traction to have a good time in them! (i.e, rain!), they are crap in pure snowy weather and just dont go anywhere.
 
boXXer said:
i also have 2x sierra cosworths and 2x mk1 escorts, all RWD, but you need some sort of traction to have a good time in them! (i.e, rain!), they are crap in pure snowy weather and just dont go anywhere.
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Ahh, the memories:):)

Theres a huge Ford fan base over here, Mark I/II Escorts in particular (they were manufactured over here in Cork) but the Cosworths are revered as well. During the celtic Tiger boom there were guys doing a roaring trade bringing Mark 2's in from Australia (there are rumours that a few made the trip with V8's under the hood:D)as there are v.few indigenous Mark 2's left here, anything that tin worm didn't get was wrapped around a gate post or tree as rally cars.

You might have seen this before but here is a clip from what I think is the greatest Mark 2 driver of them all (on tarmac anyway), Dominique Mathy, his control on the exit of a slide would make any modern day 'drifter' weep and go green with envy. And this was done on a live rally stage on standard roads, not the predictability of a stadium track!


Dailymotion - Dominique Mathy: Rallye d'El Pannetrie 1994 - une vidéo Auto et Moto

 
boXXer said:
yeah, but theres NO traction on our roads at the moment as they are pure ice and 4" deep in snow! My range rover just ploughed through it all and its been loads of fun.

i also have 2x sierra cosworths and 2x mk1 escorts, all RWD, but you need some sort of traction to have a good time in them! (i.e, rain!), they are crap in pure snowy weather and just dont go anywhere.
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Another land rover and cosworth owner me too !!!

do all p38 have traction control? didn't know mine did!!!

Could be why when i start to get the back end out it snatches back.
 
steve's P38 RR said:
Another land rover and cosworth owner me too !!!

do all p38 have traction control? didn't know mine did!!!

Could be why when i start to get the back end out it snatches back.
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No,some of the old sheds just had ABS.Peasant spec ones with cloth seats,manual box etc.
 
There's an interesting thread on the rangerovers.net p38 forum about a potentially dangerous 'design fault' in the 2 wheel traction control unit.

Apparently there's a plastic part in there that becomes brittle and breaks, leaving you with no brakes whatsoever and with no warning of impending failure.

The thread goes on to say the 4 wheel TC models had this part replaced with stainless steel.

The author is selling a repair kit (consisting of a new part made of stainless steel) but it's a 10 hour job apparently!

Anyone come across this?
 
As i have a Peasant model i will not have this fault or have to spend the 10 hours repairing it, will be out playing in the mud while you get your tc fixed lol :p:p
 
Thing is its a bit scary when you two lights coming on and not going out as they should after a few seconds according to the handbook,
today the ABS light and the TC lights have stayed on, and I get the feeling the TC is activating and slow things down. What is the fix remedy
anyone please, where is the bloody TC hiding on my 2.5 DSE 1997 LHD ?
 
RovyCouple said:
Thing is its a bit scary when you two lights coming on and not going out as they should after a few seconds according to the handbook,
today the ABS light and the TC lights have stayed on, and I get the feeling the TC is activating and slow things down. What is the fix remedy
anyone please, where is the bloody TC hiding on my 2.5 DSE 1997 LHD ?
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Up under the dash passenger on RHD so I would expect the same on LHD, I can check tomorrow.
Your Nanocom when you get it working will tell you what faults are recorded.
You can hear the Traction Control/ABS when it's operating, quiet it's not.
Brakes will get very hot it it's continually operating, feel for hot wheels.
Could be a duff sensor or a number of other things.
 
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