diff ratios

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David6214

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off the top of your heads...does anyone know the diff ratios of a standard series 3 and of a range rover (i'm guessing a 73 one). I have driven my 'new' diesel landy today and it feels pretty slow compared with my old one, top speed is certainly less - per sat nav -I just wondered if its the axles that are making the difference....
 
you are correct, i didn't - wanted a quick answer, so thanks for that....seems they are the same then....if it isn't that I still need to work out why one is soooo much faster than the other.

trouble with having more than one land rover is you spend more time making decision s on what to fix , what has the best bits etc than the actual work you'd do if you were just to get on with one!
 
you are correct, i didn't - wanted a quick answer, so thanks for that....seems they are the same then....if it isn't that I still need to work out why one is soooo much faster than the other.

trouble with having more than one land rover is you spend more time making decision s on what to fix , what has the best bits etc than the actual work you'd do if you were just to get on with one!

Remember, the two TRANSFER BOX ratios can be different too.

As I recall, the Series uses a REDUCTION in the Hi range transfer ratio.

Check it out .... 'cos it isn't only the final drive that can reduce the OVERALL drive ratio.

CharlesY
 
Isn't it only the low range that is different?

Oh dearie me .....

Every gear can be a reduction gear, an equal gear, or an increasing gear.

In a series Landy gearbox, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and reverse are all reduction gears. 4th is direct drive, no gears, "one-to-one", so we call that an equal gear.

Next comes the transfer box.

Typically a Landy HIGH range is a REDUCTION gear 1.41 : 1
and the LOW range is an even more severe reduction 3.32 : 1

That means in HI range the gearbox output shaft turns 1.41 times to turn the prop shaft ONE turn, and 3.32 turns in LO range.

The axles are REDUCTION gears too, probably 4.7 to 1.

In low range first gear therefore, the reduction is about 45 to one, thus MULTIPLYING THE ENGINE TORQUE about 45 times, but slowing you down compared to the speed you would be doing in top gear high range.

If you have 120 pounds-feet torque at the engine flywheel, by the time it reaches the axles in first gear low range it is multiplied to a whopping FIVE THOUSAND pounds-feet, which is why half shafts get snapped.

Some Series Landies may use ratios slightly different from these figures, but not so much as matters.

CharlesY
 
We know all that.
The question is just, is the high range Ser II the same ratios as a Ser III?
The difference in low range is very noticeable.
 
We know all that.
The question is just, is the high range Ser II the same ratios as a Ser III?
The difference in low range is very noticeable.

I don't think there's any difference in the low range ratios, and even if there was not so much as you would notice.

What makes you think it noticeable?

What you might notice could be different engine behaviours.

CharlesY
 
That Ser II's in low range, creep about more slowly than Ser III's, and that includes my Ser III now it has a Ser II gearbox & transfer box.
 
Been to look it up ("The Range Rover/Land Rover" by Graham Robson)

1948-1967 High Range 1.148:1, Low Range 2.89:1
1967 0n High Range 1.148:1, Low Range 2.35:1
1 ton, FC etc High Range 1.53:1, Low Range 3.27:1

I make that a difference of around 20%
First gear is lower on the later boxes to compensate (or more likely the other way round) but once you get into low 2nd or 3rd the difference is definitely noticeable
 
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