P38A Died and will not start
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Did you bridge the relay with the ignition on? If you hear nothing the pump is pooped.
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Just checked Wammers post in the Technical Archive and it is 180 mL of fuel in 10 seconds with +12V on position 5 of relay 12.
Radar1946
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I can hear the pump working when I turn the ignition on , after the clear pipe goes down about 4 inches.
Removed the intake pipe on the filter and put the end in a bottle, fuel came through but nowhere near 180ml. it seemed more like dribble than a gush.
Removed the intake pipe on the filter and put the end in a bottle, fuel came through but nowhere near 180ml. it seemed more like dribble than a gush.
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Has it got diesel in the tank ,the fuel gauge might be faulty 
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RangeRoller dt
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On 2001 lift pump should run with ignition on.
180mils anything less pump is fubar which is a gush. Either have to drop the tank or chop up your pride and joy (Drop the tank) good chance if it’s not been done before the unions are rotted out
180mils anything less pump is fubar which is a gush. Either have to drop the tank or chop up your pride and joy (Drop the tank
) good chance if it’s not been done before the unions are rotted out
Radar1946
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Any one know where to get a decent fuel pump from?
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Go to island4x4. Get the VDO unit. It's around the sub £200 mark I think over your way. Don't ve tempted to get the cheaper unit
RangeRoller dt
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Usual places island, paddock spares, eBay even etc. Id shop about as prices seem to vary.
As Mark says get a VDO unit, I know they are more expensive but the cheaper ones have proven to be pretty much useless. likely need new bits for the connectors too, the olives and that sometimes on the kit sometimes not.
As Mark says get a VDO unit, I know they are more expensive but the cheaper ones have proven to be pretty much useless. likely need new bits for the connectors too, the olives and that sometimes on the kit sometimes not.
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Well pointed out dt, new olives as well.
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If your dropping the tank you may also need a new filer neck connection hose if its any thing like mine its looking a bit tired and cracking.
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Atleast you don’t have brake lines to do you shouldn’t have them behind the tank
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I think you ought to put some pictures up. A lovely looking example there.
@tomcat59alan: a side issue, that big fuse for the glowplugs, is it under the engine ECU? I thought it was in the ECU box but I opened the lid and it wasn't immediately obvious. Nanocom showed only glow-plug heater fault.
@tomcat59alan: a side issue, that big fuse for the glowplugs, is it under the engine ECU? I thought it was in the ECU box but I opened the lid and it wasn't immediately obvious. Nanocom showed only glow-plug heater fault.
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Sorry been busy,yes it's there with the timer relay IMMIC, sounds like his problem is the fuel pump depending on the level of fuel in the tank.easy to check power at the glow plugs and the cut out solenoid with a test lamp.Did the OP crack off the injectors to check he had fuel up to them?
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Atleast you don’t have brake lines to do you shouldn’t have them behind the tank
On the early cars the two rear lines both go to the center of the rear cross member, the later ones have one pipe for the rear passenger caliper that runs all the way across the cross member, can both can be done with tank in bur a lot lot easier if tank is out.
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No need. Turned the ignition and apparently only a dribble of diesel came out of the pipe for the filter. You can hear the lift pump but it doesn't sound like mine!
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First and foremost I want to thank Grrrrr for going out of his way to call at my house and put his Nanocom on the car.
I have bought a new fuel pump and I shall have a go at fitting it tomorrow.
Thanks to all who have helped me sort it out. I sincerely hope I am able to return the favour.
I have bought a new fuel pump and I shall have a go at fitting it tomorrow.
Thanks to all who have helped me sort it out. I sincerely hope I am able to return the favour.
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No problem. Not that it helped much.
As Brian says it might be worth replacing the rubber between fuel filler neck and tank. It certainly makes it easier if you're dropping the tank. While the tank is out check the brake lines over the rear cradle part. Pump should come with new olives; if not it might be worth getting a few.
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I'd make à call to the supplier/shop of the pump about the olives. Mine had come from island and didn't come with olives.....
