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Lee_D

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Well finally got to take Morph off road, didn't quite do as much as hoped
but did managed to

a) scare myself to the point of forgetting to breath
b) get stuck (diff lock failed to perform when required - not that I need an
excuse! ;-) )
c) take a few piccys. (
http://www.lrproject.com/pictures/derbyshire/index.html )

Big thanks to Tim, RRB ( Both loiterers in the Mud Club Forum) and Chris (as
in
http://www.themorgans.info/expedition/Contents_Main.php
) for pointing us down the lanes that Morph would fit, We did Stanage
Edge. Sceneary was wonderful and in the main walkers were very friendly and
inquisitive as to what the trucks were and what we would do if other Landies
came the other way up Stanage "We'd stick the kettle on!" was the reply. Be
rude not to ;-)

Just need to fix;
Diff lock - and replace the bulb which also blew,
replace a relay which a terminal snapped off :-(
Fix fuel level sensor (suspect dodgie connector on the tank)
Eberscpacher developed a mind of it's own, cold fan comes on when it likes
and heater failed to heat, h'mmm

Lee D
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"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Well finally got to take Morph off road, didn't quite do as much as hoped
> but did managed to
>
> a) scare myself to the point of forgetting to breath
> b) get stuck (diff lock failed to perform when required - not that I need
> an excuse! ;-) )
> c) take a few piccys. (
> http://www.lrproject.com/pictures/derbyshire/index.html )
>
> Big thanks to Tim, RRB ( Both loiterers in the Mud Club Forum) and Chris
> (as in
> http://www.themorgans.info/expedition/Contents_Main.php
> ) for pointing us down the lanes that Morph would fit, We did Stanage
> Edge. Sceneary was wonderful and in the main walkers were very friendly
> and inquisitive as to what the trucks were and what we would do if other
> Landies came the other way up Stanage "We'd stick the kettle on!" was the
> reply. Be rude not to ;-)
>
> Just need to fix;
> Diff lock - and replace the bulb which also blew,
> replace a relay which a terminal snapped off :-(
> Fix fuel level sensor (suspect dodgie connector on the tank)
> Eberscpacher developed a mind of it's own, cold fan comes on when it likes
> and heater failed to heat, h'mmm
>
> Lee D
> --
> www.lrproject.com
>
>
Looks good did you stop for a bite to eat then
http://www.walkingbritain.co.uk/walks/walks1/images/090b.jpg
still no nearer buying a landy btw - we were offroad in the scooby today but
not very far time will tell.
Derek


 
Derek <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> Looks good did you stop for a bite to eat then
> http://www.walkingbritain.co.uk/walks/walks1/images/090b.jpg
> still no nearer buying a landy btw - we were offroad in the scooby
> today but not very far time will tell.
> Derek

LOL!

We had a pic nic which the kids enjoyed (read "me") and had a liesurely
mooch on the way back due to an early finish following a break down of one
of the groups Rangies. Rest stopped off at a pub for some grub but given my
fan was sticking on when it wanted too I didn't fancey a flat battery too.

Your search for a Landie is getting like a star trek mission ;-)

Lee
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Derek wrote:
> "Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Well finally got to take Morph off road, didn't quite do as much as
>> hoped but did managed to
>>
>> a) scare myself to the point of forgetting to breath
>> b) get stuck (diff lock failed to perform when required - not that I
>> need an excuse! ;-) )
>> c) take a few piccys. (
>> http://www.lrproject.com/pictures/derbyshire/index.html )
>>
>> Big thanks to Tim, RRB ( Both loiterers in the Mud Club Forum) and
>> Chris (as in
>> http://www.themorgans.info/expedition/Contents_Main.php
>> ) for pointing us down the lanes that Morph would fit, We did
>> Stanage Edge. Sceneary was wonderful and in the main walkers were
>> very friendly and inquisitive as to what the trucks were and what we
>> would do if other Landies came the other way up Stanage "We'd stick
>> the kettle on!" was the reply. Be rude not to ;-)
>>
>> Just need to fix;
>> Diff lock - and replace the bulb which also blew,
>> replace a relay which a terminal snapped off :-(
>> Fix fuel level sensor (suspect dodgie connector on the tank)
>> Eberscpacher developed a mind of it's own, cold fan comes on when it
>> likes and heater failed to heat, h'mmm
>>
>> Lee D
>> --
>> www.lrproject.com
>>
>>
> Looks good did you stop for a bite to eat then
> http://www.walkingbritain.co.uk/walks/walks1/images/090b.jpg
> still no nearer buying a landy btw - we were offroad in the scooby
> today but not very far time will tell.
> Derek


My LSE is still on ebay after some serious nutballs wrecked my last auction.

Nige


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Lee_D wrote:
> Well finally got to take Morph off road, didn't quite do as much as
> hoped but did managed to
>
> a) scare myself to the point of forgetting to breath
> b) get stuck (diff lock failed to perform when required - not that I
> need an excuse! ;-) )
> c) take a few piccys. (
> http://www.lrproject.com/pictures/derbyshire/index.html )
>
> Big thanks to Tim, RRB ( Both loiterers in the Mud Club Forum) and
> Chris (as in
> http://www.themorgans.info/expedition/Contents_Main.php
> ) for pointing us down the lanes that Morph would fit, We did Stanage
> Edge. Sceneary was wonderful and in the main walkers were very
> friendly and inquisitive as to what the trucks were and what we would
> do if other Landies came the other way up Stanage "We'd stick the
> kettle on!" was the reply. Be rude not to ;-)
>
> Just need to fix;
> Diff lock - and replace the bulb which also blew,
> replace a relay which a terminal snapped off :-(
> Fix fuel level sensor (suspect dodgie connector on the tank)
> Eberscpacher developed a mind of it's own, cold fan comes on when it
> likes and heater failed to heat, h'mmm
>
> Lee D

Looks nice, do you reckon a standard P38 with a useless **** at the wheel could do it? Without wrecking
the car that is!!

I would be up for that.

Nige


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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:39:09 -0000, "Lee_D"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Well finally got to take Morph off road, didn't quite do as much as hoped
>but did managed to
>
>a) scare myself to the point of forgetting to breath
>b) get stuck (diff lock failed to perform when required - not that I need an
>excuse! ;-) )
>c) take a few piccys. (
>http://www.lrproject.com/pictures/derbyshire/index.html )

Glad it went well, you chose a nice day for it!
At the start of the week i was thinking of coming with you in the 2A
like you suggested but then I got invited out to the pub and
(correctly as it turned out) figured that i wouldnt be in a fit state
for much today :)

How did you manage to scare yourself?
 
Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:

> Looks nice, do you reckon a standard P38 with a useless **** at the
> wheel could do it? Without wrecking the car that is!!
>
> I would be up for that.
>
> Nige

Erm yes but I'd be reluctant to do it in our Disco (Even if it didn't have
LPG tanks on the chassis). I'll do it in your P38 though ;-) ... in fact
how about a test drive in the LSE? That extra few inches should make it
interesting

:-D

It's perfectly possible to get down in one piece and quite a few have in
unmodified Landies, just needs good spotters, some luck and some more luck.
I had a few moments where I was expecting to see insulation from the 101
hanging from the rocks.. got stranded once on the diff due to paying more
attention to lean and the rock face proximity to my tonka toy. Then got
stuck within sight of the road as one of my rear wheels waved in the air
as the front went to visit a sub terrainian underworld at the bottom of a
puddle , due to the Diff lock being on strike we came to a big wonky halt.
It's as well we were coming down Stanage, if we had been going up it may
have been a different story and I could well still be there.

Lee


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Lee_D wrote:
> Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>
>> Looks nice, do you reckon a standard P38 with a useless **** at the
>> wheel could do it? Without wrecking the car that is!!
>>
>> I would be up for that.
>>
>> Nige
>
> Erm yes but I'd be reluctant to do it in our Disco (Even if it didn't
> have LPG tanks on the chassis). I'll do it in your P38 though ;-) ... in fact how about a test drive in
> the LSE? That extra few inches
> should make it interesting
>
> :-D
>
> It's perfectly possible to get down in one piece and quite a few have
> in unmodified Landies, just needs good spotters, some luck and some
> more luck. I had a few moments where I was expecting to see
> insulation from the 101 hanging from the rocks.. got stranded once on
> the diff due to paying more attention to lean and the rock face
> proximity to my tonka toy. Then got stuck within sight of the road as
> one of my rear wheels waved in the air as the front went to visit a
> sub terrainian underworld at the bottom of a puddle , due to the Diff
> lock being on strike we came to a big wonky halt. It's as well we
> were coming down Stanage, if we had been going up it may have been a
> different story and I could well still be there.
> Lee

Just looking at the pics, a bit too rocky really i fear! If you're ever coming that far North again
though, we could easily bob along for a try!!!

I'm gonna get some cheapy 16inch wheels off ebay & get some decent AT tyres on. These on the P38 would be
****e off road at best!!

Me LSE is still on eBay due to some **** copying my auction chapter & verse ffs. I bollocked them & they
are now threatening to ruin my new auction. God, why did eBay ever advertise on TV. The LSE could be fun
though! If you get stuck try setting the air sus to it's lowest setting & rock the car free!! I really
don't want to seel the LSE as i love it to bits, but, i could do with a cheaper motor for off roading, oh
& one that can acutally get over a speed ramp without flatting out!!

Nige



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Tom Woods <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> How did you manage to scare yourself?

Wheels at opposite ends doing opposite things on the edge of the world...
probably think nowt of it in a normal ground hugging car but when your
leaning over so far you can see what you will land on and it carrys on
coming closer it kind of took my breath away.... then it came back and about
ten seconds later I regained control of other bodily functions :-D

Been a while since I experienced fear like that. Still on the bright side I
was already in an Ambulance :-D

Lee

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"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>
> > Looks nice, do you reckon a standard P38 with a useless **** at the
> > wheel could do it? Without wrecking the car that is!!
> >
> > I would be up for that.
> >
> > Nige
>
> Erm yes but I'd be reluctant to do it in our Disco (Even if it didn't have
> LPG tanks on the chassis). I'll do it in your P38 though ;-) ... in fact
> how about a test drive in the LSE? That extra few inches should make it
> interesting
>
> :-D
>
> It's perfectly possible to get down in one piece and quite a few have in
> unmodified Landies, just needs good spotters, some luck and some more
luck.
> I had a few moments where I was expecting to see insulation from the 101
> hanging from the rocks.. got stranded once on the diff due to paying more
> attention to lean and the rock face proximity to my tonka toy. Then got
> stuck within sight of the road as one of my rear wheels waved in the air
> as the front went to visit a sub terrainian underworld at the bottom of a
> puddle , due to the Diff lock being on strike we came to a big wonky halt.
> It's as well we were coming down Stanage, if we had been going up it may
> have been a different story and I could well still be there.
>
> Lee

I was coming down Stanage Edge a couple of years ago in the Series 2 and had
to pull over as a bloke was riding *up* on a mountain bike! He looked a bit
surprised to see me and the mrs there and when he got level he promptly fell
off. Not well pleased was he. By the way, is that big rock still sticking
out in the road halfway down?

Martin


 
Oily <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
> "Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Nige <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
>> funny about:
>>
>>> Looks nice, do you reckon a standard P38 with a useless **** at the
>>> wheel could do it? Without wrecking the car that is!!
>>>
>>> I would be up for that.
>>>
>>> Nige
>>
>> Erm yes but I'd be reluctant to do it in our Disco (Even if it
>> didn't have LPG tanks on the chassis). I'll do it in your P38 though
>> ;-) ... in fact how about a test drive in the LSE? That extra few
>> inches should make it interesting
>>
>> :-D
>>
>> It's perfectly possible to get down in one piece and quite a few
>> have in unmodified Landies, just needs good spotters, some luck and
>> some more luck. I had a few moments where I was expecting to see
>> insulation from the 101 hanging from the rocks.. got stranded once
>> on the diff due to paying more attention to lean and the rock face
>> proximity to my tonka toy. Then got stuck within sight of the road
>> as one of my rear wheels waved in the air as the front went to
>> visit a sub terrainian underworld at the bottom of a puddle , due to
>> the Diff lock being on strike we came to a big wonky halt. It's as
>> well we were coming down Stanage, if we had been going up it may
>> have been a different story and I could well still be there.
>>
>> Lee
>
> I was coming down Stanage Edge a couple of years ago in the Series 2
> and had to pull over as a bloke was riding *up* on a mountain bike!
> He looked a bit surprised to see me and the mrs there and when he got
> level he promptly fell off. Not well pleased was he. By the way, is
> that big rock still sticking out in the road halfway down?
>
> Martin


 
Lee_D <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz
funny about:
>> I was coming down Stanage Edge a couple of years ago in the Series 2
>> and had to pull over as a bloke was riding *up* on a mountain bike!
>> He looked a bit surprised to see me and the mrs there and when he got
>> level he promptly fell off. Not well pleased was he. By the way, is
>> that big rock still sticking out in the road halfway down?
>>
>> Martin

whoops, sent it before I'd typed it ;-)

There are some really baffled peeps up there :) A couple come past us who
I thought may have been the first Anti's of the day, they went on to Chat to
Chris for a good 5 minutes about his Africa trip then and were most pleasant
in deed.

As for the rock, how long is it since you went? I think it has had children
who are now fully grown.

If I hadn't seen Chris go down in front (and not roll over!) I'd had
reversed all the way back. There were quite a few peeps who just sat down to
have there snapping and were quite openly watching in disbelief. I may need
a councilor for the rest of the family too ;-) at least now they know why I
was insitant in fitting forward facing seats with seatbelts in the back.

Lee
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"Nige" > wrote in message>>>
>>> >
>
> My LSE is still on ebay after some serious nutballs wrecked my last
> auction.
>
> Nige
>
Thanks for the offer mate but I'm looking for economy current front runner
is a Disco mpi /tdi or a dual fueller.Its mainly for sporting transport good
as the Legacy is when the grass gets high ( middle of the Wood pigeon
season) I can't get close to set up hides and decoys without fear of popping
the radiator on shrubbery (ni ) plus we need a boat tow / launch vehicle .
Derek
(no landy yet curse you ebay)


 
Derek <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
about:
> Thanks for the offer mate but I'm looking for economy current front
> runner is a Disco mpi /tdi or a dual fueller.Its mainly for sporting
> transport good as the Legacy is when the grass gets high ( middle of
> the Wood pigeon season) I can't get close to set up hides and decoys
> without fear of popping the radiator on shrubbery (ni ) plus we need
> a boat tow / launch vehicle . Derek
> (no landy yet curse you ebay)

DON'T get an MPi, after a V8 it's akin to an 850 mini. But on the bright
side if you do then you should get one cheap. I'd go Tdi personally. LPG if
you want a V8 but if it's all round economy then you need a Camo'd 101 on
LPG, instant hide... emergency Pigeon hatch and you'd need one muther of a
bush to muffle your rad.

Lee
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"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Derek <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> about:
>> Thanks for the offer mate but I'm looking for economy current front
>> runner is a Disco mpi /tdi or a dual fueller.Its mainly for sporting
>> transport good as the Legacy is when the grass gets high ( middle of
>> the Wood pigeon season) I can't get close to set up hides and decoys
>> without fear of popping the radiator on shrubbery (ni ) plus we need
>> a boat tow / launch vehicle . Derek
>> (no landy yet curse you ebay)
>
> DON'T get an MPi, after a V8 it's akin to an 850 mini. But on the bright
> side if you do then you should get one cheap. I'd go Tdi personally. LPG
> if you want a V8 but if it's all round economy then you need a Camo'd 101
> on LPG, instant hide... emergency Pigeon hatch and you'd need one muther
> of a bush to muffle your rad.
>
> Lee
> --
> www.lrproject.com
>
>
I could live with an Mpi remember I peddle a Merc Atego round 5 days a week
loaded its like a very big SII ( only quieter) I could say what else I was
looking at but then I would have to kill folk to avoid being outbid
Derek


 
....and Derek spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...


> "Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Derek <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
>> about:
>>> Thanks for the offer mate but I'm looking for economy current front
>>> runner is a Disco mpi /tdi or a dual fueller.Its mainly for sporting
>>> transport good as the Legacy is when the grass gets high ( middle of
>>> the Wood pigeon season) I can't get close to set up hides and decoys
>>> without fear of popping the radiator on shrubbery (ni ) plus we need
>>> a boat tow / launch vehicle . Derek
>>> (no landy yet curse you ebay)
>>
>> DON'T get an MPi, after a V8 it's akin to an 850 mini. But on the
>> bright side if you do then you should get one cheap. I'd go Tdi
>> personally. LPG if you want a V8 but if it's all round economy then
>> you need a Camo'd 101 on LPG, instant hide... emergency Pigeon hatch
>> and you'd need one muther of a bush to muffle your rad.
>>
>> Lee
>> --
>> www.lrproject.com
>>
>>
> I could live with an Mpi remember I peddle a Merc Atego round 5 days
> a week loaded its like a very big SII ( only quieter) I could say
> what else I was looking at but then I would have to kill folk to
> avoid being outbid Derek

Mpi - similar economy to a V8, similar power to a Tdi. Plus it's an engine
more suited to a road car, revvy and without much torque, so not much good
off-road, OSIH. They make no sense in the UK apart from a low buying
price - their intended market was abroad (Italy?) where the vehicle taxation
regime made selling the V8s uneconomic. Go the extra and get a Tdi.

--
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==============================

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and those who don't.


 
In message <[email protected]>
"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote:

> ...and Derek spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
>
> > "Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >> Derek <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
> >> about:
> >>> Thanks for the offer mate but I'm looking for economy current front
> >>> runner is a Disco mpi /tdi or a dual fueller.Its mainly for sporting
> >>> transport good as the Legacy is when the grass gets high ( middle of
> >>> the Wood pigeon season) I can't get close to set up hides and decoys
> >>> without fear of popping the radiator on shrubbery (ni ) plus we need
> >>> a boat tow / launch vehicle . Derek
> >>> (no landy yet curse you ebay)
> >>
> >> DON'T get an MPi, after a V8 it's akin to an 850 mini. But on the
> >> bright side if you do then you should get one cheap. I'd go Tdi
> >> personally. LPG if you want a V8 but if it's all round economy then
> >> you need a Camo'd 101 on LPG, instant hide... emergency Pigeon hatch
> >> and you'd need one muther of a bush to muffle your rad.
> >>
> >> Lee
> >> --
> >> www.lrproject.com
> >>
> >>
> > I could live with an Mpi remember I peddle a Merc Atego round 5 days
> > a week loaded its like a very big SII ( only quieter) I could say
> > what else I was looking at but then I would have to kill folk to
> > avoid being outbid Derek
>
> Mpi - similar economy to a V8, similar power to a Tdi. Plus it's an engine
> more suited to a road car, revvy and without much torque, so not much good
> off-road, OSIH. They make no sense in the UK apart from a low buying
> price - their intended market was abroad (Italy?) where the vehicle taxation
> regime made selling the V8s uneconomic. Go the extra and get a Tdi.
>

It was propsed UK Company Car regulations that prompted the Mpi. They
never were introduced. The engine did end up in some Italian Poilice 90's
as well.

The worst thing about Mpi's is the non-avaiability, and price, of some
spares.

Richard
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"Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote
>
>
> There are some really baffled peeps up there :) A couple come past us
who
> I thought may have been the first Anti's of the day, they went on to Chat
to
> Chris for a good 5 minutes about his Africa trip then and were most
pleasant
> in deed.
>
> As for the rock, how long is it since you went? I think it has had
children
> who are now fully grown.
>
Yes I suppose it must be nearer 10 yrs since I've been on Stanage Edge,
there was one big rock that you had to go round right on the 'Edge' and the
Mrs got out and walked while I went past it and said something like " You
can't see down here from your side, sod that", not quite tarmac though the
rest of it, is it? . Good fun. Time for another trip I think.

> If I hadn't seen Chris go down in front (and not roll over!) I'd had
> reversed all the way back. There were quite a few peeps who just sat down
to
> have there snapping and were quite openly watching in disbelief. I may
need
> a councilor for the rest of the family too ;-) at least now they know why
I
> was insitant in fitting forward facing seats with seatbelts in the back.
>
I think crash helmets would be alright for passengers as well on there ;-)

Martin


 

"Richard Brookman" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> ...and Derek spake unto the tribes of Usenet, saying...
>
>
>> "Lee_D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> Derek <[email protected]> uttered summat worrerz funny
>>> about:
>>>> Thanks for the offer mate but I'm looking for economy current front
>>>> runner is a Disco mpi /tdi or a dual fueller.Its mainly for sporting
>>>> transport good as the Legacy is when the grass gets high ( middle of
>>>> the Wood pigeon season) I can't get close to set up hides and decoys
>>>> without fear of popping the radiator on shrubbery (ni ) plus we need
>>>> a boat tow / launch vehicle . Derek
>>>> (no landy yet curse you ebay)
>>>
>>> DON'T get an MPi, after a V8 it's akin to an 850 mini. But on the
>>> bright side if you do then you should get one cheap. I'd go Tdi
>>> personally. LPG if you want a V8 but if it's all round economy then
>>> you need a Camo'd 101 on LPG, instant hide... emergency Pigeon hatch
>>> and you'd need one muther of a bush to muffle your rad.
>>>
>>> Lee
>>> --
>>> www.lrproject.com
>>>
>>>
>> I could live with an Mpi remember I peddle a Merc Atego round 5 days
>> a week loaded its like a very big SII ( only quieter) I could say
>> what else I was looking at but then I would have to kill folk to
>> avoid being outbid Derek
>
> Mpi - similar economy to a V8, similar power to a Tdi. Plus it's an
> engine more suited to a road car, revvy and without much torque, so not
> much good off-road, OSIH. They make no sense in the UK apart from a low
> buying price - their intended market was abroad (Italy?) where the vehicle
> taxation regime made selling the V8s uneconomic. Go the extra and get a
> Tdi.
>
> --
> Rich
> ==============================
>
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary
> and those who don't.
There is the rub if you look at the stats for mpg and performance the mpi
looks a decent prospect ( 134 bhp 0-60 15.3s as against TDi 111bhp 0-60
17.2s ).
Like everything else it doesnt tell the full story the fuel economy
certainly favours the TDi and as said the MPi isn't a lot different to the
V8 of course if you add in a gas conversion the MPi looks better than the
TDi .Extreme offroad performance hence torque isn't much of a issue to me as
most of my O-R mileage is down muddy farm tracks sometimes the gound
clearance is a problem with the Legacy (just one or two spring to mind- see
earlier post) but I have been offroading long enough to know when to quit
..At the end of the day I may go back to a Rangie the big downside is
lifting a knackered very very muddy gundog into the back at the end of a
long days shooting side opening doors are a major consideration - really I
have all the time in the world (and a favorite song too ) as the scooby is
good for another year ( changed a blown bulb before mot) so I will wait
until the right motor turns up or go nuts and have a series as a muddy
motor.
Derek


 
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