Defender Window Mechanicsm's.....

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Jon

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• Dec 19, 2005

• #1

I have a problem with my front passenger doorr window (1992 90).

It will wind down just enough to get my fingers outside. If I push
down at the point where the glass bevels downwards and keep winding
the windows will go down. Once it gets about 80% of the way down
everything is "normal".

Likewise on the way up, first bit is fine middle bit upto about an
inch from the op the window needs to be lifted as well as wound, last
bit is fine.


I took the door card off and inner skin yesterday to have a look.
Greased all the balls, slides and pivot mechanism. There is no
siffness in the winder mechanism itself.

Any ideas? Could something somewhere be bent? It all looks straight
(appart from the obvious manufacturing bends / folds).


Thanks
Jon

 

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beamendsltd

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• Dec 19, 2005

• #2

In message <[email protected]>
Jon <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have a problem with my front passenger doorr window (1992 90).
>
> It will wind down just enough to get my fingers outside. If I push
> down at the point where the glass bevels downwards and keep winding
> the windows will go down. Once it gets about 80% of the way down
> everything is "normal".
>
> Likewise on the way up, first bit is fine middle bit upto about an
> inch from the op the window needs to be lifted as well as wound, last
> bit is fine.
>
>
> I took the door card off and inner skin yesterday to have a look.
> Greased all the balls, slides and pivot mechanism. There is no
> siffness in the winder mechanism itself.
>
> Any ideas? Could something somewhere be bent? It all looks straight
> (appart from the obvious manufacturing bends / folds).
>
>
> Thanks
> Jon
>

It sounds like a couple of teeth on the regulator have worn off/broken,
not uncommon.

Richard
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Jon

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• Dec 19, 2005

• #3

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:11:52 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
<[email protected]> wrote:

>In message <[email protected]>
> Jon <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have a problem with my front passenger doorr window (1992 90).
>>
>> It will wind down just enough to get my fingers outside. If I push
>> down at the point where the glass bevels downwards and keep winding
>> the windows will go down. Once it gets about 80% of the way down
>> everything is "normal".
>>
>> Likewise on the way up, first bit is fine middle bit upto about an
>> inch from the op the window needs to be lifted as well as wound, last
>> bit is fine.
>>
>>
>> I took the door card off and inner skin yesterday to have a look.
>> Greased all the balls, slides and pivot mechanism. There is no
>> siffness in the winder mechanism itself.
>>
>> Any ideas? Could something somewhere be bent? It all looks straight
>> (appart from the obvious manufacturing bends / folds).
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jon
>>
>
>It sounds like a couple of teeth on the regulator have worn off/broken,
>not uncommon.
>
>Richard

Richard,
Thanks for the thought. Im not sure its broken teeth though. If I
dont assist the mechanism down then there is a LOT of pressure needed
on the handle (to the point where I think it would break if I carried
on winding). Wouldnt broken teeth show up as the winder winding but
nothing happening at the glass?

Jon

 

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beamendsltd

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• Dec 19, 2005

• #4

In message <[email protected]>
Jon <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:11:52 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In message <[email protected]>
> > Jon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> I have a problem with my front passenger doorr window (1992 90).
> >>
> >> It will wind down just enough to get my fingers outside. If I push
> >> down at the point where the glass bevels downwards and keep winding
> >> the windows will go down. Once it gets about 80% of the way down
> >> everything is "normal".
> >>
> >> Likewise on the way up, first bit is fine middle bit upto about an
> >> inch from the op the window needs to be lifted as well as wound, last
> >> bit is fine.
> >>
> >>
> >> I took the door card off and inner skin yesterday to have a look.
> >> Greased all the balls, slides and pivot mechanism. There is no
> >> siffness in the winder mechanism itself.
> >>
> >> Any ideas? Could something somewhere be bent? It all looks straight
> >> (appart from the obvious manufacturing bends / folds).
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Jon
> >>
> >
> >It sounds like a couple of teeth on the regulator have worn off/broken,
> >not uncommon.
> >
> >Richard
>
> Richard,
> Thanks for the thought. Im not sure its broken teeth though. If I
> dont assist the mechanism down then there is a LOT of pressure needed
> on the handle (to the point where I think it would break if I carried
> on winding). Wouldnt broken teeth show up as the winder winding but
> nothing happening at the glass?
>
> Jon

Not necesserily - but without looking it's not realy possibel to be sure.

Richard
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Austin Shackles

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• Dec 19, 2005

• #5

On or around Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:21:22 +0000 (UTC), Jon <[email protected]>
enlightened us thusly:

>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:11:52 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
><[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>It sounds like a couple of teeth on the regulator have worn off/broken,
>>not uncommon.
>>
>>Richard
>
>Richard,
>Thanks for the thought. Im not sure its broken teeth though. If I
>dont assist the mechanism down then there is a LOT of pressure needed
>on the handle (to the point where I think it would break if I carried
>on winding). Wouldnt broken teeth show up as the winder winding but
>nothing happening at the glass?
>

On some things, the channels which the glass slides in can be out of place
and result in the glass being crooked and snaggy. dunno if this can happen
on a defender, though.
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as little trust as you can in tomorrow) Horace (65 - 8 BC) Odes, I.xi.8

 

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Jon

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• Dec 19, 2005

• #6

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:04:21 +0000, Austin Shackles
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On or around Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:21:22 +0000 (UTC), Jon <[email protected]>
>enlightened us thusly:
>
>>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:11:52 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>It sounds like a couple of teeth on the regulator have worn off/broken,
>>>not uncommon.
>>>
>>>Richard
>>
>>Richard,
>>Thanks for the thought. Im not sure its broken teeth though. If I
>>dont assist the mechanism down then there is a LOT of pressure needed
>>on the handle (to the point where I think it would break if I carried
>>on winding). Wouldnt broken teeth show up as the winder winding but
>>nothing happening at the glass?
>>
>
>On some things, the channels which the glass slides in can be out of place
>and result in the glass being crooked and snaggy. dunno if this can happen
>on a defender, though.

Thanks Austin, I'll have a look at this possibility. From memory
though the rubber sliders just flop about in the door skin and stop
the glass rattling against the frames!

 

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David J. Button

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• Dec 19, 2005

• #7

What is happening is that the glass, on the way down, is moving or trying to
move "outside" of the channel of felt/rubber which sits in a metal sleeve
below the glass height (i.e. the lower part of the door), or it gets
progressively stiffer until it either slides back in or is out of the
channel completely in which case it gets easier and winds down the rest of
the way.
Take the door panel off on the inside and glue the felt/rubber channel back
into the metal sleeve runner and all should be well.


--
Regards


David J. Button
"Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:04:21 +0000, Austin Shackles
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On or around Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:21:22 +0000 (UTC), Jon
>><[email protected]>
>>enlightened us thusly:
>>
>>>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:11:52 +0000 (UTC), beamendsltd
>>><[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>It sounds like a couple of teeth on the regulator have worn off/broken,
>>>>not uncommon.
>>>>
>>>>Richard
>>>
>>>Richard,
>>>Thanks for the thought. Im not sure its broken teeth though. If I
>>>dont assist the mechanism down then there is a LOT of pressure needed
>>>on the handle (to the point where I think it would break if I carried
>>>on winding). Wouldnt broken teeth show up as the winder winding but
>>>nothing happening at the glass?
>>>
>>
>>On some things, the channels which the glass slides in can be out of place
>>and result in the glass being crooked and snaggy. dunno if this can
>>happen
>>on a defender, though.
>
> Thanks Austin, I'll have a look at this possibility. From memory
> though the rubber sliders just flop about in the door skin and stop
> the glass rattling against the frames!

 

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Jon

Guest

• Dec 20, 2005

• #8

Many Thanks for the info...A job for Saturday...If she doesnt want to
drag me out for last minite Chrimbo shopping!!

Jon

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:43:49 +0000 (UTC), "David J. Button"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>What is happening is that the glass, on the way down, is moving or trying to
>move "outside" of the channel of felt/rubber which sits in a metal sleeve
>below the glass height (i.e. the lower part of the door), or it gets
>progressively stiffer until it either slides back in or is out of the
>channel completely in which case it gets easier and winds down the rest of
>the way.
>Take the door panel off on the inside and glue the felt/rubber channel back
>into the metal sleeve runner and all should be well.

 

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icky

Guest

• Dec 20, 2005

• #9

Hi Jon
Check also the channel on the bottom of the glass these have a tendancy to
rot in bits
Icky
"Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Many Thanks for the info...A job for Saturday...If she doesnt want to
> drag me out for last minite Chrimbo shopping!!
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:43:49 +0000 (UTC), "David J. Button"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>What is happening is that the glass, on the way down, is moving or trying
>>to
>>move "outside" of the channel of felt/rubber which sits in a metal sleeve
>>below the glass height (i.e. the lower part of the door), or it gets
>>progressively stiffer until it either slides back in or is out of the
>>channel completely in which case it gets easier and winds down the rest of
>>the way.
>>Take the door panel off on the inside and glue the felt/rubber channel
>>back
>>into the metal sleeve runner and all should be well.
>