Defender prices....

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....seem to have stabilised, except on Ebay where the silly season is still in full swing.

Not so prices for the new Jimny, currently ours is worth £24,000 which is £6,000 over list.

Even WBAC offered £20,000. Our local LR specialist had a silver Jimny in a couple of weeks ago at £24,000 and it sold in two days.

l hope all this madness settles down and Defenders become more affordable, likewise the Jimny, obviously it's great for owners but it means most people won't be able to get one.
 
Everything is expensive at the moment, l think there's a lot of spare money sitting in people's accounts either because they've had no holidays (so spent nothing) or the govt has biffed a fortune into their accounts.

l've got friends who have had £20-30,000 in SEISS grants and they've carried on trading, the grants were not means tested they were just handed out.
 
Depending on the future prices of the Defender, I may or may not get another. £15k for a TD5......err no ta.
After owning a fair few of them over the years, there's no way I'm going to be paying the overinflated prices some owners are currently asking for what will largely be a rusty old tratter under that shiny paintwork. Good luck to them, but it won't be my hard earned pennies they are having.
Got a perfectly usable (for my needs) F2 worth diddly squat in comparison which I can take me and the missus anywhere I need to go in far more comfort. :D
 
On FB Marketplace last week, there was a 110 Td5, which had not been MOT’d for five years or so. It was about 60 miles from me & I called the bloke within 12 hours of it appearing. It was at £8.5K. I suggested £8K & I’d come see it within the hour.
It was sold to a bloke from far far away for £9K before I could get chance to see it.
There’s more to this story, but suffice it to say, money talks.
 
And it's not just Defender pricing...it's all generic classic car type pricing. It's true there's much liquidity about, but some of the prices being asked/sold for are crazy. Last month's Historics auction saw top prices being paid including two Series over £22k, £36.4k for a 3.0 Capri and £63.8k for a MKI Escort https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/auctions/2021-04-17/cars/?Make=&q=

This week we see what could be the world's most expensive TR6...it's up for an eye watering £85k :eek: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203459755373?hash=item2f5f257d6d:g:NrkAAOSwxoNgYkXD

But by far the biggest shocker is the £19k paid for a Triumph Spitfire. On the best of days they're a pile of pooh, on a normal day they're a rusting pile of hairdresser's pooh. Worse, I know this car and the shut lines are abominable o_O https://www.historics.co.uk/buying/...ars/ref-140-1966-triumph-spitfire-4-mk-ii-wp/
 
Good grief

Money to burn. Spitfires should have good shut lines, unlike Herald/Vitesse where they weren't great from new.

lts very difficult to get a Herald or Vitesse shut lines right, and few bother.

Spitfires are better as the body is more structural, with sills to give strength, although there is still a separate chassis.
Because of this the door fit should be good as should the boot, and with a bit of care, the bonnet.

l will say though, that the MK3 Spitfire is the best one, with the MK2 close behind, it was much prettier than the later version.
l can't remember if the MK2 had a folding hood, the MK1 certainly doesn't, you have to take it apart and stow it.

A good one is far from a pile of poo. The thing is, getting a good one.
 
My mate just recently bought a ‘83 One Ten. £7500, ‘kin hell! It’s lovely looking, brown with County decals, I don’t think it’s a genuine County though, I don’t have the heart to tell him!
i bought my ‘87 One Ten about 8 years ago, £2800, I’ve been offered £6500 for it, but I’m not interested in selling.
Mental prices really.
 
The newest TD5's are now 16 years old and many of them are past their best.
It's easy to make one look nice, l bought a lovely looking 2005 TD5 XS SW for £14,000 and ended up spending £7,000 to get it sorted.

Anything over fifteen years old may well be on the way to needing a new chassis, or at least a crossmember.

l think some buyers are going to get a rude awakening when they take their "restored" £15,000 Defender for an MOT
 
The newest TD5's are now 16 years old and many of them are past their best.
It's easy to make one look nice, l bought a lovely looking 2005 TD5 XS SW for £14,000 and ended up spending £7,000 to get it sorted.

Anything over fifteen years old may well be on the way to needing a new chassis, or at least a crossmember.

l think some buyers are going to get a rude awakening when they take their "restored" £15,000 Defender for an MOT

I did the same, crossmembers are service items aren’t they? Lol. I’ve seen td5s for over 20. Minters but still. Weird to see a newer disco sat next to a td5 defender on forecourt and the defender price is higher.
 
l had to sell the 90 during lockdown, my local LR specialist gave me £17,000 for it and sold it for £20,500.
lt was a good one by the time l had finished with it, l fitted brand new Puma front seats, a new aircon condenser, new battery, starter, alternator, injector harness, a new back door, had the roof and back re sprayed, changed the front bumper, fitted a new clutch and DMF, new front brake calipers, discs and pads, new rear discs and pads, two new driveshafts and four drive members, etc

l wouldn't do it again, l've done up enough Defenders

l've kept my 110
But we bought a brand new Jimny, it's like a Defender except smaller, and being brand new it needs nothing doing.
 
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Yes the 110 is staying !

Just come back from Scotland in it, 400 miles in seven hours, glad l fitted cruise control and extra soundproofing.
 
Yes the 110 is staying !

Just come back from Scotland in it, 400 miles in seven hours, glad l fitted cruise control and extra soundproofing.

How far did you go on that sound proofing in the end? I haven't fitted that seal yet (or the box of landy parts!) but did do the roof with a pack of silent coat and carpeted the headlining which made noticeable difference.
I need to tighten up the doors a bit - maybe new hinges too.
 
lt's not got that much really.
lt's got the factory carpet and underlay. l've sealed trailing edge of the bonnet and fitted
under bonnet soundproofing.
l've fitted sound deadening mat under the seats in the front and second row.
lt's got heavy LR rubber mats (the one in the second row makes a noticeable difference)
l made sure the foam soundproof block is in place around the gear levers.
Being a SW it's got full headlining

But that's about it. This does seem
to be a quiet one, my missus's 90 XS SW was definitely louder at speed.
 
Good grief

Money to burn. Spitfires should have good shut lines, unlike Herald/Vitesse where they weren't great from new.

lts very difficult to get a Herald or Vitesse shut lines right, and few bother.

Spitfires are better as the body is more structural, with sills to give strength, although there is still a separate chassis.
Because of this the door fit should be good as should the boot, and with a bit of care, the bonnet.

l will say though, that the MK3 Spitfire is the best one, with the MK2 close behind, it was much prettier than the later version.
l can't remember if the MK2 had a folding hood, the MK1 certainly doesn't, you have to take it apart and stow it.

A good one is far from a pile of poo. The thing is, getting a good one.

wish I’d kept my MK 3 spitty. Bought for £65 from local scrap yard. Did it up over a couple of years. Got stopped by police on M56. Body was maroon but had boot lid in primer, one blue door & a yellow bonnet. No hood & only one seat (as no passenger seat belt. They couldn’t believe it had an MOT but after 30 minutes going round the car they had to let me go!

Eventually sold it for £400 when a new baby necessitated a more practical car
 
The MK3 was the best version as it still had the central dash and earlier styling, plus there was a retractable hood and larger engine.
l had a 1500. lt was a good one and had overdrive, but it's long gone, l sold it in 1987 when l went into business, and replaced it with a Fiat Panda.
 
lt's not got that much really.
lt's got the factory carpet and underlay. l've sealed trailing edge of the bonnet and fitted
under bonnet soundproofing.
l've fitted sound deadening mat under the seats in the front and second row.
lt's got heavy LR rubber mats (the one in the second row makes a noticeable difference)
l made sure the foam soundproof block is in place around the gear levers.
Being a SW it's got full headlining

But that's about it. This does seem
to be a quiet one, my missus's 90 XS SW was definitely louder at speed.
Was the bonnet sound deadening easy to fit? I have just ordered some and was wondering how easy it was to take the bonnet off? (Sorry, just bought my forst Defender a month ago so a bit new)
And how is is the headlining to do? I have already done the rear end and the wheel arch covers
 
You don't need to take the bonnet off, the sound deadening pieces for TD5 are self adhesive and you can stick them on with the bonnet up.

l haven't done the headlining on mine, l think the only way to make mine any quieter on the motorway now would be to reduce engine RPM, either by fitting a Discovery transfer box or an overdrive.
 
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